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On 3/13/2014 7:56 PM, Earl wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: On 3/12/14, 7:38 PM, KC wrote: Showing me how I could turn out if I let it get to me, showing me that sitting around bitching about everybody (all the time not fooling anybody) else and what they do, won't get me there.... Gotta' admit. I think I have had some bad breaks but I ain't ready to give up yet... I don't want to be like our friend from maryland as I get older and less able like he is... Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere. I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language that important. I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations" here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the software I used to draw the site ![]() completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of ****, not worth the time folks here give you. "I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to ridicule, mock, and taunt." |
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On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote: Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere. I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language that important. I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations" here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the software I used to draw the site ![]() completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of ****, not worth the time folks here give you. Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you don't have such knowledge. |
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:40:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere. I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language that important. I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations" here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the software I used to draw the site ![]() completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of ****, not worth the time folks here give you. Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you don't have such knowledge. === Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a tree that needs to come down. |
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On 3/13/2014 8:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:40:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere. I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language that important. I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations" here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the software I used to draw the site ![]() completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of ****, not worth the time folks here give you. Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you don't have such knowledge. === Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a tree that needs to come down. harry not understanding that it doesn't matter what my ESL customer thinks, it's what the folks coming to spend money at his business think... it's not hard to see why he has two bankruptcies ![]() I took a similar approach (sell the sizzle) with a little website called smallboats.com about 15 years ago. The style went over well with folks "feeling like they know me" after reading the site, and sending me thousands of dollars from hundreds of miles away, for a boat I was to build for them in the future.... I still get all the emails sent to them cc to me from testing the site and such. They are getting a great response but I have to add more "firewood" to the front page now so I am going to fit in a seasonal area there somewhere eventually... but I have seen no complaints really other than that. I am looking at simplifying the front page at some point but the customer likes it so far so....... |
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On 3/13/2014 8:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:40:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote: On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote: F*O*A*D wrote: Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job anywhere. I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language that important. I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations" here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the software I used to draw the site ![]() completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of ****, not worth the time folks here give you. Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you don't have such knowledge. === Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a tree that needs to come down. One thing I did for instance was move the video that used to come up on what would probably be the first picture folks might click on.. After hearing Dicks CC, I decided that having a vid load first might be offputting so I put it deeper into the site. Hopefully now the first thing folks see, "isn't" a "please wait for video" note ![]() See Dick, I'm listening ![]() |
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:59:23 -0400, KC wrote:
Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you don't have such knowledge. === Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a tree that needs to come down. One thing I did for instance was move the video that used to come up on what would probably be the first picture folks might click on.. After hearing Dicks CC, I decided that having a vid load first might be offputting so I put it deeper into the site. Hopefully now the first thing folks see, "isn't" a "please wait for video" note ![]() See Dick, I'm listening ![]() === He knows of what he speaks. |
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On 3/14/2014 12:55 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 21:59:23 -0400, KC wrote: Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written," because you don't have such knowledge. === Style inconsistencies are *extremely* important to a guy who has a tree that needs to come down. One thing I did for instance was move the video that used to come up on what would probably be the first picture folks might click on.. After hearing Dicks CC, I decided that having a vid load first might be offputting so I put it deeper into the site. Hopefully now the first thing folks see, "isn't" a "please wait for video" note ![]() See Dick, I'm listening ![]() === He knows of what he speaks. Not really. My comments on Scott's website were just based on my initial reaction to it, putting myself in a prospective customer's frame of mind. I've created a few websites in the past but nothing as fancy as what Scott is putting together. I did the original one for the company I had but then had a professional service redo it once the business started to grow. It was mainly due to the clientele who would be viewing it who were mostly big, major corporations. I wrote the script but the service added the pictures, artwork and determined the format in which the information was presented. The early drafts were getting too busy and complex but the final version was made more simple and easy to navigate. The goofy website I created for the guitar shop was (and remains) about as simple as they come. At one point (about 3 years ago) I created a much "fancier" one that had flash presentations, music and a more complex path to follow for information. The customer base the shop had immediately started complaining. They liked the original, simple to navigate format. So, after a month of testing the new one, I went back to the original. I don't maintain it anymore, but neither I or Rick who now maintains it ever worry too much about grammar errors and style inconsistencies. We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors. Both he and I try to spell things correctly but an occasional goof or typo doesn't seem to bother anyone. I've never heard anyone complain about a misspelled word. The only complaints were when I tried to make it too fancy and it became more difficult to navigate. It still averages over 10,000 "hits" per month which is incredible when one considers the size of the shop. I think website owners are often more impressed with the their websites than the people who visit them are and tend to over-do it with glitz and fanciness. Understandable, but if the intent is to sell items or a service, the information presented should be easy to view and fast to acquire. The other thing is that physiologically a complex website that is too "busy" and full of flash presentations and glitz suggests $$$$ IMO. Simple suggests affordable. People don't want to be immediately intimidated when first introduced to a company or service. They want to feel comfortable and welcome. Overall I think Scott has done a great job in responding to his client's desires and requests. Time will tell if it is effective in terms of selling the services they provide. Just my opinion. |
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On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors. More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. ![]() Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of language. |
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On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors. More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. ![]() Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of language. Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable language and structure. I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure. |
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On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote: On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors. More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans. ![]() Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of language. Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable language and structure. I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure. And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes to the dumbing down of 'Merica. |
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