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On 7/16/2013 1:34 PM, Eisboch wrote:


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On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:42:25 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
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The kid was a thug, and he died because of it and nothing else...


It is clear he was on a track (statistically) to die, young, in a
pool
of blood anyway. (black, school failure from a broken home and an
increasing criminal record)

The only anomaly was that a white guy shot him.
If it was just another black guy doing the shooting, this would not
have even made the news and it is likely nobody would have been
charged.

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I disagree with your assertion of Martin having an "increasing
criminal
record". He doesn't have a criminal police record period.
He was under suspension from school for having some pot residue in
his
locker, but he doesn't have a criminal police record.



He was "under suspicion" for a lot more than that... but I am not
doing
your homework for you... then add what he "admitted freely", you know
the thousand pieces of evidence the prosecution kept from us until
after
the defense closed it's case, you have a clear picture of exactly what
Treyvon was all about.

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Relax. All I said was that he does *not* have a criminal police
record.


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On 7/16/13 1:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 7/16/2013 1:12 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:21:54 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...


"These assholes always get away". Yep, meek and timid.
Answer to "are you following him"..... "YES". Very meek.
He DID go after him.

They were about 10-15 feet apart when he first saw Martin. If he was
"going after" Martin, the confrontation would have happened several
feet from the front gate, 15 seconds later not down in the middle of
the community 4 minutes later..
It is clear he tried to keep his distance and "watch" Martin until the
police arrived.


And the ****ing bragging days earlier about some guy he beat the ****
out of and saying "the next guy won't get off so easy", the films on his
phone of his friends gang beating a homeless man..


Cite that.


Asll we would need to
do is find out which one of his freinds was filming when he got in on
it.. The kid was by his own words a fighter and a badass, he proved it
every day and he got killed for it... period...


So, a kid gets into a fight at school he needs to be killed, got it.



My guess is that Snotty got into more fights at school and since school
than Martin ever did. Snotty likes to present himself here as a tough
guy. The reality is that he probably snuck into the girls' locker room
at junior high once, and the gals beat the crap out of him.
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On 7/16/2013 1:47 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 7/16/2013 1:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:21:54 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...


"These assholes always get away". Yep, meek and timid.
Answer to "are you following him"..... "YES". Very meek.
He DID go after him.


They were about 10-15 feet apart when he first saw Martin. If he
was
"going after" Martin, the confrontation would have happened several
feet from the front gate, 15 seconds later not down in the middle
of
the community 4 minutes later..
It is clear he tried to keep his distance and "watch" Martin until
the
police arrived.


And the ****ing bragging days earlier about some guy he beat the
****
out of and saying "the next guy won't get off so easy", the films on
his
phone of his friends gang beating a homeless man.. Asll we would
need to
do is find out which one of his freinds was filming when he got in
on
it.. The kid was by his own words a fighter and a badass, he proved
it
every day and he got killed for it... period...


The kid's dead Zimm's free. What good will come out of dredging up
Martin's history.

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It will only be important if a civil "wrongful death" suit is filed.
In that event character witnesses and evidence would be permissible in
court, unlike the criminal trial.

Same with the federal charges of civil rights violations and racial
profiling that Sharpton is running around screaming for. I think
it's very doubtful it will ever happen unless pure political pressure
is applied. The FBI has already interviewed about 38-44 people that
knew Zimmerman looking for any evidence that he was a racist and had
hate and contempt for blacks. Zero. To the contrary, there's
abundant evidence that he was quite the opposite.
All of that would come into play in a federal case.




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On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:15:02 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:58:44 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Here's my take on the Zimmerman/Martin thing.

Zimmerman is a well intentioned law enforcement wannabe civilian who
overstepped the boundaries of the recommended procedures established
in the "Neighborhood Crime Watch" organizational structure,
established in concert with the local police department. What he
did was not illegal, but was contrary to recommended procedure
recommended by the Neighborhood Crime Watch representative from the
police department. (She is also a civilian and not a cop).

Really doesn't matter when he left his car or if he "followed" Martin.
Both actions are not illegal.

When he confronted Martin, some words were exchanged. Martin then
clobbered Zimmerman with a haymaker to the nose.

Zimmerman fell to the ground, Martin jumped on top of him and either
threw some more punches and/or started smacking Zimmerman's head on
the concrete.

Zimmerman tried to resist and started screaming for help.

The beating continued. Zimmerman found his gun and shot
Martin.

Martin fell backwards and then onto the ground.

That's it.

The rest of the bull**** being promoted in the media with regard to
race issues, hate crime, etc., is nothing but that ..... pure
bull****.

I agree, and like I've said all along, I would have fought back as well
if Zimmerman had confronted me in a threatening manner. Why do I think
it was in a threatening manner, you'll ask? Because of the tone of the
call to dispatch.


No evidence Zimmerman confronted Martin at all.

John (Gun Nut) H.


You didn't listen to the phone call did you?


No phone call was evidence that Zimmerman confronted Martin.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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