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"jps" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 May 2013 16:37:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


Here's something to read and consider. Set to me by a friend:

The Gun Is Civilization
Written March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos



Living in fear is a choice that he makes. A gun shouldn't be what's
required to eliminate that feeling.

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I suppose that's one way to look at it. He could always "wish" the
bad guys away.

There are other methods to deal with "bad guys" other than killing them.

In article ,
says...

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ...

On 5/17/13 5:45 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 17 May 2013 16:37:45 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


Here's something to read and consider. Set to me by a friend:

The Gun Is Civilization
Written March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos




Living in fear is a choice that he makes. A gun shouldn't be what's
required to eliminate that feeling.

---------------------------------------------------------

I suppose that's one way to look at it. He could always "wish"
the
bad guys away.

Mr. Kloos seems simple-minded to me.

"Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and
force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of
either convincing me via argument or forcing me to do your bidding
under
threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two
categories, without exception."

People often help each other without resorting to convincing via
argument or convincing via force.

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Often people who think too much lose while thinking.

Good point!

On 5/17/2013 7:52 PM, Earl wrote:
amdx wrote:
On 5/17/2013 10:12 AM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:02:37 -0700, jps wrote:


Copied from a commenter responding to the news that a young woman
accidently shot herself dead with her assault rifle...

"I wonder how many times she was able to protect herself from the
hoards of rapists and other monsters who were breaking into her house
to get her before she shot herself in the head with her own assault
weapon. That seems to me to be the key information missing from this
story. In fact, I think that this a key piece of information that
should be included in every damn gun story from now on. How many times
did the gun who just killed a family member protect that family from
the roving gangs of monsters who are regularly busting into homes and
gang raping women and kidnapping babies. How many times did she use
this gun for defense against such enemies before she killed herself
with it. I'm guessing none!"


KMGH-TV described Anastasia Adair as “a new gun enthusiast.”

Not anymore, she's not.

She needed proper training,
here a husband trains his wife.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bFQPECz1x0
Mikek

I've seen that and it is no different than any of the "reality" TV
shows. It was set up in advance.

I kinda thought that also, the way she is looking over the gun with a
funny look, and then the fact that the husband was not in any hurry to
get outside before she stopped holding the gun.
Mikek

On 5/17/2013 4:01 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/17/13 4:53 PM, amdx wrote:
On 5/17/2013 10:12 AM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2013 08:02:37 -0700, jps wrote:


Copied from a commenter responding to the news that a young woman
accidently shot herself dead with her assault rifle...

"I wonder how many times she was able to protect herself from the
hoards of rapists and other monsters who were breaking into her house
to get her before she shot herself in the head with her own assault
weapon. That seems to me to be the key information missing from this
story. In fact, I think that this a key piece of information that
should be included in every damn gun story from now on. How many times
did the gun who just killed a family member protect that family from
the roving gangs of monsters who are regularly busting into homes and
gang raping women and kidnapping babies. How many times did she use
this gun for defense against such enemies before she killed herself
with it. I'm guessing none!"


KMGH-TV described Anastasia Adair as “a new gun enthusiast.”

Not anymore, she's not.

She needed proper training,
here a husband trains his wife.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bFQPECz1x0
Mikek



Anyone who thinks that is funny is an asshole, too.

You are so full of hated, that your words hold no truth.
Mikek

On 5/17/2013 1:37 PM, Eisboch wrote:

The Gun Is Civilization
Written March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos

... I don’t carry it because I’m afraid,
but because it enables me to be unafraid.

If he wasn't afraid he wouldn't carry. I don't.

"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 5/17/2013 1:37 PM, Eisboch wrote:

The Gun Is Civilization
Written March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos

... I don’t carry it because I’m afraid,
but because it enables me to be unafraid.

If he wasn't afraid he wouldn't carry. I don't.

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Entirely your right not to and entirely his right to do so.

On 5/19/13 4:14 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 5/17/2013 1:37 PM, Eisboch wrote:

The Gun Is Civilization
Written March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos

... I don’t carry it because I’m afraid,
but because it enables me to be unafraid.

If he wasn't afraid he wouldn't carry. I don't.

--------------------------------------

Entirely your right not to and entirely his right to do so.




Whether someone has the right to carry is a legal determination.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 5/19/13 4:14 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 5/17/2013 1:37 PM, Eisboch wrote:

The Gun Is Civilization
Written March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos

... I don’t carry it because I’m afraid,
but because it enables me to be unafraid.

If he wasn't afraid he wouldn't carry. I don't.

--------------------------------------

Entirely your right not to and entirely his right to do so.




Whether someone has the right to carry is a legal determination.

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Ok, ok. I can legally carry a gun. Whether I do so or not is my
right to decide.

On 5/19/13 7:56 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 5/19/13 4:14 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 5/17/2013 1:37 PM, Eisboch wrote:

The Gun Is Civilization
Written March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos

... I don’t carry it because I’m afraid,
but because it enables me to be unafraid.

If he wasn't afraid he wouldn't carry. I don't.

--------------------------------------

Entirely your right not to and entirely his right to do so.




Whether someone has the right to carry is a legal determination.

-------------------------------

Ok, ok. I can legally carry a gun. Whether I do so or not is my right
to decide.



Correct. I can legally carry a firearm, too, although I doubt I'll renew
my permits.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 5/19/13 7:56 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 5/19/13 4:14 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"thumper" wrote in message ...

On 5/17/2013 1:37 PM, Eisboch wrote:

The Gun Is Civilization
Written March 23, 2007 by Marko Kloos

... I don’t carry it because I’m afraid,
but because it enables me to be unafraid.

If he wasn't afraid he wouldn't carry. I don't.

--------------------------------------

Entirely your right not to and entirely his right to do so.




Whether someone has the right to carry is a legal determination.

-------------------------------

Ok, ok. I can legally carry a gun. Whether I do so or not is my
right
to decide.



Correct. I can legally carry a firearm, too, although I doubt I'll
renew
my permits.

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Do you think that will make you and the public safer?