On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:48:32 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:28:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 11:03 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 10:40:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Let me guess, you two know more than this guy, right?

http://tinyurl.com/qf77s3q

One paragraph:

Those comments really get on my nerves. And they?re flat out wrong. I
served with a few Legionnaires and a lot of regular French troops.
Whatever the French public?s or government?s politics are, their
soldiers are brave, well-trained, in fantastic shape and aggressive.
Describing those men as cowards is an absolutely unfair
characterization.

SIX WEEKS

That is how long it took the Germans to take France

When the US allowed the French army to march back into Paris the
French had to scramble to find white faces because most of the "Free
French" army was actually Easy Africans.
It ended up being over half African.

Are there some brave French men? I'm sure there are but as a national
policy, not so much.

From the Wiki

"n February 2012, after an Afghan soldier shot and killed four French
soldiers in eastern Afghanistan, French president Nicolas Sarkozy
threatened to suspend French operations in Afghanistan.[4] The newly
elected president Francois Hollande, announced in June 2012 that he
would be withdrawing 2,000 of France's 3,400 troops in Afghanistan,
leaving 1,400 for training and logistics.[5] In November 2012,
France's combat troops were withdrawn from Afghanistan, leaving just
the logistical contingent in the country. [6]"


Instead of your second-hand whining about the French, perhaps you and
the other military heroes here can tell us about your heroic exploits
under enemy fire.

All of my "enemy fire" was on the streets of DC but I did volunteer to
go to Vietnam twice in 1965. It wasn't my choice that they said no.

I would think you should applaud my choice to try to save lives in the
USCG but, alas hey thought bouncing around in the North Atlantic
looking for Russian subs was more important.
It was my fault for doing too well on the tests I guess.

I was once within a week of going out on a destroyer out of San Diego. Making a play in baseball, I
cracked a kneecap and broke a metacarpal in my left hand, both of which required casts. Guess what,
the XO of the destroyer said I couldn't go for my ride with casts on an arm and leg.

That was my one and only chance. I'd have loved it.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:59:17 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:28:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 11:03 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Sep 2013 10:40:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


Let me guess, you two know more than this guy, right?

http://tinyurl.com/qf77s3q

One paragraph:

Those comments really get on my nerves. And they?re flat out wrong. I
served with a few Legionnaires and a lot of regular French troops.
Whatever the French public?s or government?s politics are, their
soldiers are brave, well-trained, in fantastic shape and aggressive.
Describing those men as cowards is an absolutely unfair
characterization.

SIX WEEKS

That is how long it took the Germans to take France

When the US allowed the French army to march back into Paris the
French had to scramble to find white faces because most of the "Free
French" army was actually Easy Africans.
It ended up being over half African.

Are there some brave French men? I'm sure there are but as a national
policy, not so much.

From the Wiki

"n February 2012, after an Afghan soldier shot and killed four French
soldiers in eastern Afghanistan, French president Nicolas Sarkozy
threatened to suspend French operations in Afghanistan.[4] The newly
elected president Francois Hollande, announced in June 2012 that he
would be withdrawing 2,000 of France's 3,400 troops in Afghanistan,
leaving 1,400 for training and logistics.[5] In November 2012,
France's combat troops were withdrawn from Afghanistan, leaving just
the logistical contingent in the country. [6]"


Instead of your second-hand whining about the French, perhaps you and
the other military heroes here can tell us about your heroic exploits
under enemy fire.

All of my "enemy fire" was on the streets of DC but I did volunteer to
go to Vietnam twice in 1965. It wasn't my choice that they said no.

I would think you should applaud my choice to try to save lives in the
USCG but, alas hey thought bouncing around in the North Atlantic
looking for Russian subs was more important.
It was my fault for doing too well on the tests I guess.


The point is, you are whining second hand about the bravery of soldiers
and the sort of military action you never saw. There's been a long meme
about the lack of bravery of French soldiers, and most of it is based
upon circumstances that bear little resemblance to reality. Through
toughness and brutality, the French military held on to several of its
"colonies" long after most other nations would have packed up and left.

I don't fault the French for pulling out of Afghanistan. Military
adventurism there is folly.

No one is whining. Loogy is trying, in vain, to convince folks that the French are, and have always
been, glorious fighters.

Tell us all about the courage of the French in the taking and holding of several of its 'colonies'.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 12:10:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 10:55:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Let me guess, you two know more than this guy, right?

http://tinyurl.com/qf77s3q

One paragraph:

Those comments really get on my nerves. And they?re flat out wrong. I
served with a few Legionnaires and a lot of regular French troops.
Whatever the French public?s or government?s politics are, their
soldiers are brave, well-trained, in fantastic shape and aggressive.
Describing those men as cowards is an absolutely unfair
characterization.



Herring's wartime soldiering ended the same way the French soldier's
did...by pulling out of Vietnam. If memory serves, Fretwell was in the
Coast Guard. Bert Robbins served stateside. The only action flajim saw
was in a whore bar in Manilla. The four mouse-keteers.

We showed up at the recruiter and stuck our neck out. You were still
hiding behind your 2-S thinking, service for your country was for
suckers. Thanks for pitching in.


My student classification ended when I got my B.A., and though I
informed it of my whereabouts, I never got a "you've been reclassified,
report for a pre-induction physical" letter. I saw no reason to support
a massive war against Vietnam then or now. The Vietnamese were no threat
to the United States, and no matter what happened, they weren't going to
be parachuting troops into Topeka.

Had I been drafted, I would have reported as ordered. But I wasn't. I
got to go to Vietnam anyway. It was a beautiful country...too bad we
bombed the crap out of it and used chemical warfare on it.

Thanks for your support, if you did what you say you did.

John (Gun Nut) H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

On 9/1/13 12:24 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 12:10:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 12:03 PM, wrote:

We showed up at the recruiter and stuck our neck out. You were still
hiding behind your 2-S thinking, service for your country was for
suckers. Thanks for pitching in.


My student classification ended when I got my B.A., and though I
informed it of my whereabouts, I never got a "you've been reclassified,
report for a pre-induction physical" letter. I saw no reason to support
The Vietnamese were no threat
to the United States, and no matter what happened, they weren't going to
be parachuting troops into Topeka.


Neither are the Syrians

Had I been drafted, I would have reported as ordered.

What did you get classified as after your 2-S went away and why did
it? I thought you went to grad school.


Not immediately. I worked at the newspaper for at least a year and a
half before I snared a fellowship. As I said, I simply never heard from
my draft board again, even though I was careful to inform it of my
changes in address via certified or registered mail. That is all the law
required.

On 9/1/2013 12:10 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/1/13 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 10:55:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Let me guess, you two know more than this guy, right?

http://tinyurl.com/qf77s3q

One paragraph:

Those comments really get on my nerves. And they?re flat out wrong. I
served with a few Legionnaires and a lot of regular French troops.
Whatever the French public?s or government?s politics are, their
soldiers are brave, well-trained, in fantastic shape and aggressive.
Describing those men as cowards is an absolutely unfair
characterization.



Herring's wartime soldiering ended the same way the French soldier's
did...by pulling out of Vietnam. If memory serves, Fretwell was in the
Coast Guard. Bert Robbins served stateside. The only action flajim saw
was in a whore bar in Manilla. The four mouse-keteers.

We showed up at the recruiter and stuck our neck out. You were still
hiding behind your 2-S thinking, service for your country was for
suckers. Thanks for pitching in.


My student classification ended when I got my B.A., and though I
informed it of my whereabouts, I never got a "you've been reclassified,
report for a pre-induction physical" letter. I saw no reason to support
a massive war against Vietnam then or now. The Vietnamese were no threat
to the United States, and no matter what happened, they weren't going to
be parachuting troops into Topeka.

Had I been drafted, I would have reported as ordered. But I wasn't. I
got to go to Vietnam anyway. It was a beautiful country...too bad we
bombed the crap out of it and used chemical warfare on it.

"You got to go". Was it a deal you made to do alternative service? Or
are you just feeding us your usual ration of bull****?

On 9/1/13 1:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 12:45:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 12:24 PM, wrote:

What did you get classified as after your 2-S went away and why did
it? I thought you went to grad school.


Not immediately. I worked at the newspaper for at least a year and a
half before I snared a fellowship. As I said, I simply never heard from
my draft board again, even though I was careful to inform it of my
changes in address via certified or registered mail. That is all the law
required.

You must have slipped through a crack. The 2 guys I know who graduated
from college in 68 where drafted before Christmas.
One went to VN, the other snagged a gig in Germany.


Well, I had the receipts from my "I've moved" letters to my local draft
board, and kept them for two decades. I complied with the regulation at
the time. I felt no need to investigate further.

I think I mentioned once before here that very few of the guys in my
high school graduating class were drafted. I attended a few high school
reunions and, at least at the early ones, we could account for pretty
much everyone.

On 9/1/2013 12:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 12:10:34 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 10:55:30 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/1/13 10:40 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

Let me guess, you two know more than this guy, right?

http://tinyurl.com/qf77s3q

One paragraph:

Those comments really get on my nerves. And they?re flat out wrong. I
served with a few Legionnaires and a lot of regular French troops.
Whatever the French public?s or government?s politics are, their
soldiers are brave, well-trained, in fantastic shape and aggressive.
Describing those men as cowards is an absolutely unfair
characterization.



Herring's wartime soldiering ended the same way the French soldier's
did...by pulling out of Vietnam. If memory serves, Fretwell was in the
Coast Guard. Bert Robbins served stateside. The only action flajim saw
was in a whore bar in Manilla. The four mouse-keteers.

We showed up at the recruiter and stuck our neck out. You were still
hiding behind your 2-S thinking, service for your country was for
suckers. Thanks for pitching in.


My student classification ended when I got my B.A., and though I
informed it of my whereabouts, I never got a "you've been reclassified,
report for a pre-induction physical" letter. I saw no reason to support
a massive war against Vietnam then or now. The Vietnamese were no threat
to the United States, and no matter what happened, they weren't going to
be parachuting troops into Topeka.

Had I been drafted, I would have reported as ordered. But I wasn't. I
got to go to Vietnam anyway. It was a beautiful country...too bad we
bombed the crap out of it and used chemical warfare on it.

Thanks for your support, if you did what you say you did.

John (Gun Nut) H.


I graduated high school and turned 18 in '76 so I missed Vietnam...
Tried to get into the service twice, different story. Anyway, my view as
a high school student was that we were there to keep the Russians from
owning that piece of real estate and thus, all the real estate around
it, Laos, Cambodia, etc... That is what I thought we were fighting for
over there.... based on what I knew as a typical kid from the East Coast....

On Sunday, September 1, 2013 10:40:49 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

Those comments really get on my nerves. And they?re flat out wrong. I

served with a few Legionnaires and a lot of regular French troops.

Whatever the French public?s or government?s politics are, their

soldiers are brave, well-trained, in fantastic shape and aggressive.

Describing those men as cowards is an absolutely unfair

characterization.


You must have some faggy French relations....Bayou inbreds obviously.

On Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:28:19 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Instead of your second-hand whining about the French, perhaps you and

the other military heroes here can tell us about your heroic exploits

under enemy fire.

....and then...YOU could tell us about your Dads " Fireboat Welcome ".....you lying ****.

On Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:10:34 PM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Had I been drafted, I would have reported as ordered. But I wasn't. I

got to go to Vietnam anyway. It was a beautiful country...too bad we

bombed the crap out of it and used chemical warfare on it.

So you stayed in school, and HID from the draft...

What a ****ing cowardly LOSER.