On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:20:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen.

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.

OK, but when folks here start calling you names, don't blame me. I also add TV shows and the news
which attempt to make 'gaydom' appear as the 'norm' in the USA.

My attitude towards same sex unions has changed totally. I don't agree that it is a marriage, but I
do agree that the union should provide the same legal advantages as heterosexual marriages provide.
And, given the impact, albeit minor, that same sex unions could have on population control, I'm
beginning to see some advantages to the idea. When I mentioned this to my wife, she commented that
they would have kids through other methods.

She hadn't heard about this case, which could turn off a lot of sperm donors or surrogate mothers.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justic...perm-donation/

On 2/25/14, 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day
and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends
who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen.

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.











The Olympics are an international event. When we host the Olympics, we
get athletics and officials we don't much like because of their beliefs
or their country's beliefs.

Among the many girls I was privileged to date while a high schooler in
New Haven was a young lady who was overtly bisexual. I didn't give a
**** about that one way or the other, but as far as I know, I was the
only guy who was sexually active with her at that time (maybe because I
didn't care about her girl friends). Anyway, we both were friendly with
a gay guy and she asked me once whether I disliked him or mistrusted him
for being that way. The answer, of course, was no. I wasn't planning to
go to bed with him...what the hell did I care who he liked sexually.

On 2/25/14, 9:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:20:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen.

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.

OK, but when folks here start calling you names, don't blame me. I also add TV shows and the news
which attempt to make 'gaydom' appear as the 'norm' in the USA.

My attitude towards same sex unions has changed totally. I don't agree that it is a marriage, but I
do agree that the union should provide the same legal advantages as heterosexual marriages provide.
And, given the impact, albeit minor, that same sex unions could have on population control, I'm
beginning to see some advantages to the idea. When I mentioned this to my wife, she commented that
they would have kids through other methods.

She hadn't heard about this case, which could turn off a lot of sperm donors or surrogate mothers.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justic...perm-donation/



It's Kansas...nowadays sadly among the most backwards theocratic states.

Have you ever investigated the many types of "marriages" outlined in the
bible? It's an eye opener.

On 2/25/2014 9:58 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day
and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends
who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen.

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your
thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this
country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as
well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.











The Olympics are an international event. When we host the Olympics, we
get athletics and officials we don't much like because of their beliefs
or their country's beliefs.

Among the many girls I was privileged to date while a high schooler in
New Haven was a young lady who was overtly bisexual. I didn't give a
**** about that one way or the other, but as far as I know, I was the
only guy who was sexually active with her at that time (maybe because I
didn't care about her girl friends). Anyway, we both were friendly with
a gay guy and she asked me once whether I disliked him or mistrusted him
for being that way. The answer, of course, was no. I wasn't planning to
go to bed with him...what the hell did I care who he liked sexually.


Ahhhh. You fondness for the gay lesbian community goes back to the
beginning of your sexual adventures. Got it. Thanks for sharing.

On 2/24/2014 3:43 PM, Wayne.B wrote:

Varnish, Epifanes Wood Finish Gloss, about 8 to 10 coats when starting
from bare wood.

Stripping is done with a heat gun and hook blade scraper; followed by
sanding with 100 grit; bleaching/cleaning where needed; sanding again
with 220 grit; sanding again with 220 after every 2 or 3 coats of the
Epifanes; and ideally a top coat of Epifanes clear gloss. This year
I'm going to try wet sanding with Tung Oil before the first coat of
Epifanes. That is supposed to fill the grain and minimize later
sanding. Stay tuned.

I hired a guy to do all that when we first bought the boat and it
ended up costing over $6K. Now that I'm retired, we're doing it
ourselves.

That's what I like about aluminum...

On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:01:04 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 2/25/14, 9:55 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 09:20:03 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen.

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.

OK, but when folks here start calling you names, don't blame me. I also add TV shows and the news
which attempt to make 'gaydom' appear as the 'norm' in the USA.

My attitude towards same sex unions has changed totally. I don't agree that it is a marriage, but I
do agree that the union should provide the same legal advantages as heterosexual marriages provide.
And, given the impact, albeit minor, that same sex unions could have on population control, I'm
beginning to see some advantages to the idea. When I mentioned this to my wife, she commented that
they would have kids through other methods.

She hadn't heard about this case, which could turn off a lot of sperm donors or surrogate mothers.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/justic...perm-donation/



It's Kansas...nowadays sadly among the most backwards theocratic states.

Have you ever investigated the many types of "marriages" outlined in the
bible? It's an eye opener.

No. I've probably not 'studied' the Bible nearly as much as you have. I don't have the fear and/or
hatred of religion that you do.

On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:07:43 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/25/2014 9:58 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 9:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:54 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:48 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:27 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 2/25/14, 8:21 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/25/2014 8:04 AM, True North wrote:
Didn't the Beatles have a song on the Sgt Peppers album called 'When
I'm 64'?
Look at the bright side...you're only months away from your 'golden
years.
In my case it means one more pension to collect. ;-)



I have no complaints. I wouldn't want to be in my 30's in this day
and
age.




I'd like to be 25 again, on the day I visited one of my best friends
who
was ill and hospitalized at Yale-New Haven. Why I'd want to go back to
that day is not something I would disclose in this pigpen.

There are a few life events that I'd like to re-live but overall I am
happy where I am at. Getting older has many benefits, one of which is
that you really don't care what other people think of you, your
thoughts
or ideas as much as you do when you are younger.

The other reason is that although fundamentally an optimistic person
I've lost some of the enthusiasm I've had for the future of this
country
and the world in general. Maybe that's normal as you age. Things were
always better "back in my day" kinda thing. I've always been proud to
be an American (still am) but some of the changes and directions this
country is taking in the past 10 years or so is scary. Change is
inevitable but tradition and old school values have their place as
well.





I didn't much care what other people thought of me when I was younger,
either. And I thought this country took a horrific turn towards the
dark(er) side in January 1981 from which it probably never will recover.



You see, that's where we could never agree. The "turn" taken in 1981
was away from a disastrous period economically and foreign policy-wise
under the Carter administration. I hardly qualify it as a turn to a
"dark(er)" side. You often comment on the plight of the middle class.
The middle class didn't fare very well under Carter. We did much
better under Reagan.

I'll give you another, more current and controversial example. There
was a time in my life when I had little compassion for homosexuals and
their lifestyles. I didn't understand it and thought it was a choice
and not something one is "born as". Over the years I've become better
educated on the subject and have backed off realizing there's more to it
than I originally thought. I guess my current feeling is one of being
tolerant in my understanding and expressed opinions, but I'd never join
a march or cause to wave flags to promote homosexuality as a "normal"
lifestyle. Like you're attitude about religion, I don't care, nor is it
any of my business what people think or how they live ... just don't try
to "jam" it down my throat. Here's the rub though:

We have a president whose foreign policy includes purposely sending a
delegation of homosexuals to represent the United States in a country
that remains opposed to the homosexual lifestyle. I don't think much
of Putin, but what he and his citizens subscribe to is *their* business,
not ours.

Why are we trying to jam it down their throats? That, plus I think a
POTUS who thinks this idea was a great foreign policy initiative does
not have his job priorities straight.











The Olympics are an international event. When we host the Olympics, we
get athletics and officials we don't much like because of their beliefs
or their country's beliefs.

Among the many girls I was privileged to date while a high schooler in
New Haven was a young lady who was overtly bisexual. I didn't give a
**** about that one way or the other, but as far as I know, I was the
only guy who was sexually active with her at that time (maybe because I
didn't care about her girl friends). Anyway, we both were friendly with
a gay guy and she asked me once whether I disliked him or mistrusted him
for being that way. The answer, of course, was no. I wasn't planning to
go to bed with him...what the hell did I care who he liked sexually.


Ahhhh. You fondness for the gay lesbian community goes back to the
beginning of your sexual adventures. Got it. Thanks for sharing.

'Privileged to date'? Wowser. This girl must have been something really special.

I meant to ask if the girl was born bisexual, or if she just learned this appreciation of both sexes
later in life.

I'm too lazy to find his original post on this.