On 8/24/13 1:22 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:11:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/24/13 12:03 PM, wrote:

The military (non licensed) practitioners are very limited in what
they are allowed to do on US soil so you can't blame them. The flaws
in the US based military centers can be placed on licensed
professionals or the politicians, your choice.
VA facilities are all ruled by civilian law and practice. I was the
inspector on the VA hospital in Port Charlotte and it was a STATE
project. (or I would not have been there)



Sorry, I don't believe that the reason returning vets with serious
physical and emotional problems are not treated properly by veterans
hospitals is because of "civilian law and practice."

Oh, and "non-licensed" medical practitioners should be severely limited
as to what they are allowed to do on U.S. soil in medical or related
fields.

You really are a fan of the home hobbyist approach. If you ever need a
stent, I hope you find the right non-licensed, non-doctor Army/Navy/Air
Force tech to perform the surgery for you.


We are not talking about a stent or open heart surgery here. If I just
need a few stitches or some other kind of emergency care I would be
perfectly happy with a guy who was patching up marines, injured in
combat as I would some guy who went to a Guatemala medical school and
got licensed here.


Some of us have higher standards for the medical practitioners we allow
to work on us.

On 8/24/13 12:03 PM, wrote:

The military (non licensed) practitioners are very limited in what
they are allowed to do on US soil so you can't blame them. The
flaws
in the US based military centers can be placed on licensed
professionals or the politicians, your choice.
VA facilities are all ruled by civilian law and practice. I was the
inspector on the VA hospital in Port Charlotte and it was a STATE
project. (or I would not have been there)



Sorry, I don't believe that the reason returning vets with serious
physical and emotional problems are not treated properly by veterans
hospitals is because of "civilian law and practice."

Oh, and "non-licensed" medical practitioners should be severely
limited
as to what they are allowed to do on U.S. soil in medical or related
fields.

You really are a fan of the home hobbyist approach. If you ever need
a
stent, I hope you find the right non-licensed, non-doctor
Army/Navy/Air
Force tech to perform the surgery for you.


We are not talking about a stent or open heart surgery here. If I just
need a few stitches or some other kind of emergency care I would be
perfectly happy with a guy who was patching up marines, injured in
combat as I would some guy who went to a Guatemala medical school and
got licensed here.

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Notes to self:

If you happen to be in a restaurant and notice Harry choking, do
*not* attempt the Heimlich maneuver.
(you are not medically qualified by degree)

If you happen to come upon an automobile accident and find Harry
injured and bleeding, do *not* attempt to administer first aid.
(you are not medically qualified by degree)

If you happen to see Harry suddenly clutch his chest and drop to the
ground unconscious, do *not* attempt CPR.
(you are not medically qualified by degree)

Best to just leave Harry be. If you successfully save his life and
he finds out you are not medically qualified by degree, he'll probably
sue.

On 8/24/13 2:08 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


On 8/24/13 12:03 PM, wrote:

The military (non licensed) practitioners are very limited in what
they are allowed to do on US soil so you can't blame them. The flaws
in the US based military centers can be placed on licensed
professionals or the politicians, your choice.
VA facilities are all ruled by civilian law and practice. I was the
inspector on the VA hospital in Port Charlotte and it was a STATE
project. (or I would not have been there)



Sorry, I don't believe that the reason returning vets with serious
physical and emotional problems are not treated properly by veterans
hospitals is because of "civilian law and practice."

Oh, and "non-licensed" medical practitioners should be severely limited
as to what they are allowed to do on U.S. soil in medical or related
fields.

You really are a fan of the home hobbyist approach. If you ever need a
stent, I hope you find the right non-licensed, non-doctor Army/Navy/Air
Force tech to perform the surgery for you.


We are not talking about a stent or open heart surgery here. If I just
need a few stitches or some other kind of emergency care I would be
perfectly happy with a guy who was patching up marines, injured in
combat as I would some guy who went to a Guatemala medical school and
got licensed here.

----------------------------------------

Notes to self:

If you happen to be in a restaurant and notice Harry choking, do *not*
attempt the Heimlich maneuver.
(you are not medically qualified by degree)

If you happen to come upon an automobile accident and find Harry injured
and bleeding, do *not* attempt to administer first aid.
(you are not medically qualified by degree)

If you happen to see Harry suddenly clutch his chest and drop to the
ground unconscious, do *not* attempt CPR.
(you are not medically qualified by degree)

Best to just leave Harry be. If you successfully save his life and he
finds out you are not medically qualified by degree, he'll probably sue.




My estate will.

On Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:56:26 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Some of us have higher standards for the medical practitioners we allow

to work on us.

Is that why you don't get those open pustules on your rotting corpse fixed???

True North wrote:
Too bad it wasn't a national initiative and enforced in all the states.
If you are referring to the MA gun law proposals, what does that have to
do with you?

BAR wrote:
In article , says...
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:59:27 -0400, John H
wrote:

Beautiful gun. Nice price.

http://tinyurl.com/ls8jvo5

John (Gun Nut) H.
That is a lot of gun to carry.
Kimber does make a nice mini 9mm that my neighbor has. It is $1500 or
so.
I am looking at a couple of Sig's, P239 and P938, a Beretta Nano and the gun I have always
wanted a Colt Mustang .380.
Check out the S&W Bodyguard, too.

"Earl" wrote in message
...

BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:59:27 -0400, John H
wrote:

Beautiful gun. Nice price.

http://tinyurl.com/ls8jvo5

John (Gun Nut) H.
That is a lot of gun to carry.
Kimber does make a nice mini 9mm that my neighbor has. It is $1500
or
so.
I am looking at a couple of Sig's, P239 and P938, a Beretta Nano and
the gun I have always
wanted a Colt Mustang .380.

Check out the S&W Bodyguard, too.

----------------------------------

I have a S&W Bodyguard 380. As the name suggests, it's a close up,
self defense pistol only and not something you'd go to the target
range with except maybe to practice at 7 yards or so. Double action
only with an excessively long, 10 lb. trigger pull as it comes from
the factory. It took me a while to adjust for the tendency to shoot
low because of the long trigger pull.

It's also a pain in the rear to break down for cleaning because of the
weird little lever/pin that must be positioned and manipulated in
exactly the right way in order to re-assemble. I've had mine apart
many times and still have difficulty sometimes getting it back
together properly.

Despite it's drawbacks, I still like it. It's small, light and is
easily concealed if you carry. The long trigger pull and lack of an
exposed hammer makes it a very safe carry pistol. I bought a pocket
holster for it and on the few occasions that I carry, I just stick it
in my pants pocket.

On Sunday, August 25, 2013 1:46:46 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Despite it's drawbacks, I still like it. It's small, light and is

easily concealed if you carry. The long trigger pull and lack of an

exposed hammer makes it a very safe carry pistol. I bought a pocket

holster for it and on the few occasions that I carry, I just stick it

in my pants pocket.


Do me a favour, ****....shoot yourself in that fat head of yours.

In article , says...

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:11:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/24/13 12:03 PM, wrote:

The military (non licensed) practitioners are very limited in what
they are allowed to do on US soil so you can't blame them. The flaws
in the US based military centers can be placed on licensed
professionals or the politicians, your choice.
VA facilities are all ruled by civilian law and practice. I was the
inspector on the VA hospital in Port Charlotte and it was a STATE
project. (or I would not have been there)



Sorry, I don't believe that the reason returning vets with serious
physical and emotional problems are not treated properly by veterans
hospitals is because of "civilian law and practice."

Oh, and "non-licensed" medical practitioners should be severely limited
as to what they are allowed to do on U.S. soil in medical or related
fields.

You really are a fan of the home hobbyist approach. If you ever need a
stent, I hope you find the right non-licensed, non-doctor Army/Navy/Air
Force tech to perform the surgery for you.


We are not talking about a stent or open heart surgery here. If I just
need a few stitches or some other kind of emergency care I would be
perfectly happy with a guy who was patching up marines, injured in
combat as I would some guy who went to a Guatemala medical school and
got licensed here.

When I was a youth, living outside of Ft Belvior in Northern Virginia, we would go to DeWitt
Army Hospital and if you needed stiches you had your pick of a half dozen Medic's, Army guys,
to stitch you up. They were eager to actually stitch up real live flesh.

On 8/25/2013 9:07 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 12:11:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 8/24/13 12:03 PM, wrote:

The military (non licensed) practitioners are very limited in what
they are allowed to do on US soil so you can't blame them. The flaws
in the US based military centers can be placed on licensed
professionals or the politicians, your choice.
VA facilities are all ruled by civilian law and practice. I was the
inspector on the VA hospital in Port Charlotte and it was a STATE
project. (or I would not have been there)



Sorry, I don't believe that the reason returning vets with serious
physical and emotional problems are not treated properly by veterans
hospitals is because of "civilian law and practice."

Oh, and "non-licensed" medical practitioners should be severely limited
as to what they are allowed to do on U.S. soil in medical or related
fields.

You really are a fan of the home hobbyist approach. If you ever need a
stent, I hope you find the right non-licensed, non-doctor Army/Navy/Air
Force tech to perform the surgery for you.


We are not talking about a stent or open heart surgery here. If I just
need a few stitches or some other kind of emergency care I would be
perfectly happy with a guy who was patching up marines, injured in
combat as I would some guy who went to a Guatemala medical school and
got licensed here.

When I was a youth, living outside of Ft Belvior in Northern Virginia, we would go to DeWitt
Army Hospital and if you needed stiches you had your pick of a half dozen Medic's, Army guys,
to stitch you up. They were eager to actually stitch up real live flesh.


On a slightly different note.. Before I was born the neighbor kid broke
his arm in our back yard on a rock that is not listed on our insurance
as a "attractive nusence (sp?)". His parents weren't home so my dad
loaded him up, took him off to emergency, paid 15 dollars and had a cast
put on the kid, delivered him to his parents when they came home from
work...... no lawyers, no problem.... Try that now