On 3/16/2013 7:45 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Boating All Out" wrote in message
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Uh. no. She made teleprompter jokes. While reading her entire "speech"
off a teleprompter.
http://tinyurl.com/bgrlo8s
You are really a naif, Richard.
Palin really isn't worth comment, except as a "target."
She's not worth that actually, since she's an old joke.
Harry probably mentions her only to see who will defend her.
Since I'm here, there's nothing wrong with any beer that somebody else
likes to drink. I don't like Bud, but others do.
And they don't call Miller's the "Champagne of Bottled Beers" for
nothing.
That's just how it is.

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BTW ... I never said anything negative about anybody's choice in beers,
if that is what you are implying.
In fact, I made the point to Harry that brewers make what people buy.
Bud has been very successful.
Like Harry, I very rarely drink beer (or anything for that matter). I
drank a lot of beer as a younger man, but those days are gone.




Harry's a pompous ass and we were just having fun with him.

On Mar 16, 5:04*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
No, it's not "Earl" introducing "Meyer" at the local strip club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkRw4...ature=youtu.be

It looks like harry, and dickhead have their fingers up each others
asses....what WILL Gumby do???

In article ,
says...

The
leadership of this country needs to focus on creating opportunities
for all, not safety nets for all.

We need to elect leaders who promote personal responsibility and who
represent their constituents rather than promoting themselves and
representing their party.

On 3/17/2013 3:03 AM, *e#c wrote:
On Mar 16, 5:04 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
No, it's not "Earl" introducing "Meyer" at the local strip club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkRw4...ature=youtu.be

It looks like harry, and dickhead have their fingers up each others
asses....what WILL Gumby do???


You're losing me. I thought Harry was Dickhead.

On 3/17/2013 8:04 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

The
leadership of this country needs to focus on creating opportunities
for all, not safety nets for all.

We need to elect leaders who promote personal responsibility and who
represent their constituents rather than promoting themselves and
representing their party.

Finding them will be like finding needles in a haystack.

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:08:58 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 8:04 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

The
leadership of this country needs to focus on creating opportunities
for all, not safety nets for all.

We need to elect leaders who promote personal responsibility and who
represent their constituents rather than promoting themselves and
representing their party.

Finding them will be like finding needles in a haystack.

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Frankly it's probably impossible without some major readjustments to
our attitudes, media and political system. There's a lot that is
broken right now. It didn't happen quickly and it's not likely to
get fixed quickly either. We have a major leadership gap, and in the
present environment there's not much incentive for the right people to
step forward. No matter how talented and suited for the job, how
many people want to see their reputations, families, friends and
professional associates dragged through the mud?

My biggest concern is that change will come about through some sort of
cataclysmic event like a great depression, world war, massive social
unrest or some other large scale upheaval. When the population
becomes irreparably divided it usually takes something like that to
bring people back together again.

On 3/17/2013 11:46 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

And the ills we suffer here come primarily from the business culture,
which holds the strings of the pols and has them dancing to their tunes.



And the other 49% of Americans think we suffer from the "entitlement"
class...

On 3/17/2013 11:47 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:08:58 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/17/2013 8:04 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

The
leadership of this country needs to focus on creating opportunities
for all, not safety nets for all.

We need to elect leaders who promote personal responsibility and who
represent their constituents rather than promoting themselves and
representing their party.

Finding them will be like finding needles in a haystack.

=======

Frankly it's probably impossible without some major readjustments to
our attitudes, media and political system. There's a lot that is
broken right now. It didn't happen quickly and it's not likely to
get fixed quickly either. We have a major leadership gap, and in the
present environment there's not much incentive for the right people to
step forward. No matter how talented and suited for the job, how
many people want to see their reputations, families, friends and
professional associates dragged through the mud?

My biggest concern is that change will come about through some sort of
cataclysmic event like a great depression, world war, massive social
unrest or some other large scale upheaval. When the population
becomes irreparably divided it usually takes something like that to
bring people back together again.


Perhaps if we elect a person of integrity to LEAD this country, others
will follow.

In article ,
says...

On 3/17/2013 11:46 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

And the ills we suffer here come primarily from the business culture,
which holds the strings of the pols and has them dancing to their tunes.



And the other 49% of Americans think we suffer from the "entitlement"
class...

Cite? Oh, wait, of course, you NEVER post anything based in reality.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...


I don't see any change for the better without a major restructuring of
society so that the lower and middle income folks have a chance, a
real
chance, for good jobs, health care, and a decent retirement. The flow
of
resources has to be reversed from the very rich to everyone else.

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There has always been the "very rich" in our society and there has
always been those who aspire to become rich or at least comfortably
well off.
That hasn't changed.

What has changed is that the opportunities for growth from one "class"
(bad characterization, but you get the idea) to another have
diminished dramatically. So, as the middle class shrinks, the "rich"
look like the villains who deserve all the blame.

That's not the problem. The problem, (as I see it and tried to point
out before) is that good paying jobs that are the basis of careers
and advancement over the years have disappeared. Those that come
back and used to pay $30 per hour now only pay $15. It's an economic
shakeup due mostly to the emergence of a global economy and
competition for those jobs coming from qualified but low paying
factories off shore.