On 3/17/14, 12:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 11:30 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 3/17/2014 9:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

... and my thoughts are increasingly becoming:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/img005.jpg?t=1395062020



Another Egg?


No. Don't want another sportsfish type boat. Unless it's cheap.



You might like one of these...I sure do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YokmT8Kft8

On 3/17/2014 1:06 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 12:56 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 11:30 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 3/17/2014 9:17 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

... and my thoughts are increasingly becoming:

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy303/Eisboch/img005.jpg?t=1395062020




Another Egg?


No. Don't want another sportsfish type boat. Unless it's cheap.



You might like one of these...I sure do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YokmT8Kft8

It has the look of a Bayliner.

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:25:10 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

You might like one of these...I sure do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YokmT8Kft8

It has the look of a Bayliner.

===

It does, and it's single engine, not particularly desirable for close
quarters maneuvering with a high profile, flybridge design like that.
Once the wind catches you things get very dicey if you are near docks
and other boats.

On 3/17/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:25:10 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

You might like one of these...I sure do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YokmT8Kft8

It has the look of a Bayliner.

===

It does, and it's single engine, not particularly desirable for close
quarters maneuvering with a high profile, flybridge design like that.
Once the wind catches you things get very dicey if you are near docks
and other boats.



The 34 does sorta have a Bayliner look to it, but I like some of their
other models.

Although single screw, the boat shown in the video had both bow and
stern thrusters which overcome some of the close quarter maneuvering
challenges. The single screw 36' Grand Banks we had was equipped with a
hydraulically powered stern thruster which was useful although it was
not particularly powerful. It was still fun learning "back and fill".

I understand that Beneteau boats have a very good reputation but I've
never been aboard one. I like this one though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZwWXyQFcA

On 3/17/2014 2:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:25:10 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

You might like one of these...I sure do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YokmT8Kft8

It has the look of a Bayliner.

===

It does, and it's single engine, not particularly desirable for close
quarters maneuvering with a high profile, flybridge design like that.
Once the wind catches you things get very dicey if you are near docks
and other boats.



The 34 does sorta have a Bayliner look to it, but I like some of their
other models.

Although single screw, the boat shown in the video had both bow and
stern thrusters which overcome some of the close quarter maneuvering
challenges. The single screw 36' Grand Banks we had was equipped with a
hydraulically powered stern thruster which was useful although it was
not particularly powerful. It was still fun learning "back and fill".

I understand that Beneteau boats have a very good reputation but I've
never been aboard one. I like this one though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZwWXyQFcA


Here we go. Now I just need to find a one acre barge with grass that I
can tow for the horses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfyzrmjaFZ4

On 3/17/2014 2:57 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 3/17/2014 1:52 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:25:10 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

You might like one of these...I sure do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YokmT8Kft8

It has the look of a Bayliner.

===

It does, and it's single engine, not particularly desirable for close
quarters maneuvering with a high profile, flybridge design like that.
Once the wind catches you things get very dicey if you are near docks
and other boats.



The 34 does sorta have a Bayliner look to it, but I like some of their
other models.

Although single screw, the boat shown in the video had both bow and
stern thrusters which overcome some of the close quarter maneuvering
challenges. The single screw 36' Grand Banks we had was equipped with a
hydraulically powered stern thruster which was useful although it was
not particularly powerful. It was still fun learning "back and fill".

I understand that Beneteau boats have a very good reputation but I've
never been aboard one. I like this one though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZwWXyQFcA

Why is there a target on each side of the hull?




Those are big, smoked glass windows that are in the master stateroom.
Here's another video where the guy is showing the boat internal areas.
(It starts out looking like the other video, but is different). He gets
to the main stateroom about 2/3rds of the way through the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3LYpdEkAQ

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:39:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Here we go. Now I just need to find a one acre barge with grass that I
can tow for the horses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfyzrmjaFZ4

===

It looks like New England to Florida is about 4,000 gallons each way.
Let's hope the price of diesel doesn't get too much higher.

On 3/17/2014 4:09 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:39:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Here we go. Now I just need to find a one acre barge with grass that I
can tow for the horses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfyzrmjaFZ4

===

It looks like New England to Florida is about 4,000 gallons each way.
Let's hope the price of diesel doesn't get too much higher.



I hear you.

I was a little surprised at the fuel burn of the 52' Beneteau.

With two 600hp Cummins diesels it burns 27 GPH at 14 knots and 60 GPH
at 24.7 knots.

The 52' Navigator I had with two, 375 hp Volvo diesels burned 25-26 GPH
at 19 knots. It topped out at about the same (24 knots with a clean
hull) as the Beneteau but I don't remember what the burn rate was.
One of Navigator's claims to fame is a very fuel efficient hull, but
still that's quite a difference in hp.

The Beneteau must be a much heavier boat.

On 3/17/14, 4:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2014 4:09 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:39:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Here we go. Now I just need to find a one acre barge with grass that I
can tow for the horses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfyzrmjaFZ4

===

It looks like New England to Florida is about 4,000 gallons each way.
Let's hope the price of diesel doesn't get too much higher.



I hear you.

I was a little surprised at the fuel burn of the 52' Beneteau.

With two 600hp Cummins diesels it burns 27 GPH at 14 knots and 60 GPH
at 24.7 knots.

The 52' Navigator I had with two, 375 hp Volvo diesels burned 25-26 GPH
at 19 knots. It topped out at about the same (24 knots with a clean
hull) as the Beneteau but I don't remember what the burn rate was.
One of Navigator's claims to fame is a very fuel efficient hull, but
still that's quite a difference in hp.

The Beneteau must be a much heavier boat.


The 52' Beneteau has been replaced by a 50-footer with IPS drives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO9wBpzIkjw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3HFIgkxo-E


Really nice boats that take advantage of modern design developments.

In article ,
says...


Those are big, smoked glass windows that are in the master stateroom.
Here's another video where the guy is showing the boat internal areas.
(It starts out looking like the other video, but is different). He gets
to the main stateroom about 2/3rds of the way through the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX3LYpdEkAQ

I personally just don't "get" having a boat like that.
You give up a lot of seaworthiness, ease of maintenance, fuel
consumption and reliability for totally unnecessary "creature comforts."
Fuel consumption is a product of hull design and weight.
But different strokes.
If I had the money to spend I'd design a light trawler capable of 15
mpg. Maybe 6 knots cruising speed. Or a cat.
It can be done. Wouldn't be a nice ride in heavy seas.
So stay away from them.
But "the need for speed" is great among us.