If you live in a RED STATE and your governor has rejected the Affordable
Care Act, you will not be able to get the same assistance that those in
states that have accepted the ACA. Blame your governor, not the
President or the ACA.

Tough titty, Floridians.

On 10/27/13, 10:41 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:09:41 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If you live in a RED STATE and your governor has rejected the Affordable
Care Act, you will not be able to get the same assistance that those in
states that have accepted the ACA. Blame your governor, not the
President or the ACA.

Tough titty, Floridians.

OTOH if you notice your Medicare Advantage plan is not quite as good
as it was last year you can blame that on the $70 billion ACA sucked
out of the program.
Tough titties grandma.


I didn't have a Medicare Advantage program last year and in fact I still
am not on Medicare.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
If you live in a RED STATE and your governor has rejected the Affordable
Care Act, you will not be able to get the same assistance that those in
states that have accepted the ACA. Blame your governor, not the President or the ACA.

Tough titty, Floridians.

Prime example of a badly written law. Maybe if they had not rammed through
an unread law at the last minute, the law might actually work.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...#axzz2iwfjGewk

On 10/27/13, 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
If you live in a RED STATE and your governor has rejected the Affordable
Care Act, you will not be able to get the same assistance that those in
states that have accepted the ACA. Blame your governor, not the President or the ACA.

Tough titty, Floridians.

Prime example of a badly written law. Maybe if they had not rammed through
an unread law at the last minute, the law might actually work.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...#axzz2iwfjGewk



And it only took two or three years to straighten out Medicare problems
when it was introduced...

wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:10:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/27/13, 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
If you live in a RED STATE and your governor has rejected the Affordable
Care Act, you will not be able to get the same assistance that those in
states that have accepted the ACA. Blame your governor, not the President or the ACA.

Tough titty, Floridians.

Prime example of a badly written law. Maybe if they had not rammed through
an unread law at the last minute, the law might actually work.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...#axzz2iwfjGewk



And it only took two or three years to straighten out Medicare problems
when it was introduced...

They have been screwing with Medicare since it started, trying to get
the kinks out but the big problem now is how we pay for it. The same
will be true of ACA, just much sooner.

Good. It'll help us transition to national health care like all the big
countries

On Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:09:41 AM UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:


Flagged for the **** it is.

F.O.A.D. wrote:
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:10:33 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 10/27/13, 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
If you live in a RED STATE and your governor has rejected the Affordable
Care Act, you will not be able to get the same assistance that those in
states that have accepted the ACA. Blame your governor, not the President or the ACA.

Tough titty, Floridians.

Prime example of a badly written law. Maybe if they had not rammed through
an unread law at the last minute, the law might actually work.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...#axzz2iwfjGewk



And it only took two or three years to straighten out Medicare problems
when it was introduced...

They have been screwing with Medicare since it started, trying to get
the kinks out but the big problem now is how we pay for it. The same
will be true of ACA, just much sooner.

Good. It'll help us transition to national health care like all the big
countries

Be prepared for very regressive taxes when that happens. How do you think
those countries in Europe pay for that healthcare? One way is large
consumer taxes. Over a buck a gallon on gasoline 10 years ago. Not income
tax, but that old regressive tax that goes across all the populace. Canada
has an 18% VAT tax. Everybody who spends money, pays. Actually I think
that is very good. Gets rid of a lot of freeloading.

"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 10/27/13, 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote:
If you live in a RED STATE and your governor has rejected the Affordable
Care Act, you will not be able to get the same assistance that those in
states that have accepted the ACA. Blame your governor, not the President or the ACA.

Tough titty, Floridians.

Prime example of a badly written law. Maybe if they had not rammed through
an unread law at the last minute, the law might actually work.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...#axzz2iwfjGewk



And it only took two or three years to straighten out Medicare problems
when it was introduced...

Medicare still has lots of problems. Mostly cost. Was only going to cost
$500 million when they brought it out. You actually pointed out a major
problem in one of the other theads. You are going to MediCare as it is
much cheaper and does not burdon your present insurance company. Someone
has to pay, and that is the taxpayers, and since we are borrowing 40% of
the money we spend! that means.my grand kids and their kids will pay the
bills, maybe. Too many last minute, rushed through the pipe laws have
created major problems in the last 20 years, and probably before that.
California rushed through a energy deregulation law a few years ago. We
are still paying more for energy because of that. Allowed Enron and
Calpine and others to buy PG&E and SDGE generating facilities that the
state said the utilities had to sell at bargain basement prices. Then the
utility companies had to pay whatever the wholesaler wanted as only the
retail price was controlled, not the wholesale price. PGE went bankrupt at
the time.

15 percent here. Varies in the different provinces as it's a combination of the Federal GST and provincial PST.
They 'harmonized it guite a while ago here and call it HST.
Originally they wanted to call it the 'blended sales tax' but locals decided that the BST stood for 'bull**** tax' so the gov't changed the name.

True North wrote:
15 percent here. Varies in the different provinces as it's a combination
of the Federal GST and provincial PST.
They 'harmonized it guite a while ago here and call it HST.
Originally they wanted to call it the 'blended sales tax' but locals
decided that the BST stood for 'bull**** tax' so the gov't changed the name.

Ok. Free medical?