On 11/19/2013 2:55 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:31:34 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

On Tuesday, 19 November 2013 15:07:55 UTC-4, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Walmart Asks Customers To Donate Food To Its Needy Employees



snip...

Unbelievable.
Locals should tar and feather the person who dreamed this up and run him out of town.

That would be the Ohio retail clerks union.


Yeah, I figured it was a setup by the unions...

On 11/19/2013 3:25 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:06:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 3:04 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:49:20 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 2:37 PM, wrote:


The ironic thing is Walmart actually pays slightly above the industry
average for retail. It is the mom and pop they replaced who really
offers ****ty jobs (generally lower wages and no benefits).
Walmart is actually seen as a good job out in flyover land. It is the
urban stores where you see these protests.


What's ironic is that no matter what the right does to **** over low
income people, you support it.

Nobody puts a gun to these people's head and makes them work at
Walmart or McDonalds.
They usually do it because that is the best job they are capable of
holding.
The cost of labor needs to reflect the value of that labor, not some
artificial number that can't be supported by the sales price of the
end product.


Perhaps they do it because WalMart has driven so many small businesses
out of business and they can't find a decent job anywhere, because the
toasters they used to manufacture WalMart buys in China from factories
that employ near slave labor.

You act like Detroit didn't drive manufacturing overseas long before
Walmart ever started to get big....

Do you really delude yourself into believing Mom and Pop pay any more
than Walmart? Will they have insurance, 401k, sick leave or paid
vacation?

Not bloody likely. In fact they are far more likely to have "cash"
employees who are not even getting FICA taxes paid, particularly out
in the country.

As for slave labor from China, who do you think built all of your
Apple stuff?

An apple store employee makes about the same as a walmart retail
person.

If you take the average salary of an Apple employee into the $30
billion they made, an average Walmart employee shared more in the
profits.
2.2 million walmart employees, $16b profit vs $30b profit and 80,000
employees.

On 11/19/13, 9:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:39:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store.

I bet you don't walk in off the street and get that job.


I dunno.

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they
don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented
by the federal government.

===

You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those
highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise
and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve.

On 11/19/13, 10:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:37:18 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 9:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:39:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store.

I bet you don't walk in off the street and get that job.


I dunno.

I get the feeling you have to work your way up to that job and I also
notice it is "exempt" so you can kiss that 40 hour week goodbye.



Dunno that, either. The former store manager who wanted to hire me as
the weekend "geezer" genius talked about working Friday-Saturday or
Saturday-Sunday, half the time behind the "genius" service counter, and
half the time teaching fellow geezers how to use their desktop and
laptop Apple gear.

I actually met a guy about a year ago who took the geezer job. Nice fellow.

In retrospect, I'm not sure I could tolerate working in an Apple store
on the weekends. The mall stores around here are not large and usually
they are so crowded on the weekends, you can't move. That's not an
environment I like.


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On 11/19/13, 6:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:36:46 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article , says...


Oh...the average *fulltime* WalMart employee makes $8.81 an hour, or
about $17,000 a year. And WalMart plays fast and loose with employee
hours and full and part time classifications. The average WalMart store
requires $1.5 million in pubic subsidies for its workers so they can buy
enough food to eat.

Walmart is a deadbeat company, relying on taxpayer food stamp subsidies
to keep many of their employees fed. Medicaid too.
And some of their stores are really badly run. Wife stopped going to
the local Walmart because the availability of some staples is hit or
miss.
Oddly enough, she always finds those staples at a Walmart near our son's
house, in a less "expensive" area.
A brief look on the internets shows Apple pays its employees more than
Walmart pays, so Greg probably pulled that one directly from his ass.
But hey, common wages don't matter anyway. Stock prices and executive
pay matter. That's how it is in the good ole USA.
Some like it that way, some don't.
Easy to tell who's who in that regard.


So don't work for Walmart. They don't put a gun to your head and make
you work there.
If they couldn't get people to work for what they pay, they would pay
more or simply close the store.


Ahh, a fan of the climb to the bottom. Well, of course.

The laws of economics are not working in your favor.

On 11/19/2013 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they
don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented
by the federal government.

===

You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those
highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise
and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve.

Don't you remember he advertized for associates on monster.com
Top in the industry salary, free tuition to your choice of universitys
in Kansas, Platinum insurance, 3 mos all expense paid vacation to Disney
Viera resort after 1 mos service, draft exemptions, 401,402, and 403k
retirement plans, all Christian, Jewish, and Muslim holidays off. The
whole enchilada.

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On 11/20/2013 9:06 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/19/2013 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they
don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented
by the federal government.

===

You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those
highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise
and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve.

Don't you remember he advertized for associates on monster.com
Top in the industry salary, free tuition to your choice of universitys
in Kansas, Platinum insurance, 3 mos all expense paid vacation to Disney
Viera resort after 1 mos service, draft exemptions, 401,402, and 403k
retirement plans, all Christian, Jewish, and Muslim holidays off. The
whole enchilada.


He wrote that ad for us, never hit Monster.com...

On 11/20/2013 9:11 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/20/2013 9:06 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/19/2013 11:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:48:05 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

It would be more appropriate for WalMart to pay its workers so they
don't have to beg for food for them, or have their income supplemented
by the federal government.

===

You're an (alleged) entrepreneur. You should hire some of those
highly qualified Walmart employees for your own (alleged) enterprise
and pay them the wages and benefits you think they deserve.

Don't you remember he advertized for associates on monster.com
Top in the industry salary, free tuition to your choice of universitys
in Kansas, Platinum insurance, 3 mos all expense paid vacation to Disney
Viera resort after 1 mos service, draft exemptions, 401,402, and 403k
retirement plans, all Christian, Jewish, and Muslim holidays off. The
whole enchilada.


He wrote that ad for us, never hit Monster.com...

Why in the world would he go to the trouble of writing the ad and not
post it?

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Americans deserve better.

On 11/20/13, 12:31 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:30:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 10:12 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:37:18 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/19/13, 9:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 19:39:11 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Hmm. The "Genius" jobs pay pretty well for a retail store.

I bet you don't walk in off the street and get that job.


I dunno.

I get the feeling you have to work your way up to that job and I also
notice it is "exempt" so you can kiss that 40 hour week goodbye.



Dunno that, either. The former store manager who wanted to hire me as
the weekend "geezer" genius talked about working Friday-Saturday or
Saturday-Sunday, half the time behind the "genius" service counter, and
half the time teaching fellow geezers how to use their desktop and
laptop Apple gear.

I actually met a guy about a year ago who took the geezer job. Nice fellow.

In retrospect, I'm not sure I could tolerate working in an Apple store
on the weekends. The mall stores around here are not large and usually
they are so crowded on the weekends, you can't move. That's not an
environment I like.

The Glass Door site lists this as a salaried position vs hourly and
that generally translates to long hours because they do not pay
overtime. That is a common dodge in the tech business.
I am guessing the job you were teased with was not the same thing.


Didn't pursue it, but all I was being recruited for was a part-time
weekend sort of job...my guess is that the "genius" salary could have
been divided into an hourly rate. It's another "I dunno."

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