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On 9/16/2012 3:46 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:23:20 -0400, JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Here is another one I was thinking about.... http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/d...229&fullsize=1 http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/d...228&fullsize=1 http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/d...227&fullsize=1 http://trip-reports.com/coppermine/d...230&fullsize=1 Could be built in about 450 pounds for a 50 horse engine... Protected water, sport fisher. === Looks a bit like a Whaler. Can you build that shape with wood panels? Absolutely, and absolutely... My intent was to build a boat that would mimic the handling characteristics of a Whaler, with panels... It would be a very simple boat to build. I was going to build it around the bulkheads, so it would be built "self jigging"... |
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JustWait wrote:
On 9/15/2012 9:33 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Don't know why my reader is trying to send to the posters, but here is my version of a cartopper... Here is my version... http://smallboats.com/images/current...ter_05_400.jpg Weighs about 80 pounds, ten feet long. 80#? That would work. Can it handle a 5hp OB or just an electric? It is ideal for a 2-3 horse which will get it to hull speed. I have put as much as an 8 horse on it but you can't run it more than 1/2 throttle and it sits in deep. The boat was designed to be rowed so the transom is very narrow. If you want to put a five horse on it, you should probably go to a "pickup truck" boat like this: http://smallboats.com/images/stanleysie6_500.jpg ... at 12 feet with higher sides, this boat could be made to come in a bit over 100 pounds but but a new builder might not be able to get it quite there. It's wider than the ten foot Calico Hunter, but fits in the bed of a standard pickup with the tailgate down and only hangs over a bit. Back to the Calico Hunter though. http://www.smallboats.com/images/jimandrandy_250.jpg With a three horse and gear it will still take a considerable load. The picture below is with two friends of mine, the "little fellow" in the bow told me he was 225 lbs, the guy with the oars wouldn't say nuthin':) If you look at the two boats the most distinct difference is the transom. The Calico Hunter is made for a small motor, or rowing and carries 40 yards with one sweep of the oars... The Larger Skiff has the wider transom more designed for primarily motor... I have a utility trailer like that. Thanks! |
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On 9/17/2012 8:26 PM, Earl wrote:
JustWait wrote: On 9/15/2012 9:33 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Don't know why my reader is trying to send to the posters, but here is my version of a cartopper... Here is my version... http://smallboats.com/images/current...ter_05_400.jpg Weighs about 80 pounds, ten feet long. 80#? That would work. Can it handle a 5hp OB or just an electric? It is ideal for a 2-3 horse which will get it to hull speed. I have put as much as an 8 horse on it but you can't run it more than 1/2 throttle and it sits in deep. The boat was designed to be rowed so the transom is very narrow. If you want to put a five horse on it, you should probably go to a "pickup truck" boat like this: http://smallboats.com/images/stanleysie6_500.jpg ... at 12 feet with higher sides, this boat could be made to come in a bit over 100 pounds but but a new builder might not be able to get it quite there. It's wider than the ten foot Calico Hunter, but fits in the bed of a standard pickup with the tailgate down and only hangs over a bit. Back to the Calico Hunter though. http://www.smallboats.com/images/jimandrandy_250.jpg With a three horse and gear it will still take a considerable load. The picture below is with two friends of mine, the "little fellow" in the bow told me he was 225 lbs, the guy with the oars wouldn't say nuthin':) If you look at the two boats the most distinct difference is the transom. The Calico Hunter is made for a small motor, or rowing and carries 40 yards with one sweep of the oars... The Larger Skiff has the wider transom more designed for primarily motor... I have a utility trailer like that. Thanks! Let me know if you want to build the thing.. I can give you the numbers and the shapes of the panels, which pretty much makes the boat come together on it's own... Can be either built with chines or just stitch and tape... |
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JustWait wrote:
On 9/17/2012 8:26 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/15/2012 9:33 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Don't know why my reader is trying to send to the posters, but here is my version of a cartopper... Here is my version... http://smallboats.com/images/current...ter_05_400.jpg Weighs about 80 pounds, ten feet long. 80#? That would work. Can it handle a 5hp OB or just an electric? It is ideal for a 2-3 horse which will get it to hull speed. I have put as much as an 8 horse on it but you can't run it more than 1/2 throttle and it sits in deep. The boat was designed to be rowed so the transom is very narrow. If you want to put a five horse on it, you should probably go to a "pickup truck" boat like this: http://smallboats.com/images/stanleysie6_500.jpg ... at 12 feet with higher sides, this boat could be made to come in a bit over 100 pounds but but a new builder might not be able to get it quite there. It's wider than the ten foot Calico Hunter, but fits in the bed of a standard pickup with the tailgate down and only hangs over a bit. Back to the Calico Hunter though. http://www.smallboats.com/images/jimandrandy_250.jpg With a three horse and gear it will still take a considerable load. The picture below is with two friends of mine, the "little fellow" in the bow told me he was 225 lbs, the guy with the oars wouldn't say nuthin':) If you look at the two boats the most distinct difference is the transom. The Calico Hunter is made for a small motor, or rowing and carries 40 yards with one sweep of the oars... The Larger Skiff has the wider transom more designed for primarily motor... I have a utility trailer like that. Thanks! Let me know if you want to build the thing.. I can give you the numbers and the shapes of the panels, which pretty much makes the boat come together on it's own... Can be either built with chines or just stitch and tape... I would be all over that if I had the time and space to do the work! |
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On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:09:52 PM UTC-3, Earl wrote:
JustWait wrote: On 9/17/2012 8:26 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/15/2012 9:33 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Don't know why my reader is trying to send to the posters, but here is my version of a cartopper... Here is my version... http://smallboats.com/images/current...ter_05_400.jpg Weighs about 80 pounds, ten feet long. 80#? That would work. Can it handle a 5hp OB or just an electric? It is ideal for a 2-3 horse which will get it to hull speed. I have put as much as an 8 horse on it but you can't run it more than 1/2 throttle and it sits in deep. The boat was designed to be rowed so the transom is very narrow. If you want to put a five horse on it, you should probably go to a "pickup truck" boat like this: http://smallboats.com/images/stanleysie6_500.jpg ... at 12 feet with higher sides, this boat could be made to come in a bit over 100 pounds but but a new builder might not be able to get it quite there. It's wider than the ten foot Calico Hunter, but fits in the bed of a standard pickup with the tailgate down and only hangs over a bit. Back to the Calico Hunter though. http://www.smallboats.com/images/jimandrandy_250.jpg With a three horse and gear it will still take a considerable load. The picture below is with two friends of mine, the "little fellow" in the bow told me he was 225 lbs, the guy with the oars wouldn't say nuthin':) If you look at the two boats the most distinct difference is the transom. The Calico Hunter is made for a small motor, or rowing and carries 40 yards with one sweep of the oars... The Larger Skiff has the wider transom more designed for primarily motor... I have a utility trailer like that. Thanks! Let me know if you want to build the thing.. I can give you the numbers and the shapes of the panels, which pretty much makes the boat come together on it's own... Can be either built with chines or just stitch and tape... I would be all over that if I had the time and space to do the work! The contractor supply business seems slow these days. Just build the boat on your front counter. |
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On 9/18/2012 8:09 PM, Earl wrote:
JustWait wrote: On 9/17/2012 8:26 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/15/2012 9:33 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Don't know why my reader is trying to send to the posters, but here is my version of a cartopper... Here is my version... http://smallboats.com/images/current...ter_05_400.jpg Weighs about 80 pounds, ten feet long. 80#? That would work. Can it handle a 5hp OB or just an electric? It is ideal for a 2-3 horse which will get it to hull speed. I have put as much as an 8 horse on it but you can't run it more than 1/2 throttle and it sits in deep. The boat was designed to be rowed so the transom is very narrow. If you want to put a five horse on it, you should probably go to a "pickup truck" boat like this: http://smallboats.com/images/stanleysie6_500.jpg ... at 12 feet with higher sides, this boat could be made to come in a bit over 100 pounds but but a new builder might not be able to get it quite there. It's wider than the ten foot Calico Hunter, but fits in the bed of a standard pickup with the tailgate down and only hangs over a bit. Back to the Calico Hunter though. http://www.smallboats.com/images/jimandrandy_250.jpg With a three horse and gear it will still take a considerable load. The picture below is with two friends of mine, the "little fellow" in the bow told me he was 225 lbs, the guy with the oars wouldn't say nuthin':) If you look at the two boats the most distinct difference is the transom. The Calico Hunter is made for a small motor, or rowing and carries 40 yards with one sweep of the oars... The Larger Skiff has the wider transom more designed for primarily motor... I have a utility trailer like that. Thanks! Let me know if you want to build the thing.. I can give you the numbers and the shapes of the panels, which pretty much makes the boat come together on it's own... Can be either built with chines or just stitch and tape... I would be all over that if I had the time and space to do the work! Well, you can do it outside, under a tarp, in about 30 man hours, in a 20 by 20 foot space... Probably 300 dollars for materials in this market. |
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JustWait wrote:
On 9/18/2012 8:09 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/17/2012 8:26 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/15/2012 9:33 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Don't know why my reader is trying to send to the posters, but here is my version of a cartopper... Here is my version... http://smallboats.com/images/current...ter_05_400.jpg Weighs about 80 pounds, ten feet long. 80#? That would work. Can it handle a 5hp OB or just an electric? It is ideal for a 2-3 horse which will get it to hull speed. I have put as much as an 8 horse on it but you can't run it more than 1/2 throttle and it sits in deep. The boat was designed to be rowed so the transom is very narrow. If you want to put a five horse on it, you should probably go to a "pickup truck" boat like this: http://smallboats.com/images/stanleysie6_500.jpg ... at 12 feet with higher sides, this boat could be made to come in a bit over 100 pounds but but a new builder might not be able to get it quite there. It's wider than the ten foot Calico Hunter, but fits in the bed of a standard pickup with the tailgate down and only hangs over a bit. Back to the Calico Hunter though. http://www.smallboats.com/images/jimandrandy_250.jpg With a three horse and gear it will still take a considerable load. The picture below is with two friends of mine, the "little fellow" in the bow told me he was 225 lbs, the guy with the oars wouldn't say nuthin':) If you look at the two boats the most distinct difference is the transom. The Calico Hunter is made for a small motor, or rowing and carries 40 yards with one sweep of the oars... The Larger Skiff has the wider transom more designed for primarily motor... I have a utility trailer like that. Thanks! Let me know if you want to build the thing.. I can give you the numbers and the shapes of the panels, which pretty much makes the boat come together on it's own... Can be either built with chines or just stitch and tape... I would be all over that if I had the time and space to do the work! Well, you can do it outside, under a tarp, in about 30 man hours, in a 20 by 20 foot space... Probably 300 dollars for materials in this market. I have basic tools but I don't own two dozen pipe clamps (or even one!) or any fancy woodworking tools. What is needed for a project like this? 80#? That seems light for what I would image to be a lot of material. |
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On 9/19/2012 7:57 PM, Earl wrote:
JustWait wrote: On 9/18/2012 8:09 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/17/2012 8:26 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/15/2012 9:33 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Don't know why my reader is trying to send to the posters, but here is my version of a cartopper... Here is my version... http://smallboats.com/images/current...ter_05_400.jpg Weighs about 80 pounds, ten feet long. 80#? That would work. Can it handle a 5hp OB or just an electric? It is ideal for a 2-3 horse which will get it to hull speed. I have put as much as an 8 horse on it but you can't run it more than 1/2 throttle and it sits in deep. The boat was designed to be rowed so the transom is very narrow. If you want to put a five horse on it, you should probably go to a "pickup truck" boat like this: http://smallboats.com/images/stanleysie6_500.jpg ... at 12 feet with higher sides, this boat could be made to come in a bit over 100 pounds but but a new builder might not be able to get it quite there. It's wider than the ten foot Calico Hunter, but fits in the bed of a standard pickup with the tailgate down and only hangs over a bit. Back to the Calico Hunter though. http://www.smallboats.com/images/jimandrandy_250.jpg With a three horse and gear it will still take a considerable load. The picture below is with two friends of mine, the "little fellow" in the bow told me he was 225 lbs, the guy with the oars wouldn't say nuthin':) If you look at the two boats the most distinct difference is the transom. The Calico Hunter is made for a small motor, or rowing and carries 40 yards with one sweep of the oars... The Larger Skiff has the wider transom more designed for primarily motor... I have a utility trailer like that. Thanks! Let me know if you want to build the thing.. I can give you the numbers and the shapes of the panels, which pretty much makes the boat come together on it's own... Can be either built with chines or just stitch and tape... I would be all over that if I had the time and space to do the work! Well, you can do it outside, under a tarp, in about 30 man hours, in a 20 by 20 foot space... Probably 300 dollars for materials in this market. I have basic tools but I don't own two dozen pipe clamps (or even one!) or any fancy woodworking tools. What is needed for a project like this? 80#? That seems light for what I would image to be a lot of material. You need a skilsaw, screwdrivers, drill, some files or a good belt sander, no "special" tools are needed at all. the only issue is the pipe clamps, but that can be avoided with thin strips laminated one at at time on the gunnels. The 80 pound is for the small rowboat, the trailer boat is more like 125-130... |
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says... On Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:09:52 PM UTC-3, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/17/2012 8:26 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/15/2012 9:33 PM, Earl wrote: JustWait wrote: On 9/14/2012 10:00 AM, JustWait wrote: So, it's been over ten years since we could have a nice discussion about "crappy little boats"... so... If you could build one small boat in your back yard, what would it be? What material, and where would you use it, why, etc.....??? Scotty, from Rottedboats.com:) Don't know why my reader is trying to send to the posters, but here is my version of a cartopper... Here is my version... http://smallboats.com/images/current...ter_05_400.jpg Weighs about 80 pounds, ten feet long. 80#? That would work. Can it handle a 5hp OB or just an electric? It is ideal for a 2-3 horse which will get it to hull speed. I have put as much as an 8 horse on it but you can't run it more than 1/2 throttle and it sits in deep. The boat was designed to be rowed so the transom is very narrow. If you want to put a five horse on it, you should probably go to a "pickup truck" boat like this: http://smallboats.com/images/stanleysie6_500.jpg ... at 12 feet with higher sides, this boat could be made to come in a bit over 100 pounds but but a new builder might not be able to get it quite there. It's wider than the ten foot Calico Hunter, but fits in the bed of a standard pickup with the tailgate down and only hangs over a bit. Back to the Calico Hunter though. http://www.smallboats.com/images/jimandrandy_250.jpg With a three horse and gear it will still take a considerable load. The picture below is with two friends of mine, the "little fellow" in the bow told me he was 225 lbs, the guy with the oars wouldn't say nuthin':) If you look at the two boats the most distinct difference is the transom. The Calico Hunter is made for a small motor, or rowing and carries 40 yards with one sweep of the oars... The Larger Skiff has the wider transom more designed for primarily motor... I have a utility trailer like that. Thanks! Let me know if you want to build the thing.. I can give you the numbers and the shapes of the panels, which pretty much makes the boat come together on it's own... Can be either built with chines or just stitch and tape... I would be all over that if I had the time and space to do the work! The contractor supply business seems slow these days. Just build the boat on your front counter. Didn't take you long to mess up yet another on topic thread, did it? |
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