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On 10/20/13, 1:21 PM, Gogarty wrote:
In article , says... (Snip) Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. As it happens, this grandpa's SS payments did in fact pay for the boat, a 37-foot sloop. Gone now. Wrecked. My SS supported insurance paid for it. Greg apparently believes that old people should be shoved to the curb so the soylent green truck can scoop them up. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? |
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#15
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On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:10:04 -0500, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? ~~crickets~~ John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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#16
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On 10/20/13, 2:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? Your percentages are off and misleading. Here are some places to start: In fiscal 2014 only 11% of revenues will come from corporate income taxes. That needs to be doubled. We should start making drastic cuts in military spending. It's a half trillion a year on budget and much more off budget. Raise taxes drastically on non-earned income. Eliminate any and all tax breaks for U.S. corporations that export jobs. Raise social security taxes on employers Raise the tax ceiling on income counted for social security Eliminate 100 billion in waste in Medicaid and Medicare |
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On 10/20/13, 5:00 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/20/13, 2:10 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? Your percentages are off and misleading. Here are some places to start: In fiscal 2014 only 11% of revenues will come from corporate income taxes. That needs to be doubled. We should start making drastic cuts in military spending. It's a half trillion a year on budget and much more off budget. Raise taxes drastically on non-earned income. Eliminate any and all tax breaks for U.S. corporations that export jobs. Raise social security taxes on employers Raise the tax ceiling on income counted for social security Eliminate 100 billion in waste in Medicaid and Medicare Oh, and Given Bush and his insanely expensive wars, that we will be paying for for generations to come, the only possible response a sensible person need ever give, when a GOPer/TeaBagger says anything about "deficits", is a polite snicker. |
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#18
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On 10/20/2013 5:00 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 10/20/13, 2:10 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? Your percentages are off and misleading. Here are some places to start: In fiscal 2014 only 11% of revenues will come from corporate income taxes. That needs to be doubled. We should start making drastic cuts in military spending. It's a half trillion a year on budget and much more off budget. Raise taxes drastically on non-earned income. Eliminate any and all tax breaks for U.S. corporations that export jobs. Raise social security taxes on employers Raise the tax ceiling on income counted for social security Eliminate 100 billion in waste in Medicaid and Medicare get deadbeats to pay their back taxes Get deadbeats to pay their current taxes |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/20/13, 2:10 PM, Califbill wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 12:10 PM, wrote: On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:47:11 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 10/20/13, 2:08 AM, wrote: On 19 Oct 2013 23:06:09 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: wrote: As long as the media and the mono culture of the two virtually identical political parties suppress them,. they will never even get a chance. Harry Browne scared all of them in 1996 and the rules changed to eliminate 3d parties. You are going to get the candidates you deserve and there is not going to be much difference between them. The same billionaires select them for both parties.That is why we are in the 4th Bush administration with the only conflict being guns and abortion, relatively insignificant in a country of an $18 trillion debt and nothing but more debt on the horizon. The government continues to get bigger and more obtrusive. Sorry. . .don't buy your equivalencies. I know, you whine about how things are and then you support the status quo every chance you get. As long as you still vote for the machine candidate, you will be crushed by the machine.. Actually, I don't much like the status quo because it has shifted too far to the right. And, after years of watching the Loonitarian candidates, there's little chance I'd vote for one of them. They're basically Republicans with even less sense of social responsibility. How socially responsible is it to mortgage our kid's futures for keeping up the appearance of prosperity now? You can't even say the baby boomers paid into SS/MC so they deserve a lifetime of benefits. I have already got back every penny I put in (mine and employer side). Statistically I will get 13-14 more years out of it and the medicare bills have not even started to pile up. I did not choose to do all of this but if these are the rules of the game that I was forced to play, I will put my head down and play. Sorry kids, grandpa wants a new boat. That cat food isn't all that bad if you put ketchup on it. You post as if there are no ways to correct these situations without eliminating or drastically reducing the programs. That's absurd. How are you proposing to put the fiscal house in order when we are spending 86% of our revenue on mandatory / entitlement spending? And 46% of the country does not pay any income tax. Fact lots of those who work and do not pay income tax, get an extra check from the government. What is your cure for to keep the financial house of cards from collapsing? Your percentages are off and misleading. Here are some places to start: In fiscal 2014 only 11% of revenues will come from corporate income taxes. That needs to be doubled. We should start making drastic cuts in military spending. It's a half trillion a year on budget and much more off budget. Raise taxes drastically on non-earned income. Eliminate any and all tax breaks for U.S. corporations that export jobs. Raise social security taxes on employers Raise the tax ceiling on income counted for social security Eliminate 100 billion in waste in Medicaid and Medicare Who pays those corporate taxes? What is really unearned income? I saved and invested that money, and my qualified dividends are taxed about 50%. The corporation was taxed around 40% on that money before they sent it to me! to be taxed again. Employer SS taxes are just part of the compensation package. Raise the rate, less money for the employee. Yes we should cut military spending. Get most of the troops out of Europe. They can supply their own protection. Get out of the Middle East. Forget the f'n nation building. Someone attacks us, just destroy most of their infrastructure. Other than cutting military spending, and raising taxes, you have little in your plan to put spending and revenue in balance. ACA should remove Medicaid. How about legalizing most drugs and taxing them. Let those who are pretty worthless in life, cheaply kill themselves with drugs. Save billions in police costs, billions in welfare. Reduce over population  |
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