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says...

On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.


That's stupid!! The light disperses differently???? Oh man!!!!!!
BWAAHAA!!!

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says...

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I
have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you
need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and
need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my
office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0..
er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

------------------------------------------------

Better hurry. Phillips (the largest maker of florescent light tubes)
recently announced the phase out of fluorescents in favor of LEDs.

Good, I LOVE what LED's I have so far.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.

WTF are "Al Gore bulbs"???

In article om, hank57
@socialworker.net says...

On 5/4/2013 12:30 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

Have you had your eyes checked lately? BTW, LEDs are far superior to
CFLs in many ways.

Sure, he has, it's just that FOX told him that CFL's and LED's are bad!

In article om, hank57
@socialworker.net says...

On 5/4/2013 9:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.

CFL's.


Those ARE the Al Gore bulbs.

Bull****. Fluorescent lighting has been around for many, many years.

On Sat, 4 May 2013 09:06:33 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.

CFL's.

Thanks.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On Sat, 04 May 2013 11:52:05 -0400, Hank© wrote:

On 5/4/2013 9:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.

CFL's.


Those ARE the Al Gore bulbs.

Then they don't work.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 5/4/2013 12:30 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:
Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.


Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

Have you had your eyes checked lately? BTW, LEDs are far superior to
CFLs in many ways.

On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:
On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:





Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.

Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.

Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....

Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.

On 5/4/2013 7:13 AM, True North wrote:
I suggest you stick your finger in...should energize you for the coming boating season.

Are you still using the one bulb to illuminate your whole house? What
wattage is it?