You *will* buy an electric car, according to the federal government
and some states, despite the immature technology and lack of
infrastructure to support them.

The pressure isn't directly on the consumer. It's on the auto
industry. Since they can't reduce the cost and resultant price of the
electrics without losing money, the only option left will be to
increase the price of gas and diesel powered vehicles to make the
electrics *seem* more reasonably priced.

Even the much touted Tesla S electrics are only affordable to those
who can drop $70K to essentially a novelty car. What is not
advertised much is the details of Tesla's plans for a more affordable
model which will not have the super expensive, custom made batteries.
The range of the "affordable" model will be more in line with what is
available from manufacturer's of other electric vehicles ... namely
in the 70-80 mile range. Far cry from the 265 mile range with the
batteries that cost Tesla over $20k by themselves for the "S" model.
Tesla has done a superb marketing job. They have created an image of
having advanced technology resulting in extended range. Now that that
image is planted firmly in the minds of the consumer, they will
introduce a more affordable model with a more realistic range that
isn't any better than any other manufacturer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-17/automakers-pressed-to-sell-no-emission-cars-to-reluctant-buyers.html?cmpid=yhoo

In article , says...

You *will* buy an electric car, according to the federal government
and some states, despite the immature technology and lack of
infrastructure to support them.

The pressure isn't directly on the consumer. It's on the auto
industry. Since they can't reduce the cost and resultant price of the
electrics without losing money, the only option left will be to
increase the price of gas and diesel powered vehicles to make the
electrics *seem* more reasonably priced.

Even the much touted Tesla S electrics are only affordable to those
who can drop $70K to essentially a novelty car. What is not
advertised much is the details of Tesla's plans for a more affordable
model which will not have the super expensive, custom made batteries.
The range of the "affordable" model will be more in line with what is
available from manufacturer's of other electric vehicles ... namely
in the 70-80 mile range. Far cry from the 265 mile range with the
batteries that cost Tesla over $20k by themselves for the "S" model.
Tesla has done a superb marketing job. They have created an image of
having advanced technology resulting in extended range. Now that that
image is planted firmly in the minds of the consumer, they will
introduce a more affordable model with a more realistic range that
isn't any better than any other manufacturer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-17/automakers-pressed-to-sell-no-emission-cars-to-reluctant-buyers.html?cmpid=yhoo

My wife was talking to someone the other day and I overheard their conversation. They were
talking about electric and hybrid cars. The auto manufacturers are stating that their
batteries are good for 10 years. My wife, a battery expert, said that Lion batteries are only
good for about 5 years. My wife did some checking and found that the battery packs that are
in the cars are double what they need and that the auto manufacturers are operating under the
belief that if they only use half the capacity of the battery it will last twice as long.

On 6/17/2013 8:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

You *will* buy an electric car, according to the federal government
and some states, despite the immature technology and lack of
infrastructure to support them.

The pressure isn't directly on the consumer. It's on the auto
industry. Since they can't reduce the cost and resultant price of the
electrics without losing money, the only option left will be to
increase the price of gas and diesel powered vehicles to make the
electrics *seem* more reasonably priced.

Even the much touted Tesla S electrics are only affordable to those
who can drop $70K to essentially a novelty car. What is not
advertised much is the details of Tesla's plans for a more affordable
model which will not have the super expensive, custom made batteries.
The range of the "affordable" model will be more in line with what is
available from manufacturer's of other electric vehicles ... namely
in the 70-80 mile range. Far cry from the 265 mile range with the
batteries that cost Tesla over $20k by themselves for the "S" model.
Tesla has done a superb marketing job. They have created an image of
having advanced technology resulting in extended range. Now that that
image is planted firmly in the minds of the consumer, they will
introduce a more affordable model with a more realistic range that
isn't any better than any other manufacturer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-17/automakers-pressed-to-sell-no-emission-cars-to-reluctant-buyers.html?cmpid=yhoo

My wife was talking to someone the other day and I overheard their conversation. They were
talking about electric and hybrid cars. The auto manufacturers are stating that their
batteries are good for 10 years. My wife, a battery expert, said that Lion batteries are only
good for about 5 years. My wife did some checking and found that the battery packs that are
in the cars are double what they need and that the auto manufacturers are operating under the
belief that if they only use half the capacity of the battery it will last twice as long.

Ask your wife about the new technology LION batteries. They are
supposedly good for 2000 cycles and they hold more charge.

In article m,
says...

On 6/17/2013 8:41 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

You *will* buy an electric car, according to the federal government
and some states, despite the immature technology and lack of
infrastructure to support them.

The pressure isn't directly on the consumer. It's on the auto
industry. Since they can't reduce the cost and resultant price of the
electrics without losing money, the only option left will be to
increase the price of gas and diesel powered vehicles to make the
electrics *seem* more reasonably priced.

Even the much touted Tesla S electrics are only affordable to those
who can drop $70K to essentially a novelty car. What is not
advertised much is the details of Tesla's plans for a more affordable
model which will not have the super expensive, custom made batteries.
The range of the "affordable" model will be more in line with what is
available from manufacturer's of other electric vehicles ... namely
in the 70-80 mile range. Far cry from the 265 mile range with the
batteries that cost Tesla over $20k by themselves for the "S" model.
Tesla has done a superb marketing job. They have created an image of
having advanced technology resulting in extended range. Now that that
image is planted firmly in the minds of the consumer, they will
introduce a more affordable model with a more realistic range that
isn't any better than any other manufacturer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-17/automakers-pressed-to-sell-no-emission-cars-to-reluctant-buyers.html?cmpid=yhoo

My wife was talking to someone the other day and I overheard their conversation. They were
talking about electric and hybrid cars. The auto manufacturers are stating that their
batteries are good for 10 years. My wife, a battery expert, said that Lion batteries are only
good for about 5 years. My wife did some checking and found that the battery packs that are
in the cars are double what they need and that the auto manufacturers are operating under the
belief that if they only use half the capacity of the battery it will last twice as long.

Ask your wife about the new technology LION batteries. They are
supposedly good for 2000 cycles and they hold more charge.

If you drive and charge your car each day you will amass 2000 cycles in about 5 years.

On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 05:03:19 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

You *will* buy an electric car, according to the federal government
and some states, despite the immature technology and lack of
infrastructure to support them.

The pressure isn't directly on the consumer. It's on the auto
industry. Since they can't reduce the cost and resultant price of the
electrics without losing money, the only option left will be to
increase the price of gas and diesel powered vehicles to make the
electrics *seem* more reasonably priced.

Even the much touted Tesla S electrics are only affordable to those
who can drop $70K to essentially a novelty car. What is not
advertised much is the details of Tesla's plans for a more affordable
model which will not have the super expensive, custom made batteries.
The range of the "affordable" model will be more in line with what is
available from manufacturer's of other electric vehicles ... namely
in the 70-80 mile range. Far cry from the 265 mile range with the
batteries that cost Tesla over $20k by themselves for the "S" model.
Tesla has done a superb marketing job. They have created an image of
having advanced technology resulting in extended range. Now that that
image is planted firmly in the minds of the consumer, they will
introduce a more affordable model with a more realistic range that
isn't any better than any other manufacturer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-17/automakers-pressed-to-sell-no-emission-cars-to-reluctant-buyers.html?cmpid=yhoo


Well, I sure hope the electric car I'm forced to buy can tow a 10,200 lb trailer!

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On Jun 17, 5:03*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
You *will* buy an electric car, according to the federal government
and some states, despite the immature technology and lack of
infrastructure to support them.

The pressure isn't directly on the consumer. *It's on the auto
industry. *Since they can't reduce the cost and resultant price of the
electrics without losing money, the only option left will be to
increase the price of gas and diesel powered vehicles to make the
electrics *seem* more reasonably priced.

Even the much touted Tesla S *electrics are only affordable to those
who can drop $70K to essentially a novelty car. *What is not
advertised much is the details of Tesla's plans for a more affordable
model which will not have the super expensive, custom made batteries.
The range of the "affordable" model will be more in line with what is
available from manufacturer's of *other electric vehicles ... namely
in the 70-80 mile range. * Far cry from the 265 mile range with the
batteries that cost Tesla over $20k by themselves for the "S" model.
Tesla has done a superb marketing job. *They have created an image of
having advanced technology resulting in extended range. *Now that that
image is planted firmly in the minds of the consumer, they will
introduce a more affordable model with a more realistic range that
isn't any better than any other manufacturer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-17/automakers-pressed-to-sell-n...

Go buy your Wife a battery-operated DILDO, ASS****