On Jul 19, 10:55*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 7/19/12 9:21 AM, Eisboch wrote:











"iBoaterer" *wrote in message
...

It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that *I* have
paid into for 30 years?

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I don't know where you live or what state you reside in *but in
in all states that I am aware of, including mine, *your
employer pays into a fund that provides unemployment
benefits. * You don't pay it.

States have different structures to their programs, *i.e. some
have a "positive/negative" *balance program that determines
how much the employers pay. *This benefits companies that
have a lower turnover of employees or fewer unemployment
claims while penalizing those who have more.

Ahh, precisely. It's an employer paid tax, and it is a state and federal
program.

Hmmmm.up here it's shared between the employer and employee.

"X ` Man" wrote in message
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On 7/19/12 9:21 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that *I*
have
paid into for 30 years?

-------------------------------------------------------

I don't know where you live or what state you reside in but in
in all states that I am aware of, including mine, your
employer pays into a fund that provides unemployment
benefits. You don't pay it.

States have different structures to their programs, i.e. some
have a "positive/negative" balance program that determines
how much the employers pay. This benefits companies that
have a lower turnover of employees or fewer unemployment
claims while penalizing those who have more.



Ahh, precisely. It's an employer paid tax, and it is a state and
federal
program.

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Yes. It is managed by the state you live and work in. Benefits
are from a fund paid into via a unemployment tax on the employer,
subsidized by state and federal funds paid by taxpayers.

Overall, (and as you stated) , the tax paid by the employer isn't a
major
cost unless they have a high level of claims by former employees.

It whacks taxpayers hard (or more accurately the required state
and federal subsidies) when a company goes belly-up and all or
most of the employees file claims. This is what we have been
witnessing in the past several years, exasperated by the need
to extend benefits far beyond the time frame that the program
was designed to handle.

In article ,
says...

On 7/19/2012 7:24 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

Type in "how do I qualify...
and your search engine will fill in with what Americans
are searching for, mostly how to get something from the taxpayers.

41% of all births are paid for by taxpayer money.

1 in 3 live in a household that receives food stamps, subsidized
housing, cash welfare or medicaid.


http://www.staged.com/video?v=Klmb

Mikek

It's bad to want to qualify as head of household or for a Pell grant?


So, you did the "how do I qualify" search,
kinda discouraging isn't it.
Mikek

You failed to answer my question.

In article ,
says...

On 7/19/2012 7:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/18/2012 3:12 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/18/12 4:01 PM, amdx wrote:
Type in "how do I qualify...
and your search engine will fill in with what Americans
are searching for, mostly how to get something from the taxpayers.

41% of all births are paid for by taxpayer money.

1 in 3 live in a household that receives food stamps, subsidized
housing, cash welfare or medicaid.


http://www.staged.com/video?v=Klmb

Mikek


Google Query: How do I qualify to be an ignorant, ill-informed,
right-wing asshole...

Response: See amdx


You're operating at the intellectual level of JustHate, Meyer, Bilious
Bill, fella. I'm sure they will give you reach-arounds.

I showed you something you didn't want to see,
so rather than refute the numbers, you attack me.
Oh, I get it, there is no refuting the numbers.
Attack the messenger.
I don't mind a good argument, I might learn something,
but all you do is name call. That's useless.
Mikek

It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that *I* have
paid into for 30 years?


I don't know, are you unemployed?
It might be better to want to qualify for a job.
Mikek

I'm not, but there are many unemployed people out there. If you haven't
heard, the economy is in pretty bad shape. But, you failed to answer my
question, again.

In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...


It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that *I*
have
paid into for 30 years?

-------------------------------------------------------

I don't know where you live or what state you reside in but in
in all states that I am aware of, including mine, your
employer pays into a fund that provides unemployment
benefits. You don't pay it.

States have different structures to their programs, i.e. some
have a "positive/negative" balance program that determines
how much the employers pay. This benefits companies that
have a lower turnover of employees or fewer unemployment
claims while penalizing those who have more.

Yes, indeed the employer pays into that fund. What if I AM the employer?
Also, if the employer didn't have to pay into that fund, that money
would go to the employee.

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/19/12 8:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/18/2012 3:12 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/18/12 4:01 PM, amdx wrote:
Type in "how do I qualify...
and your search engine will fill in with what Americans
are searching for, mostly how to get something from the taxpayers.

41% of all births are paid for by taxpayer money.

1 in 3 live in a household that receives food stamps, subsidized
housing, cash welfare or medicaid.


http://www.staged.com/video?v=Klmb

Mikek


Google Query: How do I qualify to be an ignorant, ill-informed,
right-wing asshole...

Response: See amdx


You're operating at the intellectual level of JustHate, Meyer, Bilious
Bill, fella. I'm sure they will give you reach-arounds.

I showed you something you didn't want to see,
so rather than refute the numbers, you attack me.
Oh, I get it, there is no refuting the numbers.
Attack the messenger.
I don't mind a good argument, I might learn something,
but all you do is name call. That's useless.
Mikek

It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that *I* have
paid into for 30 years?



If you are an employee, unemployment insurance is paid for by your
employer through state and federal payroll taxes. Now the payroll taxes
your employer pays probably are figured into the compensation you
receive, but you are not likely be paying directly for your own
unemployment insurance. When I had employees, I paid the tax on their
behalf, and while I don't recall the exact number, it wasn't a large
amount per person.

Well, if you are the sole employee, the monies that you would have to
pay would go to you if you didn't have to pay them. Also, if you were an
employee, the money that the employer has to pay in would go to the
employees instead.

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 7/19/12 8:25 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,

says...

On 7/18/2012 3:12 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/18/12 4:01 PM, amdx wrote:
Type in "how do I qualify...
and your search engine will fill in with what Americans
are searching for, mostly how to get something from the
taxpayers.

41% of all births are paid for by taxpayer money.

1 in 3 live in a household that receives food stamps,
subsidized
housing, cash welfare or medicaid.


http://www.staged.com/video?v=Klmb

Mikek


Google Query: How do I qualify to be an ignorant, ill-informed,
right-wing asshole...

Response: See amdx


You're operating at the intellectual level of JustHate, Meyer,
Bilious
Bill, fella. I'm sure they will give you reach-arounds.

I showed you something you didn't want to see,
so rather than refute the numbers, you attack me.
Oh, I get it, there is no refuting the numbers.
Attack the messenger.
I don't mind a good argument, I might learn something,
but all you do is name call. That's useless.
Mikek

It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that
*I* have
paid into for 30 years?



If you are an employee, unemployment insurance is paid for by your
employer through state and federal payroll taxes. Now the payroll
taxes
your employer pays probably are figured into the compensation you
receive, but you are not likely be paying directly for your own
unemployment insurance. When I had employees, I paid the tax on
their
behalf, and while I don't recall the exact number, it wasn't a large
amount per person.

Well, if you are the sole employee, the monies that you would have to
pay would go to you if you didn't have to pay them. Also, if you were
an
employee, the money that the employer has to pay in would go to the
employees instead.
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Sorry , but that's the standard answer of an employee, not an
employer.

First of all, as Harry and I have stated, the cost to the employer
isn't
gigantic, and, in my experience as a company owner with 70 employees
the cost of unemployment insurance per employee wasn't really even
considered in the individual's compensation. As an employer, you
have
some control on the unemployment taxes you pay. If you carefully
consider the need to expand, based on your company's business level,
the number of unemployment claims are minimal and the taxes you
pay reflect that. If you run a haphazard organization, hiring and
letting
people go on a regular basis, you are going to pay more.

It's also the reason that some unemployment claims are challenged and
unemployment benefits may *not* be approved. If an employee is
fired or let go for a serious reason, they *may* not collect, nor
should they.

Some may jump on me for this but in my experience usually the
employee who is let go for cause ... meaning unreliable, unqualified,
disruptive or other reason unique to the individual is usually given
the benefit of the doubt and is allowed to collect without objection.

The only person I ever replied in the negative to the state's notice
of a fired employee's application for benefits was a case where he
was caught molesting a female employee. He didn't get benefits
and he was damn lucky the female didn't file charges against him.

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 7/18/2012 3:12 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/18/12 4:01 PM, amdx wrote:
Type in "how do I qualify...
and your search engine will fill in with what Americans
are searching for, mostly how to get something from the taxpayers.

41% of all births are paid for by taxpayer money.

1 in 3 live in a household that receives food stamps, subsidized
housing, cash welfare or medicaid.


http://www.staged.com/video?v=Klmb

Mikek


Google Query: How do I qualify to be an ignorant, ill-informed,
right-wing asshole...

Response: See amdx


You're operating at the intellectual level of JustHate, Meyer, Bilious
Bill, fella. I'm sure they will give you reach-arounds.

I showed you something you didn't want to see,
so rather than refute the numbers, you attack me.
Oh, I get it, there is no refuting the numbers.
Attack the messenger.
I don't mind a good argument, I might learn something,
but all you do is name call. That's useless.
Mikek

It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that *I* have
paid into for 30 years?


==========
Do not know what state you are in, but if like California, the employer pays
the unemployment taxes. And depending on his record they can be higher or
lower than others. In the end it is the employee who actually pays the tax,
just like any other employer tax, as the employer figures out what it costs
to employ someone. And the salary is figured with all the other costs.
When I owned a company, we figured that we paid 25% of the employee's wages
to government entities, not including any health insurance. That was SS,
FUTA, disability insurance, etc. All those taxes and employee wages are
costs of doing business. Just like rent, utilities, vehicle costs ++++

On Jul 19, 9:21*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"iBoaterer" *wrote in message

...

It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that *I*
have
paid into for 30 years?

-------------------------------------------------------

I don't know where you live or what state you reside in *but in
in all states that I am aware of, including mine, *your
employer pays into a fund that provides unemployment
benefits. * You don't pay it.

States have different structures to their programs, *i.e. some
have a "positive/negative" *balance program that determines
how much the employers pay. *This benefits companies that
have a lower turnover of employees or fewer unemployment
claims while penalizing those who have more.

You don't pay it.

As far as Canada is concerned, it comes DIRECTLY off our paycheck.

*e#c wrote:
On Jul 19, 9:21 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

It's bad to want to qualify for the unemployment insurance that *I*
have
paid into for 30 years?

-------------------------------------------------------

I don't know where you live or what state you reside in but in
in all states that I am aware of, including mine, your
employer pays into a fund that provides unemployment
benefits. You don't pay it.

States have different structures to their programs, i.e. some
have a "positive/negative" balance program that determines
how much the employers pay. This benefits companies that
have a lower turnover of employees or fewer unemployment
claims while penalizing those who have more.
You don't pay it.

As far as Canada is concerned, it comes DIRECTLY off our paycheck.
Off or out of? Either way, this is OT and marked as serious spam - not
regular spam - serious!!!