George W. Bush just sank...


George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That
Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Next week, former President George W. Bush is scheduled to keynote a
fundraiser in Irving, Texas, for the Messianic Jewish Bible Institute, a
group that trains people in the United States, Israel, and around the
world to convince Jews to accept Jesus as the Messiah. The
organization's goal: to "restore" Israel and the Jews and bring about
about the second coming of Christ.

Messianic Jews have long been controversial for Jews of all major
denominations, who object to their proselytizing efforts and their
message that salvation by Jesus is consistent with Jewish theology. Last
year, Abraham Foxman, president of the Anti-Defamation League, told
Politico that former Sen. Rick Santorum's appearance at an event hosted
by another Messianic Jewish organization, the Messianic Jewish Alliance
of America, was "insensitive and offensive." And Commentary magazine,
which bills itself as a "conservative American journal of politics,
Judaism, social and cultural issues," noted, "it must be understood that
the visceral distaste that the overwhelming majority of Jews have for
the Messianics is not to be taken lightly." Many Messianic Jews are
Christians who have adopted aspects of Jewish ritual observance; others
are Jews who share the Christian belief that Jesus is the Messiah.

Asked about Bush's upcoming appearance at the Messianic Jewish Bible
Institute (MJBI) event, Rabbi David Saperstein, the director of the
Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, said, "It's disappointing
that he would give his stamp of approval to a group whose program is an
express effort to convert Jews and not to accept the validity of the
Jewish covenant." Foxman was traveling overseas and unavailable to comment.

(After this story published, Rabbi David Wolpe of Los Angeles' Sinai
Temple, whom Newsweek has called the most influential rabbi in the
country, tweeted, "This is infuriating.")

Based in Dallas, the MJBI claims that it acts like the Apostle Paul in
helping to "educate Christians in their role to provoke the Jewish
people to jealousy and thus save some of them (Romans 11:11-14)." It has
Bible schools in 12 countries, an online school of "Messianic theology,"
and programs to train Messianic rabbis and pastors. Its logos feature a
star of David and a menorah, and its website promotes the weekly Torah
portion, a "Yiddish Mama's Kitchen," and links to purchase Judaica and
books, such as Christ in the Old Testament. The nonprofit organization
brought in approximately $1.2 million in revenue in 2011, the last year
for which records are available.

At the November 14 event, which will be held at the Irving Convention
Center, Bush will discuss his White House experiences, according to
promotional materials. Bush, the group says, will "share his passion for
setting people free." Last year, Glenn Beck was the star of the group's
fundraiser, which was held at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

This year's event is designed to bring in funds for the group's
proselytizing operations. And the former president is helping out with
more than just speech-making. The most expensive of the ticket packages,
which range from $100 to $100,000, includes 20 invitations to a VIP
reception and photo opportunity with Bush, 10 signed copies of Bush's
book Decision Points, and passes to tour the George W. Bush Presidential
Library and Museum.
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Proselytizers should be hanged.
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/7/13, 9:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 19:54:57 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

George W. Bush just sank...


George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That
Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Next week, former President George W. Bush is scheduled to keynote a
fundraiser in Irving, Texas, for the Messianic Jewish Bible Institute, a
group that trains people in the United States, Israel, and around the
world to convince Jews to accept Jesus as the Messiah. The
organization's goal: to "restore" Israel and the Jews and bring about
about the second coming of Christ.

Messianic Jews have long been controversial for Jews of all major
denominations, who object to their proselytizing efforts and their
message that salvation by Jesus is consistent with Jewish theology.

Why do you care? Isn't it all just superstition to you anyway?

If he kicks in a few bucks to make honest people out of the "Jews for
Jesus" group. so what?

I send money to Israel Suarez a few times a year and it doesn't bother
me that he is the president of Good Samaritan Christian Center. They
feed a lot of people in a part of town that few people like me ever
have a reason to venture into.


Proselytizing turns my stomach.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/7/2013 7:54 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
George W. Bush just sank...


George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That
Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Next week, former President George W. Bush is scheduled to keynote a
fundraiser in Irving, Texas, for the Messianic Jewish Bible Institute, a
group that trains people in the United States, Israel, and around the
world to convince Jews to accept Jesus as the Messiah. The
organization's goal: to "restore" Israel and the Jews and bring about
about the second coming of Christ.

Messianic Jews have long been controversial for Jews of all major
denominations, who object to their proselytizing efforts and their
message that salvation by Jesus is consistent with Jewish theology. Last
year, Abraham Foxman, president of the Anti-Defamation League, told
Politico that former Sen. Rick Santorum's appearance at an event hosted
by another Messianic Jewish organization, the Messianic Jewish Alliance
of America, was "insensitive and offensive." And Commentary magazine,
which bills itself as a "conservative American journal of politics,
Judaism, social and cultural issues," noted, "it must be understood that
the visceral distaste that the overwhelming majority of Jews have for
the Messianics is not to be taken lightly." Many Messianic Jews are
Christians who have adopted aspects of Jewish ritual observance; others
are Jews who share the Christian belief that Jesus is the Messiah.

Asked about Bush's upcoming appearance at the Messianic Jewish Bible
Institute (MJBI) event, Rabbi David Saperstein, the director of the
Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, said, "It's disappointing
that he would give his stamp of approval to a group whose program is an
express effort to convert Jews and not to accept the validity of the
Jewish covenant." Foxman was traveling overseas and unavailable to comment.

(After this story published, Rabbi David Wolpe of Los Angeles' Sinai
Temple, whom Newsweek has called the most influential rabbi in the
country, tweeted, "This is infuriating.")

Based in Dallas, the MJBI claims that it acts like the Apostle Paul in
helping to "educate Christians in their role to provoke the Jewish
people to jealousy and thus save some of them (Romans 11:11-14)." It has
Bible schools in 12 countries, an online school of "Messianic theology,"
and programs to train Messianic rabbis and pastors. Its logos feature a
star of David and a menorah, and its website promotes the weekly Torah
portion, a "Yiddish Mama's Kitchen," and links to purchase Judaica and
books, such as Christ in the Old Testament. The nonprofit organization
brought in approximately $1.2 million in revenue in 2011, the last year
for which records are available.

At the November 14 event, which will be held at the Irving Convention
Center, Bush will discuss his White House experiences, according to
promotional materials. Bush, the group says, will "share his passion for
setting people free." Last year, Glenn Beck was the star of the group's
fundraiser, which was held at Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

This year's event is designed to bring in funds for the group's
proselytizing operations. And the former president is helping out with
more than just speech-making. The most expensive of the ticket packages,
which range from $100 to $100,000, includes 20 invitations to a VIP
reception and photo opportunity with Bush, 10 signed copies of Bush's
book Decision Points, and passes to tour the George W. Bush Presidential
Library and Museum.

You really go out of your way to find examples of people "shoving their
religion down your throat". Who the hell cares where GB Bush, Bill
Clinton, Jimmy Carter or *any* private citizen for that matter decides
to speak?

On 11/7/2013 9:29 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/7/13, 9:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 19:54:57 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

George W. Bush just sank...


George W. Bush to Raise Money for Group That
Converts Jews to Bring About Second Coming of Christ

Next week, former President George W. Bush is scheduled to keynote a
fundraiser in Irving, Texas, for the Messianic Jewish Bible Institute, a
group that trains people in the United States, Israel, and around the
world to convince Jews to accept Jesus as the Messiah. The
organization's goal: to "restore" Israel and the Jews and bring about
about the second coming of Christ.

Messianic Jews have long been controversial for Jews of all major
denominations, who object to their proselytizing efforts and their
message that salvation by Jesus is consistent with Jewish theology.

Why do you care? Isn't it all just superstition to you anyway?

If he kicks in a few bucks to make honest people out of the "Jews for
Jesus" group. so what?

I send money to Israel Suarez a few times a year and it doesn't bother
me that he is the president of Good Samaritan Christian Center. They
feed a lot of people in a part of town that few people like me ever
have a reason to venture into.


Proselytizing turns my stomach.


Take a couple of Tums and mind your own business.

On 11/7/2013 9:48 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:29:17 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Proselytizing turns my stomach.

You must be a masochist then because you seem to work very hard to
find the things that disturb you.



Heh. The same thing went through my mind. Who the hell cares where
Bush or any private citizen decides to speak?

On 11/7/13, 9:48 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:29:17 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Proselytizing turns my stomach.

You must be a masochist then because you seem to work very hard to
find the things that disturb you.


Religion has done more harm to society than crack cocaine.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/8/2013 6:39 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/7/13, 9:48 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:29:17 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Proselytizing turns my stomach.

You must be a masochist then because you seem to work very hard to
find the things that disturb you.


Religion has done more harm to society than crack cocaine.


Is that your personal experience, or do you have a cite for us?

--
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit
is a sign of leadership
failure. Leadership
means that, 'the buck stops here.' America has a debt problem and a
failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better."
BHO (From 2006,when he sometimes told the truth)

On 11/8/2013 11:59 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Note for the record that I am not anti-god. I don't know whether there
is or is not a supreme being.

Don't you think you better find out before it's too late. Tick tick tick

--
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit
is a sign of leadership
failure. Leadership
means that, 'the buck stops here.' America has a debt problem and a
failure of
leadership. Americans deserve better."
BHO (From 2006,when he sometimes told the truth)

In article ,
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On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 06:39:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/7/13, 9:48 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:29:17 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Proselytizing turns my stomach.

You must be a masochist then because you seem to work very hard to
find the things that disturb you.


Religion has done more harm to society than crack cocaine.

Then why do you spend so much time looking for it? You just seem to go
through your life trying to find things that offend you.

Kind of like you and the other righties trying to find things about
liberals that offend you?

On Friday, November 8, 2013 6:39:04 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:

Religion has done more harm to society than crack cocaine.
..

Yet YOU have stated on this NG that YOU go to Church.

What a ****ing hypocrite.