On Feb 27, 1:31*pm, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 February 2013 13:25:02 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. *wrote:
On 2/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Boxer said he has

evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped

short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is

a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent

analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents

was pennies to them anyway

I know nothing about beer brewing or the expense attached to commercial

beer brewing. I do know the few times I "taste-tested" Bud's U.S.

brands, I thought they were ****y. A decade or so ago, I was at a

pavilion in Orlando, maybe at SeaWorld, where the makers of Bud were

offering free samples of all their beers. It was very hot that day, and

I got in line a few times. I didn't like any of the offerings.

It's not a snob thing. I'm not much of a beer drinker. If I have a beer,

and I have a choice, I'll pick a Mexican or Japanese beer. I did have a

favorite "local" beer from Mexico, which is the only place I've ever had

one, but I read somewhere the brand was "absorbed" by a bigger brand in

that country.

Funny...way back in the day we used to laugh at the little yanke sailors who'd get buzzed off a few of our beers.
At that time 'merican beer was ****y and ours... a man's ale supposidly a couple percent more alcohol.

The only " ****ing " you do, is in the Depends that you wear due to
old age incontinence.

On 2/27/2013 1:44 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 February 2013 13:25:02 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Boxer said he has

evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped

short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is

a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent

analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents

was pennies to them anyway

I know nothing about beer brewing or the expense attached to commercial

beer brewing. I do know the few times I "taste-tested" Bud's U.S.

brands, I thought they were ****y. A decade or so ago, I was at a

pavilion in Orlando, maybe at SeaWorld, where the makers of Bud were

offering free samples of all their beers. It was very hot that day, and

I got in line a few times. I didn't like any of the offerings.

It's not a snob thing. I'm not much of a beer drinker. If I have a beer,

and I have a choice, I'll pick a Mexican or Japanese beer. I did have a

favorite "local" beer from Mexico, which is the only place I've ever had

one, but I read somewhere the brand was "absorbed" by a bigger brand in

that country.

Funny...way back in the day we used to laugh at the little yanke sailors who'd get buzzed off a few of our beers.
At that time 'merican beer was ****y and ours... a man's ale supposidly a couple percent more alcohol.

The only " ****ing " you do, is in the Depends that you wear due to
old age incontinence.

At east now, he has a legitimate excuse for peeing his pants.

On 2/27/2013 2:01 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/27/2013 1:44 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:31 pm, True North wrote:
On Wednesday, 27 February 2013 13:25:02 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:

On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Boxer said he has

evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but
stopped

short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is

a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent

analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents

was pennies to them anyway

I know nothing about beer brewing or the expense attached to commercial

beer brewing. I do know the few times I "taste-tested" Bud's U.S.

brands, I thought they were ****y. A decade or so ago, I was at a

pavilion in Orlando, maybe at SeaWorld, where the makers of Bud were

offering free samples of all their beers. It was very hot that day, and

I got in line a few times. I didn't like any of the offerings.

It's not a snob thing. I'm not much of a beer drinker. If I have a
beer,

and I have a choice, I'll pick a Mexican or Japanese beer. I did have a

favorite "local" beer from Mexico, which is the only place I've ever
had

one, but I read somewhere the brand was "absorbed" by a bigger brand in

that country.

Funny...way back in the day we used to laugh at the little yanke
sailors who'd get buzzed off a few of our beers.
At that time 'merican beer was ****y and ours... a man's ale
supposidly a couple percent more alcohol.

The only " ****ing " you do, is in the Depends that you wear due to
old age incontinence.

At east now, he has a legitimate excuse for peeing his pants.

That should be least.

In article ,
says...

On 2/27/2013 9:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges

Beer lovers across the U.S. have accused Anheuser-Busch of watering down
its Budweiser, Michelob and other brands, in class-action suits seeking
millions in damages.

The suits, filed in Pennsylvania, California and other states, claim
consumers have been cheated out of the alcohol content stated on labels.
Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some
"light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent.

The lawsuits are based on information from former employees at the
company's 13 U.S. breweries, some in high-level plant positions,
according to lead lawyer Josh Boxer of San Rafael, Calif.

"Our information comes from former employees at Anheuser-Busch, who have
informed us that as a matter of corporate practice, all of their
products mentioned (in the lawsuit) are watered down," Boxer said. "It's
a simple cost-saving measure, and it's very significant."

The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated
alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said.

Anheuser-Busch InBev called the claims "groundless" and said its beers
fully comply with labeling laws.

"Our beers are in full compliance with all alcohol labeling laws. We
proudly adhere to the highest standards in brewing our beers, which have
made them the best-selling in the U.S. and the world," Peter Kraemer,
vice president of brewing and supply, said in a statement.

The suit involves 10 Anheuser-Busch products: Budweiser, Bud Ice, Bud
Light Platinum, Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Hurricane High Gravity Lager,
King Cobra, Busch Ice, Natural Ice and Bud Light Lime.

Anheuser-Busch, based in St. Louis, Mo., merged with InBev in 2008 to
form the world's largest alcohol producer, headquartered in Belgium. In
2011, the company produced 10 billion gallons of malt beverages, 3
billion of them in the U.S., and reported $22 billion in profits from
that category, the lawsuit said.

AB InBev, the maker of Budweiser and Stella Artois, controls 39 percent
of the U.S. beer market.

According to the lawsuit, the company has sophisticated equipment that
measures the alcohol content throughout the brewing process and is
accurate to within one-hundredth of a percent. But after the merger, the
company increasingly chose to dilute its popular brands of beer, the
lawsuit alleged.

"Following the merger, AB vigorously accelerated the deceptive practices
described below, sacrificing the quality products once produced by
Anheuser-Busch in order to reduce costs," said the lead lawsuit, filed
Friday in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of consumers in the
lower 48 states.

Companion suits are being filed this week in Pennsylvania, New Jersey
and elsewhere. Each seeks at least $5 million in damages.

The named Pennsylvania plaintiffs, Thomas and Gerald Greenberg of
Ambler, said they buy six cases of the affected Anheuser-Busch products
a month. They did not immediately return a message Tuesday, and Boxer
would not elaborate on their purchases except to say the
consumer-protection suit does not involve retailers or bar owners.

One of the California plaintiffs, Nina Giampaoli of Sonoma County, said
she bought a six-pack of Budweiser every week for the past four years.

"I think it's wrong for huge corporations to lie to their loyal
customers ? I really feel cheated. No matter what the product is, people
should be able to rely on the information companies put on their
labels," Giampaoli said in a news release issued by Boxer's law firm.

Bloomberg News first reported Tuesday on the lawsuits.

In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

"AB (Anheuser-Busch) never intends for the malt beverage to possess the
amount of alcohol that is stated on the label. As a result, AB's
customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly
enriched by the additional volume it can sell," the lawsuit said.
- - -

Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand
owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of
people did.




Probably some kind of wildcat action by the union...

That's got to be the stupidest thing you've said here, and you've said
some insane, stupid things.

In article ,
says...

On 2/27/2013 10:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/27/13 10:29 AM, True North wrote:




Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand

owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of

people did.









Probably some kind of wildcat action by the union...


You, my...you couldn't sound any stupider than you do.
It must come naturally, as you're not known for working hard at anything.



Not likely that PsychoSnotty could get a skilled job at a brewery. Those
jobs require knowledge, experience, skill, ability to know what
ingredients and time do, a high level of cleanliness, et cetera.

What does that have to do with the troll thread you posted? How are the
folks you stiffed in Florida doing? Two bankruptcies, several failed
businesses of your own, you have not a leg to stand on here as to work
ethic harry

How are the people of CT doing after you stiffed them on your property
taxes?

In article ,
says...

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:21:01 AM UTC-4, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 2/27/2013 9:38 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges



Beer lovers across the U.S. have accused Anheuser-Busch of watering down

its Budweiser, Michelob and other brands, in class-action suits seeking

millions in damages.



The suits, filed in Pennsylvania, California and other states, claim

consumers have been cheated out of the alcohol content stated on labels.

Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some

"light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent.



The lawsuits are based on information from former employees at the

company's 13 U.S. breweries, some in high-level plant positions,

according to lead lawyer Josh Boxer of San Rafael, Calif.



"Our information comes from former employees at Anheuser-Busch, who have

informed us that as a matter of corporate practice, all of their

products mentioned (in the lawsuit) are watered down," Boxer said. "It's

a simple cost-saving measure, and it's very significant."



The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated

alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said.



Anheuser-Busch InBev called the claims "groundless" and said its beers

fully comply with labeling laws.



"Our beers are in full compliance with all alcohol labeling laws. We

proudly adhere to the highest standards in brewing our beers, which have

made them the best-selling in the U.S. and the world," Peter Kraemer,

vice president of brewing and supply, said in a statement.



The suit involves 10 Anheuser-Busch products: Budweiser, Bud Ice, Bud

Light Platinum, Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Hurricane High Gravity Lager,

King Cobra, Busch Ice, Natural Ice and Bud Light Lime.



Anheuser-Busch, based in St. Louis, Mo., merged with InBev in 2008 to

form the world's largest alcohol producer, headquartered in Belgium. In

2011, the company produced 10 billion gallons of malt beverages, 3

billion of them in the U.S., and reported $22 billion in profits from

that category, the lawsuit said.



AB InBev, the maker of Budweiser and Stella Artois, controls 39 percent

of the U.S. beer market.



According to the lawsuit, the company has sophisticated equipment that

measures the alcohol content throughout the brewing process and is

accurate to within one-hundredth of a percent. But after the merger, the

company increasingly chose to dilute its popular brands of beer, the

lawsuit alleged.



"Following the merger, AB vigorously accelerated the deceptive practices

described below, sacrificing the quality products once produced by

Anheuser-Busch in order to reduce costs," said the lead lawsuit, filed

Friday in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of consumers in the

lower 48 states.



Companion suits are being filed this week in Pennsylvania, New Jersey

and elsewhere. Each seeks at least $5 million in damages.



The named Pennsylvania plaintiffs, Thomas and Gerald Greenberg of

Ambler, said they buy six cases of the affected Anheuser-Busch products

a month. They did not immediately return a message Tuesday, and Boxer

would not elaborate on their purchases except to say the

consumer-protection suit does not involve retailers or bar owners.



One of the California plaintiffs, Nina Giampaoli of Sonoma County, said

she bought a six-pack of Budweiser every week for the past four years.



"I think it's wrong for huge corporations to lie to their loyal

customers ï¿? I really feel cheated. No matter what the product is, people

should be able to rely on the information companies put on their

labels," Giampaoli said in a news release issued by Boxer's law firm.



Bloomberg News first reported Tuesday on the lawsuits.



In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has

evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped

short of saying the beers had been independently tested.



"AB (Anheuser-Busch) never intends for the malt beverage to possess the

amount of alcohol that is stated on the label. As a result, AB's

customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly

enriched by the additional volume it can sell," the lawsuit said.

- - -



Probably didn't happen when the Bud brand was a proud American brand

owned by the Busch family. Never liked the brands, but I know a lot of

people did.









Probably some kind of wildcat action by the union...


You, my...you couldn't sound any stupider than you do.
It must come naturally, as you're not known for working hard at anything.

He sure has a deep hatred for unions. You'd think that an unemployed,
unemployable **** like him would quite about it. It would be different
if he actually was part of the workforce.

In article ,
says...

On 2/27/2013 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is
a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent
analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents
was pennies to them anyway


This reeks of union stench... Must be Budweiser wanted the folks who
pick the beer off of the pallets to stop putting them on other pallets,
there is another man for that and the handoff needs to be properly
documented... which of course takes another guy or gal

You insane stupid fool!!!! Please do show us how this has ANYTHING to do
with ANY union. What a dumb ass!!!

In article ,
says...

On 2/27/2013 12:25 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is
a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent
analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents
was pennies to them anyway



I know nothing about beer brewing or the expense attached to commercial
beer brewing. I do know the few times I "taste-tested" Bud's U.S.
brands, I thought they were ****y. A decade or so ago, I was at a
pavilion in Orlando, maybe at SeaWorld, where the makers of Bud were
offering free samples of all their beers. It was very hot that day, and
I got in line a few times. I didn't like any of the offerings.

It's not a snob thing. I'm not much of a beer drinker. If I have a beer,
and I have a choice, I'll pick a Mexican or Japanese beer. I did have a
favorite "local" beer from Mexico, which is the only place I've ever had
one, but I read somewhere the brand was "absorbed" by a bigger brand in
that country.

Cool story bro! However, it doesn't answer the question why they didn't
do a quicky check on the content? Guarantee if you were on scene, there
is something the union is looking for, it's not getting.

Uh, you insane twit, it's not up to the union to do "quality checks" nor
is the recipe or contents of the beer. How freakin' insane ARE you?

In article ,
says...

On 2/27/2013 1:02 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/27/13 12:54 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/27/2013 12:50 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/27/13 12:48 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/27/2013 12:25 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/27/13 12:14 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:38:53 -0500, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Boxer said he has
evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but
stopped
short of saying the beers had been independently tested.

That would seem to be the first step. Checking the alcohol content is
a trivial process. I wonder why they did not try to get independent
analysis.

I always assumed the bottle cost more than the beer and the contents
was pennies to them anyway



I know nothing about beer brewing or the expense attached to
commercial
beer brewing. I do know the few times I "taste-tested" Bud's U.S.
brands, I thought they were ****y. A decade or so ago, I was at a
pavilion in Orlando, maybe at SeaWorld, where the makers of Bud were
offering free samples of all their beers. It was very hot that day,
and
I got in line a few times. I didn't like any of the offerings.

It's not a snob thing. I'm not much of a beer drinker. If I have a
beer,
and I have a choice, I'll pick a Mexican or Japanese beer. I did
have a
favorite "local" beer from Mexico, which is the only place I've ever
had
one, but I read somewhere the brand was "absorbed" by a bigger
brand in
that country.

Cool story bro! However, it doesn't answer the question why they didn't
do a quicky check on the content? Guarantee if you were on scene, there
is something the union is looking for, it's not getting.

You should buy some bottle caps for your paranoia.

Nice insult (well, not really) but it doesn't answer the question why
they didn't do a quicky check on the content? Guarantee if you were on
scene, there is something the union is looking for, it's not getting.

You have no knowledge of the particulars of the situation in the brewery.

I have as much if not more than you do... And this reeks of a union
action...

Well if you have all this "knowledge" tell us, just what did the union
do or not do? What union? Under who's direction? Where do you get the
notion that quality checks and the results of those quality checks has
anything to do with a union?

On Thursday, 28 February 2013 12:04:13 UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
snip..
Uh, you insane twit, it's not up to the union to do "quality checks" nor

is the recipe or contents of the beer. How freakin' insane ARE you?

This Snottie presents as a semi-retarded person.
It has to be that or he is just trying to stir up trouble in the newsgroup by saying outrageous idiotic things which he knows less than nothing about.
I wish we could enforce a needed rule that you would have to own a boat..or have an interest in boating before disrupting this newsgroup.