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On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
news
Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh?


Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism

Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than
liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario
suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.

The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who
score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop
prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized
tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic
of hot debate among psychologists.

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the
study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious
cycle:

*People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative
ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,*
he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies?
Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it
easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately,
many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those
sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an
email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler
solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive
capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."


---------------------------------------------------------

John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein
who had an IQ of 160.
Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128.
Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137
George W. Bush has an IQ of 125
Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141.

A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing
to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth.
It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies
you as a person.



The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation
between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more
likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative
politics
in adulthood."

--------------------------------------------

I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I
was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way
because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of
all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to
productive use.

===========================
As a girl told me when I was stationed in Biloxi in 1965. We have white
trash with little skills. But no one wants to be at the bottom of the totem
pole, so they use racism to raise their esteem in their own eyes. One of
the the major problems with racism in the south.

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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
om...

On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
news
Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the
answer, eh?


Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism

Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than
liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario
suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.

The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people
who
score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop
prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by
standardized
tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a
topic
of hot debate among psychologists.

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and
the
study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a
vicious
cycle:

*People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative
ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn,
prejudice,*
he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative
ideologies?
Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it
easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said.
"Unfortunately,
many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those
sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in
an
email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler
solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less
cognitive
capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."


---------------------------------------------------------

John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no
Einstein
who had an IQ of 160.
Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128.
Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137
George W. Bush has an IQ of 125
Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141.

A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is
nothing
to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth.
It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and
classifies
you as a person.



The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation
between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more
likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative
politics
in adulthood."

--------------------------------------------

I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I
was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way
because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of
all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to
productive use.

It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack
and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and
simple answers.

Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable
wrestling with complex issues.

===============================
Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from
the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism
of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as
if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism.

On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote:

===============================
Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just
from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the
reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95%
Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism.


As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are
permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry.

--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 14:01:33 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



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On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
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On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
news
Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the
answer, eh?


Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism,
Conservatism

Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than
liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario
suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.

The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people
who
score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop
prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by
standardized
tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a
topic
of hot debate among psychologists.

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and
the
study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a
vicious
cycle:

*People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative
ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn,
prejudice,*
he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative
ideologies?
Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it
easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said.
"Unfortunately,
many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed
those
sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in
an
email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler
solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less
cognitive
capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."


---------------------------------------------------------

John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no
Einstein
who had an IQ of 160.
Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128.
Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137
George W. Bush has an IQ of 125
Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141.

A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is
nothing
to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth.
It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and
classifies
you as a person.



The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation
between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more
likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative
politics
in adulthood."

--------------------------------------------

I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited.
I
was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way
because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of
all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to
productive use.

It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack
and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and
simple answers.

Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable
wrestling with complex issues.

----------------------------------------------------

I've seen people with barely average IQ's accomplish some great
things.
They just work harder at it.

Without a doubt, and plenty of people with above average IQs squander
the gift. But the vast majority of those on the IQ bell curve remain
true to their ability to comprehend, store information and synthesize
ideas and plans.

Those on the lower end of the curse are trapped by an inability to
deal well with complexity and therefore gravitate towards simple
answers as a way to gain comfort and peace.

Will Rogers had it right when he said "If stupidity got us into this
mess, why can't it get us out."

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"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
news
Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the answer, eh?


Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism

Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than
liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario
suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.

The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who
score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop
prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized
tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic
of hot debate among psychologists.

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the
study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious
cycle:

*People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative
ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice,*
he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies?
Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it
easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately,
many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those
sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an
email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler
solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive
capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."


---------------------------------------------------------

John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no Einstein
who had an IQ of 160.
Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128.
Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137
George W. Bush has an IQ of 125
Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141.

A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is nothing
to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth.
It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and classifies
you as a person.



The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation
between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more
likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative
politics
in adulthood."

--------------------------------------------

I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I
was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way
because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of
all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to
productive use.

===========================
As a girl told me when I was stationed in Biloxi in 1965. We have white
trash with little skills. But no one wants to be at the bottom of the totem
pole, so they use racism to raise their esteem in their own eyes. One of
the the major problems with racism in the south.

Racism isn't just a southern thing. Anybody who thinks that is a fool.

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:04:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote:

===============================
Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just
from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the
reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95%
Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism.


As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are
permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry.

Gotta go for the personal attack, huh Harry?

WATOABH!

On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message ...

On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 12:25:57 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



"X ` Man" wrote in message
news:ZqednT4424qqVoLNnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@earthlink. com...

On 8/6/12 8:43 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X ` Man" wrote in message
news
Perhaps such a study wasn't needed, since we already knew the
answer, eh?


Intelligence Study Links Low I.Q. To Prejudice, Racism, Conservatism

Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than
liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario
suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.

The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people
who
score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop
prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by
standardized
tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a
topic
of hot debate among psychologists.

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and
the
study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a
vicious
cycle:

*People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative
ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn,
prejudice,*
he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative
ideologies?
Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it
easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said.
"Unfortunately,
many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those
sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in
an
email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler
solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less
cognitive
capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."


---------------------------------------------------------

John F. Kennedy had an IQ of 117 .... above average, but no
Einstein
who had an IQ of 160.
Abraham Lincoln had an estimated IQ of 128.
Bill Clinton has an IQ of 137
George W. Bush has an IQ of 125
Adolph Hitler had an IQ of 141.

A high IQ has nothing to do with what a person is. A high IQ is
nothing
to be particularly proud or boastful about. It' a gift at birth.
It's what you do with the IQ that you have that qualifies and
classifies
you as a person.



The study wasn't about "high" or "low" IQ tests but a correlation
between "people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more
likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative
politics
in adulthood."

--------------------------------------------

I understand that. I was not commenting on the study you cited. I
was commenting on those who think they are superior in some way
because they were gifted with a higher than average IQ. First of
all, they didn't earn it and second of all not all put it to
productive use.

It's no wonder the conservative movement can appeal to the six-pack
and fundy communities, who gravitate towards simple lifestyles and
simple answers.

Bumper sticker logic brings comfort to those who are uncomfortable
wrestling with complex issues.

===============================
Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just from
the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the reverse racism
of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95% Democrat it seems as
if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism.

"Seems as if...."

I'm sure you've got plenty of stats to support your assertion. Not.

Given the institutional racism that's existed in this country for
hundreds of years, you think that would be trumped by people's
tendency toward conservatism, assuming a low IQ?

On 8/6/12 4:34 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:04:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote:

===============================
Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just
from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the
reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95%
Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism.


As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are
permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry.

Gotta go for the personal attack, huh Harry?

WATOABH!



Nope. Reality. If you supported Sarah Palin, you are permanently
disqualified from fact-based discussions about current events.



--
I'm a liberal because the militant fundamentalist ignorant
science-denying religious xenophobic corporate oligarchy of modern
Republican conservatism just doesn't work for me or my country.

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 16:47:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 8/6/12 4:34 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:04:38 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 8/6/12 2:29 PM, Califbill wrote:

===============================
Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans. Just
from the number of Dems register vs. Repubs. And you look at the
reverse racism of cities like Detroit and Chicago who are probably 95%
Democrat it seems as if low IQ is not a requirement for right wing racism.


As someone who supported Crazy Zell Miller, Bilious Bill, you are
permanently disqualified from discussions about intellect. Sorry.

Gotta go for the personal attack, huh Harry?

WATOABH!



Nope. Reality. If you supported Sarah Palin, you are permanently
disqualified from fact-based discussions about current events.

Agreed.

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 15:18:17 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 6 Aug 2012 11:29:03 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

Seems as if there are a lot more dumb Democrats than Republicans.

They do seem to have more trouble navigating a complex ballot, finding
their polling place and having a good enough job to have an ID with a
picture on it.

You talking about the folks who've experience 200 years of
institutionalized racism who are easily identified as different from
white?