....not to worry about what is happening in Crimea...the Russians are
just conducting a traffic study.

On 3/8/2014 7:22 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

...not to worry about what is happening in Crimea...the Russians are
just conducting a traffic study.


I was thinking earlier today that it's interesting that little new info
or news is being released. Even the media seems to have lost interest
or have limited their coverage of events.

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/8/2014 7:22 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

...not to worry about what is happening in Crimea...the Russians are
just conducting a traffic study.


I was thinking earlier today that it's interesting that little new info
or news is being released. Even the media seems to have lost interest
or have limited their coverage of events.

They are being threatened at gunpoint.

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 19:25:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/8/2014 7:22 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

...not to worry about what is happening in Crimea...the Russians are
just conducting a traffic study.


I was thinking earlier today that it's interesting that little new info
or news is being released. Even the media seems to have lost interest
or have limited their coverage of events.


The Malaysian flight's getting the headlines, but there's a lot making the news also.

https://news.google.com/news/section?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Ukraine&topicsi d=FRONTPAGE&ict=ln&topicnv=__AB21PFxmNIToJcB-N7qV2ozhVUCPmO8pBiLiz5tdg-e0ixEKuEcu2mB4scX8PFl3LK4tQysjOpeusvDywqvJ15vuMTyf X1rSgEkpFz35cRzoGVnDsm7JFAMILPMPxNfZXM_OtOiEyFYRpv AQ8jSFc0KoCW2bNhcjS-4xfjAtUYVj5oeAFSrQCjyHRdoRTOTa1Jl9Ye_y8j7611sHxQaI omZQGNRqA3LcQwPEY0GD-ds_8mFPq7TysMkHhf1cia1YprLaN90q61nTTadSJo3BRQc_-Vf-2-curfSvNE96wp-hU0klBuDZUkGuHLnMdz2c4x_4jrCqbYuXhl3E8gSO0YA0saVFU iaUrrpTRsUgZNH4z051Fa6n7b7fuikVFdKwVSgQvUnQ9tsjHhi 6ymotAd941PXtndLq_fZF-5bPO3Z_b_6KQ0_C06njZIhOhMdevm2a1OyAP-8oaIKOqmpfoN6s9sLsdJSgd-2atSCYokyI5Re3qtVj0BzyzySmDtBtgQDhjyNJOGYv_tANiZLs wNsnN437BAusp88VOoSkG6Xx6c-WOTepq26NEDiHZKiZh4IBe2IwH91kDUp57hovGV9r8uj6MYF0h rQJ-1G6suIURW_dMlNbXVgwBBUTL0Nw8OdfM2iivv3T0PuaJAbK9LP 1y4Tpb117g8K5StRw-lLfzUr2fmUd2OCm05zdU3auAESQRb7fKtYq7Kp_KbzTS2Iehxl KLsPUkg%3D%3D&siidp=5450974a84b96ce7c675e346157786 d620a3

On 3/8/14, 8:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 19:25:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/8/2014 7:22 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

...not to worry about what is happening in Crimea...the Russians are
just conducting a traffic study.


I was thinking earlier today that it's interesting that little new info
or news is being released. Even the media seems to have lost interest
or have limited their coverage of events.


The Malaysian flight's getting the headlines, but there's a lot making the news also.

https://news.google.com/news/section?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Ukraine&topicsi d=FRONTPAGE&ict=ln&topicnv=__AB21PFxmNIToJcB-N7qV2ozhVUCPmO8pBiLiz5tdg-e0ixEKuEcu2mB4scX8PFl3LK4tQysjOpeusvDywqvJ15vuMTyf X1rSgEkpFz35cRzoGVnDsm7JFAMILPMPxNfZXM_OtOiEyFYRpv AQ8jSFc0KoCW2bNhcjS-4xfjAtUYVj5oeAFSrQCjyHRdoRTOTa1Jl9Ye_y8j7611sHxQaI omZQGNRqA3LcQwPEY0GD-ds_8mFPq7TysMkHhf1cia1YprLaN90q61nTTadSJo3BRQc_-Vf-2-curfSvNE96wp-hU0klBuDZUkGuHLnMdz2c4x_4jrCqbYuXhl3E8gSO0YA0saVFU iaUrrpTRsUgZNH4z051Fa6n7b7fuikVFdKwVSgQvUnQ9tsjHhi 6ymotAd941PXtndLq_fZF-5bPO3Z_b_6KQ0_C06njZIhOhMdevm2a1OyAP-8oaIKOqmpfoN6s9sLsdJSgd-2atSCYokyI5Re3qtVj0BzyzySmDtBtgQDhjyNJOGYv_tANiZLs wNsnN437BAusp88VOoSkG6Xx6c-WOTepq26NEDiHZKiZh4IBe2IwH91kDUp57hovGV9r8uj6MYF0h rQJ-1G6suIURW_dMlNbXVgwBBUTL0Nw8OdfM2iivv3T0PuaJAbK9LP 1y4Tpb117g8K5StRw-lLfzUr2fmUd2OCm05zdU3auAESQRb7fKtYq7Kp_KbzTS2Iehxl KLsPUkg%3D%3D&siidp=5450974a84b96ce7c675e346157786 d620a3



The Soviet states had no notion of democracy while under the thumb of
Russia, and with a couple of exceptions, most of them still don't. The
East Germans were saved by reunification with West Germany. The Poles
and the Czechs seem to be doing better than most of the rest.

On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 21:04:34 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/8/14, 8:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 19:25:48 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/8/2014 7:22 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:

...not to worry about what is happening in Crimea...the Russians are
just conducting a traffic study.


I was thinking earlier today that it's interesting that little new info
or news is being released. Even the media seems to have lost interest
or have limited their coverage of events.


The Malaysian flight's getting the headlines, but there's a lot making the news also.

https://news.google.com/news/section?pz=1&cf=all&ned=us&hl=en&q=Ukraine&topicsi d=FRONTPAGE&ict=ln&topicnv=__AB21PFxmNIToJcB-N7qV2ozhVUCPmO8pBiLiz5tdg-e0ixEKuEcu2mB4scX8PFl3LK4tQysjOpeusvDywqvJ15vuMTyf X1rSgEkpFz35cRzoGVnDsm7JFAMILPMPxNfZXM_OtOiEyFYRpv AQ8jSFc0KoCW2bNhcjS-4xfjAtUYVj5oeAFSrQCjyHRdoRTOTa1Jl9Ye_y8j7611sHxQaI omZQGNRqA3LcQwPEY0GD-ds_8mFPq7TysMkHhf1cia1YprLaN90q61nTTadSJo3BRQc_-Vf-2-curfSvNE96wp-hU0klBuDZUkGuHLnMdz2c4x_4jrCqbYuXhl3E8gSO0YA0saVFU iaUrrpTRsUgZNH4z051Fa6n7b7fuikVFdKwVSgQvUnQ9tsjHhi 6ymotAd941PXtndLq_fZF-5bPO3Z_b_6KQ0_C06njZIhOhMdevm2a1OyAP-8oaIKOqmpfoN6s9sLsdJSgd-2atSCYokyI5Re3qtVj0BzyzySmDtBtgQDhjyNJOGYv_tANiZLs wNsnN437BAusp88VOoSkG6Xx6c-WOTepq26NEDiHZKiZh4IBe2IwH91kDUp57hovGV9r8uj6MYF0h rQJ-1G6suIURW_dMlNbXVgwBBUTL0Nw8OdfM2iivv3T0PuaJAbK9LP 1y4Tpb117g8K5StRw-lLfzUr2fmUd2OCm05zdU3auAESQRb7fKtYq7Kp_KbzTS2Iehxl KLsPUkg%3D%3D&siidp=5450974a84b96ce7c675e346157786 d620a3



The Soviet states had no notion of democracy while under the thumb of
Russia, and with a couple of exceptions, most of them still don't. The
East Germans were saved by reunification with West Germany. The Poles
and the Czechs seem to be doing better than most of the rest.

I've not been to Poland. But if one were to ask me what city to visit in Europe, I'd say Prague
(Praha), Czechoslovakia. The city is beautiful and the people love Americans (or did when I was
there in '89-'90. On the town square was the 'America House', a place where Americans could drop in,
be greeted by Czech college kids wanting to practice their English, and be given as much hot popcorn
as they could eat. It became a popular attraction for all, including Germans. But, at the border
crossing, the Czech guards would spot the American tags and wave them to the front of the line. Of
course, being on a motorcycle meant one could 'white line' to the front. From Stuttgart the trip
took about seven hours by car, and about three and a half hours by motorcycle.

I hope the Russian taking of Crimea doesn't lead to taking Ukraine and then heading west. I don't
think there's much anyone could/would do about it - and I think Putin knows that.