On 9/21/13 8:16 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 7:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/20/2013 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:


Funny...Wayne has NO idea WHAT is involved in being a Truck
Driver.

$50,000 is **** wages, considering you have to feed yourself
while out on
the road. That is deducted off the top line, leaving you ****
all really.
Truck Companies DONT give a **** if you have a Family, they
just want the
**** going down the road.

He should find himself a job..

The truck driver has to feed himself each day, wether he is
driving or
watching Oprah.


Do you seriously not understand the difference in dollars, buying
prepared food on the road, or cooking your own at home? When we go
racing, we easily save $50 bucks a day by brown bagging compared
to other
teams... It's a lot different working and living on the road and
trying
to eat well, than it is stuffing in carbs on vacation or on a
long weekend...

You travel for business, you learn to eat reasonable. You do not
go out to
the 3 star eateries.

Do you ever leave home? What is the cheapest decent meal you can find on
the road? What do you actually consider "reasonable" compared to the
average 4 dollars or so per meal Jess and I can "brown bag" on the road?





Traveling for business and driving a long-haul truck on the
interstates
doesn't mean you eat at the same places. The truck drivers are pretty
much limited to eating at truck stops, where their rigs can be parked,
fueled, accommodated. Some truck stops offer a wide variety of food
and
some have that food at decent prices but even so, eating three hots
a day
while driving a big rig isn't inexpensive. If you are driving your
car,
you can easily get off the interstate and find the kind of place you'd
prefer to eat that will accommodate you and your car. On the
interstates
around here, "Cracker Barrel" restaurants seem very popular at all
three
meal times, but you rarely see the big truck rigs in their parking
lots
because those lots are not built to handle those sorts of vehicles. A
decent meal at Cracker Barrel runs $10-$12, easily. A similar meal
at a
truck stop likely is more expensive.

Cite.


LOL,

I probably travel more than you. And over the years traveled a lot for
business. Business travel included an expense account, but I still
did not
overspend for meals. I am well to do, and still eat at diners and truck
stops. Driving a crew cab pickup and towing 25' of trailer, makes
parking
a chore. I still get out for $20 for two of us most the time. Seems
as if
there are a lot of truckers on the road, surviving well on their pay.
But
more are needed. But seems as if a lot of people figure society will
take
care of them. Pay their medical bills, pay their rent, food stamps and
welfare payments to eat from.



Two people, twenty bucks, three times a day does not work for a working
slob who doesn't have an expense account and won't be home in his warm
bed on Thursday night.... The point is, you spend ten dollars a meal
when you are on the road all the time, and it's much more expensive than
eating at home cooking your own meals... Why is that so difficult for
you to understand? 60 dollars a day is what your *expense
account* spent, instead of 15-18 or so when we brown bag it and we eat
better than anybody at the track....


I don't know where this thread started, but being a long-distance hauler
is a really job with crappy pay, considering the hours, the dead time,
and the money you have to put out to sustain yourself on the road.

skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 7:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/20/2013 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:


Funny...Wayne has NO idea WHAT is involved in being a Truck Driver.

$50,000 is **** wages, considering you have to feed yourself while out on
the road. That is deducted off the top line, leaving you **** all really.
Truck Companies DONT give a **** if you have a Family, they just want the
**** going down the road.

He should find himself a job..

The truck driver has to feed himself each day, wether he is driving or
watching Oprah.


Do you seriously not understand the difference in dollars, buying
prepared food on the road, or cooking your own at home? When we go
racing, we easily save $50 bucks a day by brown bagging compared to other
teams... It's a lot different working and living on the road and trying
to eat well, than it is stuffing in carbs on vacation or on a long weekend...

You travel for business, you learn to eat reasonable. You do not go out to
the 3 star eateries.

Do you ever leave home? What is the cheapest decent meal you can find on
the road? What do you actually consider "reasonable" compared to the
average 4 dollars or so per meal Jess and I can "brown bag" on the road?





Traveling for business and driving a long-haul truck on the interstates
doesn't mean you eat at the same places. The truck drivers are pretty
much limited to eating at truck stops, where their rigs can be parked,
fueled, accommodated. Some truck stops offer a wide variety of food and
some have that food at decent prices but even so, eating three hots a day
while driving a big rig isn't inexpensive. If you are driving your car,
you can easily get off the interstate and find the kind of place you'd
prefer to eat that will accommodate you and your car. On the interstates
around here, "Cracker Barrel" restaurants seem very popular at all three
meal times, but you rarely see the big truck rigs in their parking lots
because those lots are not built to handle those sorts of vehicles. A
decent meal at Cracker Barrel runs $10-$12, easily. A similar meal at a
truck stop likely is more expensive.

Cite.


LOL,

I probably travel more than you. And over the years traveled a lot for
business. Business travel included an expense account, but I still did not
overspend for meals. I am well to do, and still eat at diners and truck
stops. Driving a crew cab pickup and towing 25' of trailer, makes parking
a chore. I still get out for $20 for two of us most the time. Seems as if
there are a lot of truckers on the road, surviving well on their pay. But
more are needed. But seems as if a lot of people figure society will take
care of them. Pay their medical bills, pay their rent, food stamps and
welfare payments to eat from.



Two people, twenty bucks, three times a day does not work for a working
slob who doesn't have an expense account and won't be home in his warm
bed on Thursday night.... The point is, you spend ten dollars a meal
when you are on the road all the time, and it's much more expensive than
eating at home cooking your own meals... Why is that so difficult for you
to understand? 60 dollars a day is what your *expense account*
spent, instead of 15-18 or so when we brown bag it and we eat better than
anybody at the track....

Go to subway, get a $5 12" and add a drink or combo. Way less than $10.
Fact is wife and I split a 12" and get 2 combos and we are still out there
for about $10 for 2. We are discussing truck drivers. Figure rack person
separate. They are paid separately. And they probably net $50k after road
expenses.
http://w3.primeinc.com/driver-benefits for PRIME.

On 9/21/2013 9:34 PM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 7:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/20/2013 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:


Funny...Wayne has NO idea WHAT is involved in being a Truck Driver.

$50,000 is **** wages, considering you have to feed yourself while out on
the road. That is deducted off the top line, leaving you **** all really.
Truck Companies DONT give a **** if you have a Family, they just want the
**** going down the road.

He should find himself a job..

The truck driver has to feed himself each day, wether he is driving or
watching Oprah.


Do you seriously not understand the difference in dollars, buying
prepared food on the road, or cooking your own at home? When we go
racing, we easily save $50 bucks a day by brown bagging compared to other
teams... It's a lot different working and living on the road and trying
to eat well, than it is stuffing in carbs on vacation or on a long weekend...

You travel for business, you learn to eat reasonable. You do not go out to
the 3 star eateries.

Do you ever leave home? What is the cheapest decent meal you can find on
the road? What do you actually consider "reasonable" compared to the
average 4 dollars or so per meal Jess and I can "brown bag" on the road?





Traveling for business and driving a long-haul truck on the interstates
doesn't mean you eat at the same places. The truck drivers are pretty
much limited to eating at truck stops, where their rigs can be parked,
fueled, accommodated. Some truck stops offer a wide variety of food and
some have that food at decent prices but even so, eating three hots a day
while driving a big rig isn't inexpensive. If you are driving your car,
you can easily get off the interstate and find the kind of place you'd
prefer to eat that will accommodate you and your car. On the interstates
around here, "Cracker Barrel" restaurants seem very popular at all three
meal times, but you rarely see the big truck rigs in their parking lots
because those lots are not built to handle those sorts of vehicles. A
decent meal at Cracker Barrel runs $10-$12, easily. A similar meal at a
truck stop likely is more expensive.

Cite.


LOL,

I probably travel more than you. And over the years traveled a lot for
business. Business travel included an expense account, but I still did not
overspend for meals. I am well to do, and still eat at diners and truck
stops. Driving a crew cab pickup and towing 25' of trailer, makes parking
a chore. I still get out for $20 for two of us most the time. Seems as if
there are a lot of truckers on the road, surviving well on their pay. But
more are needed. But seems as if a lot of people figure society will take
care of them. Pay their medical bills, pay their rent, food stamps and
welfare payments to eat from.



Two people, twenty bucks, three times a day does not work for a working
slob who doesn't have an expense account and won't be home in his warm
bed on Thursday night.... The point is, you spend ten dollars a meal
when you are on the road all the time, and it's much more expensive than
eating at home cooking your own meals... Why is that so difficult for you
to understand? 60 dollars a day is what your *expense account*
spent, instead of 15-18 or so when we brown bag it and we eat better than
anybody at the track....

Go to subway, get a $5 12" and add a drink or combo. Way less than $10.
Fact is wife and I split a 12" and get 2 combos and we are still out there
for about $10 for 2. We are discussing truck drivers. Figure rack person
separate. They are paid separately. And they probably net $50k after road
expenses.
http://w3.primeinc.com/driver-benefits for PRIME.


You didn't live on 5 dollar meals.... you had an expense account, you
ate other meals, you were not going through 3000+ calories a day and
doing your "business" in extreme conditions. When we are on the road we
pack real food, and cook it as needed. Cause like truckers, we might be
able to find a Subway here and there on the road, but in general, we,
like you, can not, *and did not* live on Subway sandwiches and a bag of
chips three times a day...

On 9/21/13 11:03 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:34:38 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

We are discussing truck drivers. Figure rack person
separate. They are paid separately. And they probably net $50k after road
expenses.
http://w3.primeinc.com/driver-benefits for PRIME.

When you read down, that is a tough job. They expect a 2 man team to
drive almost 17,000 miles a month. I am not sure how many hours you
actually have to be driving to do that but two 40 hour a week drivers
only have 336 hours. That means they have to average about 50 MPH and
everything else is overtime.
That is why they want contractors who do not get overtime (self
employed)
I am guessing they push the "10 hour" rule to the limits and beyond.

Like Red Sovine says" I'm talking little white pills and my eyes are
open wide".
I was a teamster (local 639 Harry) just long enough to know I didn't
want to do that for a living.



I was a teamster for two summers, the one before I left for college and
the one after I finished my freshman year. The next summer, I got a
union job as a welder's apprentice at a boiler factory. My dad had a lot
of friends in the trades, and he was able to make a few phone calls and
get me a spot for the summer.

I was delighted to have these jobs, because they paid a lot more than
the crappy minimum wage summer jobs any of my friends had and, actually,
they were kind of fun, albeit backbreaking.

The summer after my junior year, I was hired by the newspaper for a
full-time job as a reporter, and worked five evenings a week while
completing my senior year. The newsroom workers at that time were not
organized, but typesetters and printers sure were. All of the
typesetters were grads of schools for the deaf, and were terrific at
operating the banks of linotype machines.

skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 9:34 PM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 7:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/20/2013 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:


Funny...Wayne has NO idea WHAT is involved in being a Truck Driver.

$50,000 is **** wages, considering you have to feed yourself while out on
the road. That is deducted off the top line, leaving you **** all really.
Truck Companies DONT give a **** if you have a Family, they just want the
**** going down the road.

He should find himself a job..

The truck driver has to feed himself each day, wether he is driving or
watching Oprah.


Do you seriously not understand the difference in dollars, buying
prepared food on the road, or cooking your own at home? When we go
racing, we easily save $50 bucks a day by brown bagging compared to other
teams... It's a lot different working and living on the road and trying
to eat well, than it is stuffing in carbs on vacation or on a long weekend...

You travel for business, you learn to eat reasonable. You do not go out to
the 3 star eateries.

Do you ever leave home? What is the cheapest decent meal you can find on
the road? What do you actually consider "reasonable" compared to the
average 4 dollars or so per meal Jess and I can "brown bag" on the road?





Traveling for business and driving a long-haul truck on the interstates
doesn't mean you eat at the same places. The truck drivers are pretty
much limited to eating at truck stops, where their rigs can be parked,
fueled, accommodated. Some truck stops offer a wide variety of food and
some have that food at decent prices but even so, eating three hots a day
while driving a big rig isn't inexpensive. If you are driving your car,
you can easily get off the interstate and find the kind of place you'd
prefer to eat that will accommodate you and your car. On the interstates
around here, "Cracker Barrel" restaurants seem very popular at all three
meal times, but you rarely see the big truck rigs in their parking lots
because those lots are not built to handle those sorts of vehicles. A
decent meal at Cracker Barrel runs $10-$12, easily. A similar meal at a
truck stop likely is more expensive.

Cite.


LOL,

I probably travel more than you. And over the years traveled a lot for
business. Business travel included an expense account, but I still did not
overspend for meals. I am well to do, and still eat at diners and truck
stops. Driving a crew cab pickup and towing 25' of trailer, makes parking
a chore. I still get out for $20 for two of us most the time. Seems as if
there are a lot of truckers on the road, surviving well on their pay. But
more are needed. But seems as if a lot of people figure society will take
care of them. Pay their medical bills, pay their rent, food stamps and
welfare payments to eat from.



Two people, twenty bucks, three times a day does not work for a working
slob who doesn't have an expense account and won't be home in his warm
bed on Thursday night.... The point is, you spend ten dollars a meal
when you are on the road all the time, and it's much more expensive than
eating at home cooking your own meals... Why is that so difficult for you
to understand? 60 dollars a day is what your *expense account*
spent, instead of 15-18 or so when we brown bag it and we eat better than
anybody at the track....

Go to subway, get a $5 12" and add a drink or combo. Way less than $10.
Fact is wife and I split a 12" and get 2 combos and we are still out there
for about $10 for 2. We are discussing truck drivers. Figure rack person
separate. They are paid separately. And they probably net $50k after road
expenses.
http://w3.primeinc.com/driver-benefits for PRIME.


You didn't live on 5 dollar meals.... you had an expense account, you ate
other meals, you were not going through 3000+ calories a day and doing
your "business" in extreme conditions. When we are on the road we pack
real food, and cook it as needed. Cause like truckers, we might be able
to find a Subway here and there on the road, but in general, we, like
you, can not, *and did not* live on Subway sandwiches and a bag of chips
three times a day...

I do not eat 3000 calories a day now. Have not had an expense account for
11 years. We travel lot. Both to SoCal to the kids, or boating ( we do
cook in the camper ) and lots of other travel. Ido not have to live on $60
a day, but probably do not spend that much a day on average. Lots of
truckers out there, and they seem to make a decent living. So their $50k
reduces to $40k with expenses. How much do you net? They have medical
insurance. You? Lots of people living on 99 weeks of unemployment, saying
they can not get a job. How many truck driver position open? A lot of
lazy takers out there.

On 9/21/2013 11:18 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/21/13 11:03 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:34:38 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

We are discussing truck drivers. Figure rack person
separate. They are paid separately. And they probably net $50k
after road
expenses.
http://w3.primeinc.com/driver-benefits for PRIME.

When you read down, that is a tough job. They expect a 2 man team to
drive almost 17,000 miles a month. I am not sure how many hours you
actually have to be driving to do that but two 40 hour a week drivers
only have 336 hours. That means they have to average about 50 MPH and
everything else is overtime.
That is why they want contractors who do not get overtime (self
employed)
I am guessing they push the "10 hour" rule to the limits and beyond.

Like Red Sovine says" I'm talking little white pills and my eyes are
open wide".
I was a teamster (local 639 Harry) just long enough to know I didn't
want to do that for a living.



I was a teamster for two summers, the one before I left for college and
the one after I finished my freshman year. The next summer, I got a
union job as a welder's apprentice at a boiler factory. My dad had a lot
of friends in the trades, and he was able to make a few phone calls and
get me a spot for the summer.

I was delighted to have these jobs, because they paid a lot more than
the crappy minimum wage summer jobs any of my friends had and, actually,
they were kind of fun, albeit backbreaking.

The summer after my junior year, I was hired by the newspaper for a
full-time job as a reporter, and worked five evenings a week while
completing my senior year. The newsroom workers at that time were not
organized, but typesetters and printers sure were. All of the
typesetters were grads of schools for the deaf, and were terrific at
operating the banks of linotype machines.

Truck driving, not my summer union grunt job. Try to keep up.

In article 217535698401497373.119543bmckeenospam-
, says...

skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/20/2013 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:


Funny...Wayne has NO idea WHAT is involved in being a Truck Driver.

$50,000 is **** wages, considering you have to feed yourself while out on
the road. That is deducted off the top line, leaving you **** all really.
Truck Companies DONT give a **** if you have a Family, they just want the
**** going down the road.

He should find himself a job..

The truck driver has to feed himself each day, wether he is driving or
watching Oprah.


Do you seriously not understand the difference in dollars, buying
prepared food on the road, or cooking your own at home? When we go
racing, we easily save $50 bucks a day by brown bagging compared to other
teams... It's a lot different working and living on the road and trying
to eat well, than it is stuffing in carbs on vacation or on a long weekend...

You travel for business, you learn to eat reasonable. You do not go out to
the 3 star eateries.

Do you ever leave home? What is the cheapest decent meal you can find on
the road? What do you actually consider "reasonable" compared to the
average 4 dollars or so per meal Jess and I can "brown bag" on the road?





Traveling for business and driving a long-haul truck on the interstates
doesn't mean you eat at the same places. The truck drivers are pretty
much limited to eating at truck stops, where their rigs can be parked,
fueled, accommodated. Some truck stops offer a wide variety of food and
some have that food at decent prices but even so, eating three hots a day
while driving a big rig isn't inexpensive. If you are driving your car,
you can easily get off the interstate and find the kind of place you'd
prefer to eat that will accommodate you and your car. On the interstates
around here, "Cracker Barrel" restaurants seem very popular at all three
meal times, but you rarely see the big truck rigs in their parking lots
because those lots are not built to handle those sorts of vehicles. A
decent meal at Cracker Barrel runs $10-$12, easily. A similar meal at a
truck stop likely is more expensive.

Cite.


LOL,

I probably travel more than you. And over the years traveled a lot for
business. Business travel included an expense account, but I still did not
overspend for meals. I am well to do, and still eat at diners and truck
stops. Driving a crew cab pickup and towing 25' of trailer, makes parking
a chore. I still get out for $20 for two of us most the time. Seems as if
there are a lot of truckers on the road, surviving well on their pay. But
more are needed. But seems as if a lot of people figure society will take
care of them. Pay their medical bills, pay their rent, food stamps and
welfare payments to eat from.

My cousins were all long haul truckers, and they made a damned good
living. Now, it isn't a life for everyone, but for some. I have ridden
with my cousin all over the country, and he was well known, don't think
I was ever at a truck stop with him that someone didn't know him!

In article ,
says...

On 9/21/2013 7:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/20/2013 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:


Funny...Wayne has NO idea WHAT is involved in being a Truck Driver.

$50,000 is **** wages, considering you have to feed yourself while out on
the road. That is deducted off the top line, leaving you **** all really.
Truck Companies DONT give a **** if you have a Family, they just want the
**** going down the road.

He should find himself a job..

The truck driver has to feed himself each day, wether he is driving or
watching Oprah.


Do you seriously not understand the difference in dollars, buying
prepared food on the road, or cooking your own at home? When we go
racing, we easily save $50 bucks a day by brown bagging compared to other
teams... It's a lot different working and living on the road and trying
to eat well, than it is stuffing in carbs on vacation or on a long weekend...

You travel for business, you learn to eat reasonable. You do not go out to
the 3 star eateries.

Do you ever leave home? What is the cheapest decent meal you can find on
the road? What do you actually consider "reasonable" compared to the
average 4 dollars or so per meal Jess and I can "brown bag" on the road?





Traveling for business and driving a long-haul truck on the interstates
doesn't mean you eat at the same places. The truck drivers are pretty
much limited to eating at truck stops, where their rigs can be parked,
fueled, accommodated. Some truck stops offer a wide variety of food and
some have that food at decent prices but even so, eating three hots a day
while driving a big rig isn't inexpensive. If you are driving your car,
you can easily get off the interstate and find the kind of place you'd
prefer to eat that will accommodate you and your car. On the interstates
around here, "Cracker Barrel" restaurants seem very popular at all three
meal times, but you rarely see the big truck rigs in their parking lots
because those lots are not built to handle those sorts of vehicles. A
decent meal at Cracker Barrel runs $10-$12, easily. A similar meal at a
truck stop likely is more expensive.

Cite.


LOL,

I probably travel more than you. And over the years traveled a lot for
business. Business travel included an expense account, but I still did not
overspend for meals. I am well to do, and still eat at diners and truck
stops. Driving a crew cab pickup and towing 25' of trailer, makes parking
a chore. I still get out for $20 for two of us most the time. Seems as if
there are a lot of truckers on the road, surviving well on their pay. But
more are needed. But seems as if a lot of people figure society will take
care of them. Pay their medical bills, pay their rent, food stamps and
welfare payments to eat from.



Two people, twenty bucks, three times a day does not work for a working
slob who doesn't have an expense account and won't be home in his warm
bed on Thursday night.... The point is, you spend ten dollars a meal
when you are on the road all the time, and it's much more expensive than
eating at home cooking your own meals... Why is that so difficult for
you to understand? 60 dollars a day is what your *expense
account* spent, instead of 15-18 or so when we brown bag it and we eat
better than anybody at the track....

That's odd, my cousin lived on the road as a long haul trucker so much
that he was known everywhere. He made a damned good living. Your problem
is that you are unemployed and can't afford a meal at a truckstop. The
solution would be to get a job and support your family for a change.

In article ,
says...

On 9/21/13 8:16 PM, skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 7:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/21/2013 11:37 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 9/21/13 2:25 AM, Califbill wrote:
skin a cat wrote:
On 9/20/2013 10:06 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:


Funny...Wayne has NO idea WHAT is involved in being a Truck
Driver.

$50,000 is **** wages, considering you have to feed yourself
while out on
the road. That is deducted off the top line, leaving you ****
all really.
Truck Companies DONT give a **** if you have a Family, they
just want the
**** going down the road.

He should find himself a job..

The truck driver has to feed himself each day, wether he is
driving or
watching Oprah.


Do you seriously not understand the difference in dollars, buying
prepared food on the road, or cooking your own at home? When we go
racing, we easily save $50 bucks a day by brown bagging compared
to other
teams... It's a lot different working and living on the road and
trying
to eat well, than it is stuffing in carbs on vacation or on a
long weekend...

You travel for business, you learn to eat reasonable. You do not
go out to
the 3 star eateries.

Do you ever leave home? What is the cheapest decent meal you can find on
the road? What do you actually consider "reasonable" compared to the
average 4 dollars or so per meal Jess and I can "brown bag" on the road?





Traveling for business and driving a long-haul truck on the
interstates
doesn't mean you eat at the same places. The truck drivers are pretty
much limited to eating at truck stops, where their rigs can be parked,
fueled, accommodated. Some truck stops offer a wide variety of food
and
some have that food at decent prices but even so, eating three hots
a day
while driving a big rig isn't inexpensive. If you are driving your
car,
you can easily get off the interstate and find the kind of place you'd
prefer to eat that will accommodate you and your car. On the
interstates
around here, "Cracker Barrel" restaurants seem very popular at all
three
meal times, but you rarely see the big truck rigs in their parking
lots
because those lots are not built to handle those sorts of vehicles. A
decent meal at Cracker Barrel runs $10-$12, easily. A similar meal
at a
truck stop likely is more expensive.

Cite.


LOL,

I probably travel more than you. And over the years traveled a lot for
business. Business travel included an expense account, but I still
did not
overspend for meals. I am well to do, and still eat at diners and truck
stops. Driving a crew cab pickup and towing 25' of trailer, makes
parking
a chore. I still get out for $20 for two of us most the time. Seems
as if
there are a lot of truckers on the road, surviving well on their pay.
But
more are needed. But seems as if a lot of people figure society will
take
care of them. Pay their medical bills, pay their rent, food stamps and
welfare payments to eat from.



Two people, twenty bucks, three times a day does not work for a working
slob who doesn't have an expense account and won't be home in his warm
bed on Thursday night.... The point is, you spend ten dollars a meal
when you are on the road all the time, and it's much more expensive than
eating at home cooking your own meals... Why is that so difficult for
you to understand? 60 dollars a day is what your *expense
account* spent, instead of 15-18 or so when we brown bag it and we eat
better than anybody at the track....


I don't know where this thread started, but being a long-distance hauler
is a really job with crappy pay, considering the hours, the dead time,
and the money you have to put out to sustain yourself on the road.

Not true at all. Like just about all occupations you can advance and do
well, or take the lazy way and just survive.

On 9/22/2013 11:43 AM, wrote:
You need to be a special kind of guy to tolerate a job that is that
predictable for decades but a lot of these guys were refugees from
factory work, another mind numbing job.
My wife's ex was an owner operator (owned big KW), former Chrysler
worker.

Donnie was a lifelong Crown Corporation employee up there in Her
Majesty's Nova Scotia. Do you suppose that's was what numbed his mind?