In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

And the bigot comes out of his hole....

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:54:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

He may have been one of those guys who would come back to the smoking section 'cause we were having
such a good time. Generally we treated them poorly.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

On 3/23/13 5:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:54:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

He may have been one of those guys who would come back to the smoking section 'cause we were having
such a good time. Generally we treated them poorly.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


Fortunately, my first flight to Hawaii was *after* smoking was banned
aboard U.S. airline planes. I do remember, however, from previous
flights the stench you assholes created in the planes. I'm glad you had
a great time playing around with carcinogens and, of course, there's
always the decent chance they'll come back to haunt you.

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...

Wife and I have flown around the world a couple of times mostly on Pan Am's
Flight 1 and 2 but with side trips on local carriers. What a marvelous
feeling it was to be at the airport in New Delhi and see that big blue and
white plane come in and know we were home though still a zillion miles from
home. Wife used to carry knitting needles, scissors, ect., and do alot of
needlepoint and knitting along the way. Always a good conversation maker
with crew and other passengers. But that was all pre-9/11. We don't do that
anymore.


-----------------------

You can still bring knitting needles and crochet hooks aboard and small
scissors. My wife brought Crochet along on this trip. Takes her knitting
on a lot of trips also. Pan Am was good airline to fly most of the time. I
used to take a Pan Am 747 SP to Hong Kong, business class during the 80's.
First trip was only 125 on board plane and I went back to coach and had 5
seats across to take about a 7 hour sleep on the trip. Problem these days
is they have jacked the Business class price absurdly! Used to be an about
50% kicker. Now a 4+ times kicker. We could upgrade our $1780 coach ticket
to Business for an extra $5800.

wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

If we go again, it'll be with a stopover on the Left Coast, a night in a
hotel, and continuation the next day.

My wife wants to go to New Zealand but I think I would have to make
that a 3 leg trip maybe walking around for a day or two on the left
coast and again in Hawaii


--------------------

That trip is short listed. Probably SFO to Tahiti then to NZ. Then
probably to OZ then back via Hawaii. Trying to cash in American Airlines
miles for Business class tickets, but seems to be impossible.

"J Herring" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


---------------------

Actually is caused by idiot public servants. let every one aboard carry a
knife and then no worry about hijackings.

On 3/23/13 6:29 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote in message ...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

If we go again, it'll be with a stopover on the Left Coast, a night in a
hotel, and continuation the next day.

My wife wants to go to New Zealand but I think I would have to make
that a 3 leg trip maybe walking around for a day or two on the left
coast and again in Hawaii


--------------------

That trip is short listed. Probably SFO to Tahiti then to NZ. Then
probably to OZ then back via Hawaii. Trying to cash in American
Airlines miles for Business class tickets, but seems to be impossible.


It seems like American Airlines has gotten a lot more restrictive lately
on what you can and cannot do with "miles."

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:54:59 -0400, Meyer wrote:

On 3/23/2013 3:06 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:12:00 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/23/13 11:05 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:23:54 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

And then 45
minutes filling out lost luggage claim. Did not make the plane in LAX,

It is interesting that your bags made it half way around the world
without a hitch and got lost right down the road from you.

Great trip but I, also, would have trouble being on a plane that long.


In our first trip to Hawaii, before 9/11, we flew on a one stop from DC
to Minneapolis to Honolulu, and the only aspect that made it tolerable
was that we could walk around the plane and "gather" and stand around at
the rear of the cabin with the cabin attendants and talk with everyone.
We brought our own snacks and drinks and nobody gave a damn about it.
Hell, I brought a soft-sided cooler aboard.It was a pretty jolly flight.
Our second trip was a couple of years ago, and the flight was grim,
grim, grim because of the changes brought about by 9-11.

Damn Christians!

Oh, wait, it was *Muslim* terrorists, wasn't it?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Can you imagine folks gathering around to chat with Krausie, on a plane?
Neither can I. ;-)

He may have been one of those guys who would come back to the smoking section 'cause we were having
such a good time. Generally we treated them poorly.


Salmonbait

Smoking's a 'good time', eh? No wonder Scotty condones it, cancer or
not.

In article ,
says...

"Gogarty" wrote in message
...

Wife and I have flown around the world a couple of times mostly on Pan Am's
Flight 1 and 2 but with side trips on local carriers. What a marvelous
feeling it was to be at the airport in New Delhi and see that big blue and
white plane come in and know we were home though still a zillion miles from
home. Wife used to carry knitting needles, scissors, ect., and do alot of
needlepoint and knitting along the way. Always a good conversation maker
with crew and other passengers. But that was all pre-9/11. We don't do that
anymore.


-----------------------

You can still bring knitting needles and crochet hooks aboard and small
scissors. My wife brought Crochet along on this trip. Takes her knitting
on a lot of trips also. Pan Am was good airline to fly most of the time. I
used to take a Pan Am 747 SP to Hong Kong, business class during the 80's.
First trip was only 125 on board plane and I went back to coach and had 5
seats across to take about a 7 hour sleep on the trip. Problem these days
is they have jacked the Business class price absurdly! Used to be an about
50% kicker. Now a 4+ times kicker. We could upgrade our $1780 coach ticket
to Business for an extra $5800.

Flew coach to China 4 or 5 years ago. What a miserable experience, worse
than any domestic flight I ever took and not because of the length.
Completely full, and airlines have cheapened everything down, so here we
are on this forever flight, packed to the gills with people some of whom
had questionable hygiene habits. Loud, cramped, smelly, many drunks.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:50:25 -0400, Meyer wrote:

Most people have sense enough to do that. Actually stopping over a few
nights in SF might even be better.

Not a horrible idea. Come in late, do a next day hike in the Muir
woods and get out early the next day

Muir woods is okay, overly trampled by massive amounts of people, but
okay.