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Here you go Dick...
On Friday, 29 March 2013 09:41:16 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news  On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? From your article: Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up Published March 23, 2013 | FoxNews.com Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks. Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more boxes of ammo. If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the government's teat for five years. ---------------------------------- Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the headlines only, not the article. It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high school in Connecticut. ======================= What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a gun. We went through all that when a previous Liberal Gov't brought in long arm registration a number of years ago. We already had fairly restrictive handgun controls. People pointed to Australia.. claimed that the gov't was going to first force us to register and then take our firearms. I registered and I still have my 20 ga shotgun and my 22 cal semi-auto rifle with 6x scope. Our current Conservative govt just abolished the firearm registry last year. Handguns are still heavily restricted, of course. |
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#12
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Here you go Dick...
On 3/29/13 9:11 AM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 29 March 2013 09:41:16 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? From your article: Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up Published March 23, 2013 | FoxNews.com Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks. Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more boxes of ammo. If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the government's teat for five years. ---------------------------------- Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the headlines only, not the article. It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high school in Connecticut. ======================= What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a gun. We went through all that when a previous Liberal Gov't brought in long arm registration a number of years ago. We already had fairly restrictive handgun controls. People pointed to Australia.. claimed that the gov't was going to first force us to register and then take our firearms. I registered and I still have my 20 ga shotgun and my 22 cal semi-auto rifle with 6x scope. Our current Conservative govt just abolished the firearm registry last year. Handguns are still heavily restricted, of course. Canadians and Canadian gun laws are far more rational than Americans and American gun laws. |
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#13
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Here you go Dick...
On 3/29/2013 9:11 AM, True North wrote:
On Friday, 29 March 2013 09:41:16 UTC-3, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? From your article: Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up Published March 23, 2013 | FoxNews.com Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks. Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more boxes of ammo. If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the government's teat for five years. ---------------------------------- Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the headlines only, not the article. It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high school in Connecticut. ======================= What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a gun. We went through all that when a previous Liberal Gov't brought in long arm registration a number of years ago. We already had fairly restrictive handgun controls. People pointed to Australia.. claimed that the gov't was going to first force us to register and then take our firearms. I registered and I still have my 20 ga shotgun and my 22 cal semi-auto rifle with 6x scope. Our current Conservative govt just abolished the firearm registry last year. Handguns are still heavily restricted, of course. Why do you insist on owning girly stuff? |
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Here you go Dick...
"Hank©" wrote in message eb.com... On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? From your article: Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up Published March 23, 2013 | FoxNews.com Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and state level stock up on firearms and bullets. At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it *wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply. The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws. States like Colorado and New York have already approved such legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment. Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis., to Newtown, Conn. ------ The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass purchases of ammo by a federal agency. There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in most of the calibers available. Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks. Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more boxes of ammo. If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the government's teat for five years. So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases are you storing? -------------------------------------------- You didn't direct your question to me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents worth: Yes, I think it's stupid for private citizens to stockpile more ammo than they reasonably need for home defense or as a hobby shooting at a range. Why? Because it's based on hysteria and only serves to create shortages and drive the price of ammo up. That said though, I also would not favor new laws restricting the amount of ammo a private citizen can buy. If the preppers and fanatics want to blow their money on ammo, it's their right. Eventually, it will pass. Realistically, the chances of needing a gun for personal/home defense is very small and statistics prove that without a doubt. But, there's always the possibility and I believe having a gun and knowing how to use it to protect yourself or your family is prudent and responsible. I also respect the opinion of those who don't want the responsibility or just don't like guns. I never wanted one around when we had kids in the house. But, now that I am older and the kids are on their own, I felt it was an appropriate time to get a permit and gun. Since then, I've discovered that I enjoy going to the range with some friends once a week or so and becoming more proficient with shooting. The bulk of ammo used by private citizens are for hobby shooting at a range or for hunting. A massive stockpile of ammo isn't needed those activities or hobbies. This shortage will pass once the hysteria being promoted by the ultra-right media dies down. |
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#15
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Here you go Dick...
On 3/29/13 9:23 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"Hank©" wrote in message eb.com... On 3/29/2013 8:04 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? From your article: Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up Published March 23, 2013 | FoxNews.com Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and state level stock up on firearms and bullets. At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it *wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply. The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws. States like Colorado and New York have already approved such legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment. Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis., to Newtown, Conn. ------ The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass purchases of ammo by a federal agency. There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in most of the calibers available. Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks. Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more boxes of ammo. If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the government's teat for five years. So you think it's stupid for citizens to stockpile ammo? How many cases are you storing? -------------------------------------------- You didn't direct your question to me, but I'll throw in my 2 cents worth: Yes, I think it's stupid for private citizens to stockpile more ammo than they reasonably need for home defense or as a hobby shooting at a range. Why? Because it's based on hysteria and only serves to create shortages and drive the price of ammo up. That said though, I also would not favor new laws restricting the amount of ammo a private citizen can buy. If the preppers and fanatics want to blow their money on ammo, it's their right. Eventually, it will pass. Realistically, the chances of needing a gun for personal/home defense is very small and statistics prove that without a doubt. But, there's always the possibility and I believe having a gun and knowing how to use it to protect yourself or your family is prudent and responsible. I also respect the opinion of those who don't want the responsibility or just don't like guns. I never wanted one around when we had kids in the house. But, now that I am older and the kids are on their own, I felt it was an appropriate time to get a permit and gun. Since then, I've discovered that I enjoy going to the range with some friends once a week or so and becoming more proficient with shooting. The bulk of ammo used by private citizens are for hobby shooting at a range or for hunting. A massive stockpile of ammo isn't needed those activities or hobbies. This shortage will pass once the hysteria being promoted by the ultra-right media dies down. I have enough ammo on hand for a few trips to a nearby outdoor range as soon as the weather warms up. I don't like shooting outdoors in the cold, and lately I've only been going to the indoor range about twice a month. I much prefer outdoor ranges. Typically, at the range, I'll shoot two boxes or 100 rounds of ball ammo 9mm, two boxes or 200 rounds of .22LR in my pistol, and two boxes or 200 rounds of .22LR in my rifle. I use inexpensive but clean ammo for practicing at the range. I like Sellier and Bellot and CCI. I keep a 9mm mag full of hollow point at home for defensive purposes, plus my 12 gauge. |
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Here you go Dick...
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says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? --------------------------------------------------------- Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check. They had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement" hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50. So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage. Eh, you're a smart man, you already knew that was insane bullcrap! |
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#18
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Here you go Dick...
On 3/29/2013 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? From your article: Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up Published March 23, 2013 | FoxNews.com Local law enforcement agencies across the country are facing an ammo shortage, as gun owners concerned about new laws at the federal and state level stock up on firearms and bullets. At the same time, the Department of Homeland Security has said it *wants* to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years -- which could put further strain on the supply. The shortage, coupled with an increase in prices, comes as many gun owners head to the stores in anticipation of new gun control laws. States like Colorado and New York have already approved such legislation, while Democrats move toward bringing a bill to the Senate floor. At the moment, the congressional bill does not include an assault-weapons ban, but a ban is expected to be floated as an amendment. Still, what one official described as "panic-buying" set in, as lawmakers rallied to draft new legislation in the wake of a series of tragic mass shootings last year, from Aurora, Colo., to Oak Creek, Wis., to Newtown, Conn. ------ The shortage is being cause by "panic buying" by gun nuts, not by mass purchases of ammo by a federal agency. There are dozens and dozens of calibers used in firearms and within those categories of dozens of different varieties. DHS is only intending to buy ammo in a couple of these categories, and has no use for ammo in most of the calibers available. Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks. Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more boxes of ammo. If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the government's teat for five years. ---------------------------------- Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the headlines only, not the article. Schooled what? I said that they were buying up 1.6 billion rounds, you challenged me, I put up the article.... |
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Here you go Dick...
On 3/29/2013 8:41 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 3/29/13 8:16 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? From your article: Local law enforcement face ammo shortage as gun owners, DHS stock up Published March 23, 2013 | FoxNews.com Ammo *is* in short supply, an artificial situation caused by gun owners and ammo manufactuers, the former because they are just plain stupid sheeples and the latter because they see a way to make extra bucks. Who is a stupid sheeple? Your buddy Herring, for one, who apparently drives over to Wal-Mart every morning to see if he can buy five more boxes of ammo. If the DHS wants to buy a boatload of ammo over the next five years, it will contract directly with the manufacturers, and the manufacturers who get the contracts will ramp up production of the calibers the agency wants. There is no shortage of ammo manufacturers willing to suck on the government's teat for five years. ---------------------------------- Heh. I just scolded him for the same thing. I think he reads the headlines only, not the article. It is embarrassing that Scotty even claims to have graduated from a high school in Connecticut. ======================= What really surprises me is the number of reasonably well educated people (meaning they should be able to read and comprehend) who share Scott's paranoia regarding guns and ammo shortages. Not all, but some people I talk to or meet when I go to the range talk the same talk and some are lawyers or other educated professionals. There are a few obvious "preppers" here and there, but not many. Most of the conversations center on types of firearms, experiences with them, likes and dislikes, etc., but I am still surprised at the number of people who think the government is plotting to take away their right to own a gun. What surprises me is you and harry not reading what I said.. But do ego on... |
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Here you go Dick...
On 3/29/2013 8:27 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message news
On 3/29/13 6:43 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: ... you know guys, if you stop looking to Anderson Cooper and Racheal Maddcow for your news, you may even become an informed American voter.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...dhs-stocks-up/ Soooo, take a quick check and verify what I said earlier like Greg usually does for me... I don't make this **** up, even if you don't like the way I present it. You ignorant little ****, do you even read what you post before you post it and then claim "facts" not in play? --------------------------------------------------------- Last week my favorite gun shop was totally sold out of .380 ammo and I had used up almost all I had at the range. They said they had more coming in this past Wednesday, so yesterday I stopped in to check. They had some, but all they could get was premium "law enforcement" hollowpoints at $39 for a box of 50. So much for DHS buying up all the ammo and "causing" the shortage. Now you are starting to sound like Loogie.... later... Cause of course you found some ammo and MSNBC said.... LOL.... |
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