Yo Tim!
 

The title says it all.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/theres-...mons-insanity/

From the way I read it, the car is for sale now. You might want to add the little bugger to your
collection.

Yo Tim!
 

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 1:32:07 PM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
The title says it all.



http://blog.caranddriver.com/theres-...mons-insanity/



From the way I read it, the car is for sale now. You might want to add the little bugger to your

collection.

Man,t hat's neat, John. Good use for old cars and bike engines. back in the late 70's and early 80's the 'micro-midget racers were using CB 750 Honda engines for 12 mile dirt track racing. limited only by CC's one guy made a car using a Kawasaki 750 two-stroke triple. Bike stock they were 87 hp. Then when you raise the compression and put on expansion chamber exhaust it wasn't difficult to get a bit over 110 hp out of it.

The local tracks band him because he was 'non competative' kinda like nascar. Everybody runs the same engines, frames, restricted carb plates. so it comes to the skill of the driver, not the power of the car.

Yo Tim!
 

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:07:03 PM UTC-6, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, February 27, 2014 1:32:07 PM UTC-6, John H. wrote:

The title says it all.







http://blog.caranddriver.com/theres-...mons-insanity/







From the way I read it, the car is for sale now. You might want to add the little bugger to your



collection.



Man,t hat's neat, John. Good use for old cars and bike engines. back in the late 70's and early 80's the 'micro-midget' racers were using CB 750 Honda engines for 12 mile dirt track racing.



sorry, 1/2 mile oval tracks. not 12 mile...

Yo Tim!
 

On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 21:07:03 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, February 27, 2014 1:32:07 PM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
The title says it all.



http://blog.caranddriver.com/theres-...mons-insanity/



From the way I read it, the car is for sale now. You might want to add the little bugger to your

collection.

Man,t hat's neat, John. Good use for old cars and bike engines. back in the late 70's and early 80's the 'micro-midget racers were using CB 750 Honda engines for 12 mile dirt track racing. limited only by CC's one guy made a car using a Kawasaki 750 two-stroke triple. Bike stock they were 87 hp. Then when you raise the compression and put on expansion chamber exhaust it wasn't difficult to get a bit over 110 hp out of it.

The local tracks band him because he was 'non competative' kinda like nascar. Everybody runs the same engines, frames, restricted carb plates. so it comes to the skill of the driver, not the power of the car.

There's two parts to that story I love:

"The pistons were seized in the bores, beat them out with a torch and a hammer. The piston rings
came out in pieces. Forensics showed the bike had been parked because it had sheared one of its
lifters off, and the cam and lifter were wrecked."

But, they just got some parts and fixed it! I'd like to see pictures and a story just about that.
But the bottom line was typical Guzzi:

"The alternator died because we were overtaxing it with the two fans—we swapped batteries at each
driver change. The oil-pressure gauge started showing zero psi, yet it kept running, so we kept
driving it. Eventually, it crossed the finish on day two with the checkers."

Reminds me of the time one of my coils died, but the 850T got Sandy and I home on one cylinder -
from Munich to Stuttgart. The bike sounded like a 'Ma Deuce' going down the road without the plug,
but it got us home.

Yo Tim!
 

On Friday, February 28, 2014 6:31:44 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


But, they just got some parts and fixed it! I'd like to see pictures and a story just about that.

But the bottom line was typical Guzzi:



"The alternator died because we were overtaxing it with the two fans—we swapped batteries at each

driver change. The oil-pressure gauge started showing zero psi, yet it kept running, so we kept

driving it. Eventually, it crossed the finish on day two with the checkers."



Reminds me of the time one of my coils died, but the 850T got Sandy and I home on one cylinder -

from Munich to Stuttgart. The bike sounded like a 'Ma Deuce' going down the road without the plug,

but it got us home.

bet it shook like thunder too!

Yo Tim!
 

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:50:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 28, 2014 6:31:44 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


But, they just got some parts and fixed it! I'd like to see pictures and a story just about that.

But the bottom line was typical Guzzi:



"The alternator died because we were overtaxing it with the two fans—we swapped batteries at each

driver change. The oil-pressure gauge started showing zero psi, yet it kept running, so we kept

driving it. Eventually, it crossed the finish on day two with the checkers."



Reminds me of the time one of my coils died, but the 850T got Sandy and I home on one cylinder -

from Munich to Stuttgart. The bike sounded like a 'Ma Deuce' going down the road without the plug,

but it got us home.

bet it shook like thunder too!

Like shooting the M-2.

The other day you asked about Guzzi's big bike. I came across this review this morning.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-ambassador-review-91469.html

Yo Tim!
 

On 2/28/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:50:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 28, 2014 6:31:44 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


But, they just got some parts and fixed it! I'd like to see pictures and a story just about that.

But the bottom line was typical Guzzi:



"The alternator died because we were overtaxing it with the two fans—we swapped batteries at each

driver change. The oil-pressure gauge started showing zero psi, yet it kept running, so we kept

driving it. Eventually, it crossed the finish on day two with the checkers."



Reminds me of the time one of my coils died, but the 850T got Sandy and I home on one cylinder -

from Munich to Stuttgart. The bike sounded like a 'Ma Deuce' going down the road without the plug,

but it got us home.

bet it shook like thunder too!

Like shooting the M-2.

The other day you asked about Guzzi's big bike. I came across this review this morning.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-ambassador-review-91469.html



Almost hate to mention this but the picture in your link is a perfect
example of counter-steering. Very slight pressure against the direction
of the turn keep front fork and wheel aligned with rear wheel. You can
almost sense it.

http://www.motorcycle.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/358550-1/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-action-30.jpg

Yo Tim!
 

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:38:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/28/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:50:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 28, 2014 6:31:44 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


But, they just got some parts and fixed it! I'd like to see pictures and a story just about that.

But the bottom line was typical Guzzi:



"The alternator died because we were overtaxing it with the two fans—we swapped batteries at each

driver change. The oil-pressure gauge started showing zero psi, yet it kept running, so we kept

driving it. Eventually, it crossed the finish on day two with the checkers."



Reminds me of the time one of my coils died, but the 850T got Sandy and I home on one cylinder -

from Munich to Stuttgart. The bike sounded like a 'Ma Deuce' going down the road without the plug,

but it got us home.

bet it shook like thunder too!

Like shooting the M-2.

The other day you asked about Guzzi's big bike. I came across this review this morning.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-ambassador-review-91469.html



Almost hate to mention this but the picture in your link is a perfect
example of counter-steering. Very slight pressure against the direction
of the turn keep front fork and wheel aligned with rear wheel. You can
almost sense it.

http://www.motorcycle.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/358550-1/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-action-30.jpg

Yup, and it's a beautiful bike also!

Yo Tim!
 

On 2/28/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:38:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/28/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:50:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 28, 2014 6:31:44 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


But, they just got some parts and fixed it! I'd like to see pictures and a story just about that.

But the bottom line was typical Guzzi:



"The alternator died because we were overtaxing it with the two fans—we swapped batteries at each

driver change. The oil-pressure gauge started showing zero psi, yet it kept running, so we kept

driving it. Eventually, it crossed the finish on day two with the checkers."



Reminds me of the time one of my coils died, but the 850T got Sandy and I home on one cylinder -

from Munich to Stuttgart. The bike sounded like a 'Ma Deuce' going down the road without the plug,

but it got us home.

bet it shook like thunder too!

Like shooting the M-2.

The other day you asked about Guzzi's big bike. I came across this review this morning.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-ambassador-review-91469.html



Almost hate to mention this but the picture in your link is a perfect
example of counter-steering. Very slight pressure against the direction
of the turn keep front fork and wheel aligned with rear wheel. You can
almost sense it.

http://www.motorcycle.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/358550-1/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-action-30.jpg

Yup, and it's a beautiful bike also!



I am wondering how other big bike manufacturers like Moto-Guzzi are
dealing with EPA exhaust standards on their new bikes. Harley-Davidson
has been putting catalytic converters on all their bikes since 2010 and
the big, touring models for 2014 will be water-cooled vs the traditional
air cooling.

I heard about this when I bought my last UltraClassic. I went for a
2009 model to avoid the catalytic converter (which were new in the 2010
models). The ones equipped with a cat have to be tuned very lean to
meet EPA emission standards and the lean mixture makes them run hotter
than previous models. There was also talk at the time (apparently
true) that the big bikes would eventually have to go to liquid cooling
because air cooling had too many engine temp variables to meet the EPA
standards. The engine has to be kept at a fairly constant temp (like a
car) in order to meet the emission standards.

Even the 2009 model I had could burn the inside of your right leg if you
got caught in stop and go traffic on a hot day. You could have the bike
programmed to shut off the front cylinder under certain conditions
(stopped, clutch lever pulled, throttle at idle) which would allow the
front cylinder to simply pump air, minus fuel and ignition, in order to
lower the overall engine temp. As soon as you started to hit the
throttle and engage the clutch, it started firing again.

Yo Tim!
 

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:11:37 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/28/2014 9:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:38:11 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/28/2014 8:16 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 04:50:05 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Friday, February 28, 2014 6:31:44 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:


But, they just got some parts and fixed it! I'd like to see pictures and a story just about that.

But the bottom line was typical Guzzi:



"The alternator died because we were overtaxing it with the two fans—we swapped batteries at each

driver change. The oil-pressure gauge started showing zero psi, yet it kept running, so we kept

driving it. Eventually, it crossed the finish on day two with the checkers."



Reminds me of the time one of my coils died, but the 850T got Sandy and I home on one cylinder -

from Munich to Stuttgart. The bike sounded like a 'Ma Deuce' going down the road without the plug,

but it got us home.

bet it shook like thunder too!

Like shooting the M-2.

The other day you asked about Guzzi's big bike. I came across this review this morning.

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-ambassador-review-91469.html



Almost hate to mention this but the picture in your link is a perfect
example of counter-steering. Very slight pressure against the direction
of the turn keep front fork and wheel aligned with rear wheel. You can
almost sense it.

http://www.motorcycle.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/358550-1/2013-moto-guzzi-california-1400-touring-action-30.jpg

Yup, and it's a beautiful bike also!



I am wondering how other big bike manufacturers like Moto-Guzzi are
dealing with EPA exhaust standards on their new bikes. Harley-Davidson
has been putting catalytic converters on all their bikes since 2010 and
the big, touring models for 2014 will be water-cooled vs the traditional
air cooling.

I heard about this when I bought my last UltraClassic. I went for a
2009 model to avoid the catalytic converter (which were new in the 2010
models). The ones equipped with a cat have to be tuned very lean to
meet EPA emission standards and the lean mixture makes them run hotter
than previous models. There was also talk at the time (apparently
true) that the big bikes would eventually have to go to liquid cooling
because air cooling had too many engine temp variables to meet the EPA
standards. The engine has to be kept at a fairly constant temp (like a
car) in order to meet the emission standards.

Even the 2009 model I had could burn the inside of your right leg if you
got caught in stop and go traffic on a hot day. You could have the bike
programmed to shut off the front cylinder under certain conditions
(stopped, clutch lever pulled, throttle at idle) which would allow the
front cylinder to simply pump air, minus fuel and ignition, in order to
lower the overall engine temp. As soon as you started to hit the
throttle and engage the clutch, it started firing again.



Guzzis have had catalytic converters from about 2003 onward. From the Guzzi forums, it seems like
lots of folks get rid of them (illegally). I've had 'Competition Only' exhaust on my Guzzi since
about 1992, and haven't had a problem with any 'enforcers' yet. It's not as loud as a straight pipe
Harley, so I'm OK on the noise side - but not by much.

Guzzis are still air cooled. I've never had a problem with the heat from the engine, although the
cylinder design would indicate that a lot of heat would blow back on the legs. In cold weather, it's
nice to be able to lay hands on the valve covers at stop lights for a quick warm up. I do it moving
also. I wonder if that rear cylinder on Harleys doesn't get really hot because it's not in the air
flow. I see, looking at Google, they're starting to water cool their engines.

I'd never have thought that Harley would come up with something as advanced as one cylinder shutting
down at a stop light.