On 7/2/13 5:26 PM, True North wrote:
Let's just hope that the end result doesn't deteriorate into a Rodney King type situation.



Are you referring to the four cops who beat the crap out of King being
found not guilty of doing same or the riots that resulted from the
miscarriage of justice?

I was thinking of the possibility of unrest if Zimmerman walks.

On 7/2/13 4:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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This trial has gotten SO political and it's a damned shame. No matter
what the outcome, there is going to be a large percentage of people
who
aren't happy with it.

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Similar but different from the O.J. Simpson trial. That one had
external forces applying influence but it wasn't necessarily racial or
political.

I'm not really sure WHAT that was!


OJ's lawyers totally overwhelmed the state's prosecutors, and the facts
that the defense was able to show that some evidence was mishandled,
that at least one of the cops intimately involved in the case was an
avowed racist and engaged in shenanigans with some of the evidence and
then "took the fifth" about it, and a number of other factors resulted
in a not guilty verdict.

If Zimmerman walks, it won't be because he stalked a young man,
instigated a fight and, when it wasn't going his way, whipped out his
pistol and shot and killed the young man. It'll be because the trial
took place in a gun-happy state.

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So now the court is in a 15 minute break. The MSNBC crew are all
excitedly discussing this "conflicting expert testimony" and about
how the doc said Zimmerman only got hit a couple of times.

You gotta be kidding me.

http://newsone.com/2001237/trayvon-martin-zimmerman-
guilty/
It's nearly all racial/ethnic. Blacks on TV universally
cast the worst light on anything about Zimmerman.
CNN black "analysts/commentators" do it too.
Same with the rabid anti-gun whites.
Some whites blindly support Zimmerman because he's white.
"Normal" people who rely on the scales of justice being
fair and impartial are disturbed that justice is being
made a circus by the racists and other nut jobs.
Not too much different than the OJ trial.
Personally, I think both shooter and victim were punks.
I'll go with the trial outcome.
But I can't see any way in the world that "depraved
mind" can be proved against Zimmerman - unless the jury
is incompetent. And that wouldn't surprise me at all.
They might find him guilty of manslaughter.
I wouldn't, given the evidence I've seen.
Seems clearly self-defense from all evidence I've heard.
But the selected jury will decide.
That's all that matters, barring appeals.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 6:35:53 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:

Some whites blindly support Zimmerman because he's white.

Zimm is not white.

In article 5eabcc79-3807-406c-a518-219aaab086d9
@googlegroups.com, says...

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 6:35:53 PM UTC-4, Boating All Out wrote:

Some whites blindly support Zimmerman because he's white.

Zimm is not white.

Looks like you just got off the boat.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:03:57 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

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Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. I am

fascinated with the trial. What I am noticing big time is the

presumption of guilt by some of the liberal media and their possible

attempts to keep information that may conflict with their attitudes

away from viewers. I confess, I haven't watched Fox News to see

what

their slant is, if any. Maybe I'll do that for a while and see if

their coverage is equally biased the other way.



There's also a lot of presumption of innocent by the conservatives,

too.



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You are *supposed* to be presumed innocent until found guilty beyond a

reasonable doubt.

But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial.

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:00:36 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 7/2/13 4:23 PM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,

says...



"iBoaterer" wrote in message

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This trial has gotten SO political and it's a damned shame. No matter

what the outcome, there is going to be a large percentage of people

who

aren't happy with it.



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Similar but different from the O.J. Simpson trial. That one had

external forces applying influence but it wasn't necessarily racial or

political.



I'm not really sure WHAT that was!





OJ's lawyers totally overwhelmed the state's prosecutors, and the facts

that the defense was able to show that some evidence was mishandled,

that at least one of the cops intimately involved in the case was an

avowed racist and engaged in shenanigans with some of the evidence and

then "took the fifth" about it, and a number of other factors resulted

in a not guilty verdict.



If Zimmerman walks, it won't be because he stalked a young man,

instigated a fight and, when it wasn't going his way, whipped out his

pistol and shot and killed the young man. It'll be because the trial

took place in a gun-happy state.

"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the word 'go'. No need for a trial. "

On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:46:46 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet.


"But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial. "

On 7/3/13 6:07 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:03:57 PM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

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In article ,

says...







Personally, I haven't "lined up" with either side yet. I am

fascinated with the trial. What I am noticing big time is the

presumption of guilt by some of the liberal media and their possible

attempts to keep information that may conflict with their attitudes

away from viewers. I confess, I haven't watched Fox News to see

what

their slant is, if any. Maybe I'll do that for a while and see if

their coverage is equally biased the other way.



There's also a lot of presumption of innocent by the conservatives,

too.



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You are *supposed* to be presumed innocent until found guilty beyond a

reasonable doubt.

But, Harry. you're pronounced Zimmerman guilty from the world 'go'. No need for a trial.


The pronouncements of those who are not the judge or jury don't matter.
I think Zimmerman is guilty of a violent criminal offense that resulted
from his actions alone, but I also know that the offense took place in
Redneckville, Florida, that the victim was black, and most of the jury
is white, so I don't expect Zimmerman to be found guilty.