On 5/4/2013 9:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

Well, I sure hope y'all figure it out soon and tell me what to put in my Casablanca fans, which are
the programmable jobs, here when I bought the place, and seem to like eating bulbs. The 'Al Gore'
bulbs don't work.

John H.

CFL's.


Those ARE the Al Gore bulbs.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 04 May 2013 05:46:52 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:09:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

====

When we lived in the northeast I had a couple of 8 foot double
flourescent fixtures over the table saw in my work shop. They were
*very* illuminating and created no shadows. The 8 ft tubes are kind
of a PITA to handle however.

When I lived in the frozen north my 48" fluorescent would not light in
the winter in my garage. I looked into "cold start" ballasts but they
were $75 each in 1980 money

No problem here in Florida tho.

If you get the newer T-8s or T-5s they have a bit lower wattage for
the same light output. T-12s are going through the same phase out as
the incandescent bulbs. Some commercial supply houses don't sell them
at all now but you can still get them at consumer outlets like
HD/Lowes..

A lot of things don't work well in the frozen north!

If that's the case, go out and get a real job. It would do you wonders.

On May 4, 10:47*am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:

Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. *Do you have 110 volt AC available? * If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. *Do you care about power consumption? *If no, see question 1.

3. *Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? * If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. *Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? * If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. *Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? *If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. *Do you need absolute "instant on"? * If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. *How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? * It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.

Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.

Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....

Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.

Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......

On May 4, 2:15*pm, True North wrote:
If that's the case, go out and get a real job. It would do you wonders.

Gumby is talking to himself. He doesnt have Harrys dick in his mouth,
and is lost.

On 5/4/2013 3:34 PM, *e#c wrote:
On May 4, 10:47 am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:

Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.

Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.

Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....

Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.

Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......

You trying to hurt my feelings or sumpin?

On 5/4/2013 3:34 PM, *e#c wrote:
On May 4, 10:47 am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:

Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1.

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.

Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.

Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....

Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.

Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......

Ahhhh. I see you need more lamp time.

That advice applies to you equally, Jackass.

On May 4, 3:55*pm, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:34 PM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 10:47 am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:

On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:

Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. *Do you have 110 volt AC available? * If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. *Do you care about power consumption? *If no, see question 1..

3. *Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? * If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. *Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? * If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. *Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? *If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. *Do you need absolute "instant on"? * If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. *How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? * It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.

Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.

Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....

Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.

Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......

Ahhhh. I see you need more lamp time.

But exactly WHO is Gumby talking to.....his hand????

On 5/5/2013 3:17 AM, *e#c wrote:
On May 4, 3:55 pm, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:34 PM, *e#c wrote:



On May 4, 10:47 am, Hank© wrote:
On 5/4/2013 3:39 AM, *e#c wrote:

On May 4, 12:30 am, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:
On 5/3/2013 10:49 PM, Wayne B wrote:

Summarizing some of the salient points from recent discussions, I have
tried to outline some of the key decision points.

1. Do you have 110 volt AC available? If no, you have answers to
the wrong questions.

2. Do you care about power consumption? If no, see question 1..

3. Do you use dimmers or motion detectors? If so, do you have
neutral wire switches?

4. Are you concerned about tiny trace amounts of mercury? If yes
you've either been listening to some "off brand" news source, or you
are a true enviro weenie.

5. Are you concerned about getting the exactly correct color
temperature? If so, you'll need to shop a little harder.

6. Do you need absolute "instant on"? If so, are you measuring in
microseconds or milliseconds?

7. How many people will it take to change my CFL bulb? It depends
on which news group you ask the question in, how many people you need
to turn the ladder, and whether or not you live in California and need
to discuss the experience.

Well, I am none of those I just can't find bright enough ones for
indoors for me at all. The light disperses too much, too close to the
bulb or so it seems to me. I have to bring things very close, my office
is always dark, and if I go with anything in a CFL more than 10.0.. er,
I mean, 100.0 watts, it won't fit in my lamps. Thinking of hanging a
couple 8 foot double florescent fixtures in there.

Four footers are enough. If you've got the Winter Blahs....try hanging
Plant Tubes instead. It works magic for the spirit.

Harry, of course will say something nasty, but what does he
know.....sitting alone in his basement all day with only Gumby to suck
on his dick.....

Ahhh yes. We can see how plant tubes have improved your outlook and
disposition.

Comment wasn't even pointed at you. Troll.......

Ahhhh. I see you need more lamp time.

But exactly WHO is Gumby talking to.....his hand????


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