On 3/14/2014 10:28 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans.

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.


I thought you were a "progressive". Culture, language and demographics
change and all that stuff.

How many people do you know today that speak or write English in the
same manner as Shakespeare or the Pilgrims? Go visit Plymouth
Plantation and try to understand what the role players are saying. I
guess we are all "dumbed down", including you.

On 3/14/14, 10:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 10:28 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans.

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum,
wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.


I thought you were a "progressive". Culture, language and demographics
change and all that stuff.

How many people do you know today that speak or write English in the
same manner as Shakespeare or the Pilgrims? Go visit Plymouth
Plantation and try to understand what the role players are saying. I
guess we are all "dumbed down", including you.




Proper evolution in business and social language and the art of using
language do not have to include sloppiness and lack of attention to
spelling, grammar and usage. It's good to avoid broken language, slang,
and jargon in formal speech and writing. If we don't, we end up speaking
and writing in a hundred varieties of patois or lingua francas.

If I visit a commercial website *full* of language errors, I attribute
that to sloppiness and laziness on the part of the site's sponsor, and
assume the sponsor's business is run in a sloppy fashion, too. If I see
a contract proposal full of the same sorts of errors, the warning
signals go off, because if the language is sloppy, the fulfillment is
likely to be, too, and that means disputes down the road.

I sometimes partner with a web designer in India who is involved with
the labor movement there. He's a first-rate designer and programmer, and
he speaks and writes English at a level that makes it easy for us to
communicate and laugh at each other when we stumble on a word or phrase.
He has the stereotypical accent of an Indian who speaks English. As
talented as he is, I wouldn't let him write a word of final copy for the
websites I manage. He knows our language, but his knowledge of idiomatic
'Mericanese is lacking.

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:28:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans.

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.

You need to walk downtown and tell the folks you meet on the sidewalk how 'poor' their grammar and
sentence structure are. You'd probably come home with your ass in your hands, or your head shoved up
there.

You're a joke, Krause.

On 3/14/2014 1:47 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 10:28:17 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans.

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English - contributes
to the dumbing down of 'Merica.

You need to walk downtown and tell the folks you meet on the sidewalk how 'poor' their grammar and
sentence structure are. You'd probably come home with your ass in your hands, or your head shoved up
there.

You're a joke, Krause.


That's for sure.. He really doesn't know what grammar and spelling I had
issues with on the site, if you notice he never pointed anything out, he
just ran his mouth.

I got the home page proof read and I think we got it down... I am sure
harry will say otherwise, but he doesn't know ****..

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job
anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not
surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he
isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to
pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who
has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written,"
because you don't have such knowledge.

"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans.

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum, wrecked.boats,
is the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.

"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/14/14, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/14/2014 8:22 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/14/14, 1:47 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
We are not trying to sell guitars to English majors.


More advocacy for the dumbing down of 'Merica and 'Mericans.

Fortunately, the clients for the handful of websites I design and
maintain are sticklers for proper English. This forum,
wrecked.boats, is
the appropriate outlet for trash talk and careless, trashy use of
language.


Nothing to do with the dumbing down of anybody. The idea is to get a
message across using fundamentally understandable and acceptable
language and structure.

I was more interested in being awarded a $800K contract for a thin film
deposition system or handed a check for $1,700 for a guitar than
receiving an "A" for using proper grammar or sentence structure.





And that attitude - the acceptance of substandard English -
contributes to the dumbing down of 'Merica.
"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 20:41:59 -0400, Earl wrote:

"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

===

OK Earl, I think we got your message.

On 3/14/2014 8:41 PM, Earl wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/13/14, 8:14 PM, KC wrote:

F*O*A*D wrote:

Less able? No one I know in the real world is *less able* than you
are. Hell, man, you've never been able to hang onto a real job
anywhere.

I do wish you success with your web design business...just make sure
potential clients don't consider proper use of the English language
that important.


I am really not too worried harry... If there were any real issues left
one of the others here would chime in. I am sure your "observations"
here on this matter are no more informed than your opinion on the
software I used to draw the site Your opinion harry, really is
completely useless, and uninvited, but at the same time completely
predictable and expected... You are just a worthless little piece of
****, not worth the time folks here give you.

Your web page, unless you've changed it drastically since you last
posted the URL, has a good number of grammar errors and style
inconsistencies. I did not look close enough to see if there were
spelling errors, too. That you don't see any of these is not
surprising, and since your client's native language isn't English, he
isn't likely to notice, either. If I were in your shoes and trying to
pass myself off as a professional-level web guy, I'd find someone who
has professional-level knowledge of "English as she is written,"
because you don't have such knowledge.

Well, I know you studied it looking.... so I guess my front page is
doing fine

"I'm just trying to fit in as much as my digestive track allows with the
right-wing slime whose almost entire reason for existence here is to
ridicule, mock, and taunt."

On 3/15/2014 12:59 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014 14:19:44 -0400, KC wrote:


That's for sure.. He really doesn't know what grammar and spelling I had
issues with on the site, if you notice he never pointed anything out, he
just ran his mouth.

I got the home page proof read and I think we got it down... I am sure
harry will say otherwise, but he doesn't know ****..

I wasn't really offended by the first draft.
I would be looking for a tree man, not a grammar teacher and I might
be a little suspicious if his page was too slick. You are really
looking for tree cutting experience, the right tools and references
when you have a guy swinging a few tons of tree over your house.


Thanks... I think we have that covered but I am still building