....did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of the experienced guys let me
'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a trainer, but without the SAFE
technology.

Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is risky. We didn't have any
real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the airplane as I had it in a
nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my own, but it was, after all, his
airplane!

Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up my airplane. Looking at this
one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:

http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp

....even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!

On 3/22/14, 12:29 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
...did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of the experienced guys let me
'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a trainer, but without the SAFE
technology.

Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is risky. We didn't have any
real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the airplane as I had it in a
nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my own, but it was, after all, his
airplane!

Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up my airplane. Looking at this
one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:

http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp

...even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!



Johnny, you weren't flying, and you won't be. You're playing with model
airplanes. When a relative of mine plays with his radio-controlled model
trains, he doesn't think he is a railroad engineer.

--
Rand Paul & Ted Cruz…your 2016 GOP nominees, because ‘Mericans deserve
crazy!

On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:45:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/22/14, 12:29 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
...did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of the experienced guys let me
'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a trainer, but without the SAFE
technology.

Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is risky. We didn't have any
real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the airplane as I had it in a
nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my own, but it was, after all, his
airplane!

Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up my airplane. Looking at this
one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:

http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp

...even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!



Johnny, you weren't flying, and you won't be. You're playing with model
airplanes. When a relative of mine plays with his radio-controlled model
trains, he doesn't think he is a railroad engineer.

Glad you enjoyed a sociable post, FOAD!!

Did I say I was a 'pilot'? The model airplane flies. I control it's flight.

From Wikipedia:

Pilot (Aircraft)

"A pilot or aviator is a person actively involved in flying an aircraft. Pilot is a somewhat more
precise term, as the pilot by definition directly controls the aircraft whereas the slightly broader
term aviator is a person who, though actively involved in flying the aircraft (whether plane,
rotary-wing, powered or unpowered), does not necessarily directly control its path."

Aircraft

"An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the
atmosphere of a planet."

Gosh. Maybe for once your command of the English language leads you astray.

On 3/22/14, 12:57 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:45:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/22/14, 12:29 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
...did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of the experienced guys let me
'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a trainer, but without the SAFE
technology.

Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is risky. We didn't have any
real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the airplane as I had it in a
nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my own, but it was, after all, his
airplane!

Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up my airplane. Looking at this
one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:

http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp

...even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!



Johnny, you weren't flying, and you won't be. You're playing with model
airplanes. When a relative of mine plays with his radio-controlled model
trains, he doesn't think he is a railroad engineer.

Glad you enjoyed a sociable post, FOAD!!

Did I say I was a 'pilot'? The model airplane flies. I control it's flight.

From Wikipedia:

Pilot (Aircraft)

"A pilot or aviator is a person actively involved in flying an aircraft. Pilot is a somewhat more
precise term, as the pilot by definition directly controls the aircraft whereas the slightly broader
term aviator is a person who, though actively involved in flying the aircraft (whether plane,
rotary-wing, powered or unpowered), does not necessarily directly control its path."

Aircraft

"An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the
atmosphere of a planet."

Gosh. Maybe for once your command of the English language leads you astray.



Whatever floats your non-existent boat. You aren't flying, and neither
are the guys controlling the drones.

--
Rand Paul & Ted Cruz…your 2016 GOP nominees, because ‘Mericans deserve
crazy!

On 3/22/2014 12:45 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/22/14, 12:29 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
...did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of
the experienced guys let me
'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a
trainer, but without the SAFE
technology.

Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is
risky. We didn't have any
real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the
airplane as I had it in a
nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my
own, but it was, after all, his
airplane!

Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up
my airplane. Looking at this
one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:

http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp

...even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!



Johnny, you weren't flying, and you won't be. You're playing with model
airplanes. When a relative of mine plays with his radio-controlled model
trains, he doesn't think he is a railroad engineer.

Would you please butt out.

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:57:00 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:45:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 3/22/14, 12:29 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:

...did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of the experienced guys let me

'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a trainer, but without the SAFE

technology.



Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is risky. We didn't have any

real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the airplane as I had it in a

nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my own, but it was, after all, his

airplane!



Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up my airplane. Looking at this

one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:



http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp



...even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!







Johnny, you weren't flying, and you won't be. You're playing with model

airplanes. When a relative of mine plays with his radio-controlled model

trains, he doesn't think he is a railroad engineer.



Glad you enjoyed a sociable post, FOAD!!



Did I say I was a 'pilot'? The model airplane flies. I control it's flight.



From Wikipedia:



Pilot (Aircraft)



"A pilot or aviator is a person actively involved in flying an aircraft. Pilot is a somewhat more

precise term, as the pilot by definition directly controls the aircraft whereas the slightly broader

term aviator is a person who, though actively involved in flying the aircraft (whether plane,

rotary-wing, powered or unpowered), does not necessarily directly control its path."



Aircraft



"An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the

atmosphere of a planet."



Gosh. Maybe for once your command of the English language leads you astray.

What a totally wrong asshole harry is.

In some ways, *flying* an RC airplane is more difficult that flying a full-scale one. There is no first person experience, no seat-of-the-pants feeling, no horizon to look at, no instruments to gauge your flight performance, and no stall buzzer. Many full scale pilots have bought RC planes, brought them to flying fields thinking they could fly them because, well, they are "real" pilots, them promptly crashed them. The few that eat humble pie come back with trainers and have a ball learning with an instructor.

Welcome to the world of flying RC airplanes. Once you climb the rather steep learning curve, I predict you'll love flying RC.

On 3/22/2014 3:31 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:57:00 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:45:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 3/22/14, 12:29 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:

...did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of the experienced guys let me

'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a trainer, but without the SAFE

technology.



Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is risky. We didn't have any

real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the airplane as I had it in a

nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my own, but it was, after all, his

airplane!



Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up my airplane. Looking at this

one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:



http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp



...even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!







Johnny, you weren't flying, and you won't be. You're playing with model

airplanes. When a relative of mine plays with his radio-controlled model

trains, he doesn't think he is a railroad engineer.



Glad you enjoyed a sociable post, FOAD!!



Did I say I was a 'pilot'? The model airplane flies. I control it's flight.



From Wikipedia:



Pilot (Aircraft)



"A pilot or aviator is a person actively involved in flying an aircraft. Pilot is a somewhat more

precise term, as the pilot by definition directly controls the aircraft whereas the slightly broader

term aviator is a person who, though actively involved in flying the aircraft (whether plane,

rotary-wing, powered or unpowered), does not necessarily directly control its path."



Aircraft



"An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the

atmosphere of a planet."



Gosh. Maybe for once your command of the English language leads you astray.
.
What a totally wrong asshole harry is.

In some ways, *flying* an RC airplane is more difficult that flying a full-scale one. There is no first person experience, no seat-of-the-pants feeling, no horizon to look at, no instruments to gauge your flight performance, and no stall buzzer. Many full scale pilots have bought RC planes, brought them to flying fields thinking they could fly them because, well, they are "real" pilots, them promptly crashed them. The few that eat humble pie come back with trainers and have a ball learning with an instructor.

Welcome to the world of flying RC airplanes. Once you climb the rather steep learning curve, I predict you'll love flying RC.


As usual, Harry doesn't know Jack Shidt

On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:59:48 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/22/14, 12:57 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:45:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 3/22/14, 12:29 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:
...did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of the experienced guys let me
'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a trainer, but without the SAFE
technology.

Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is risky. We didn't have any
real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the airplane as I had it in a
nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my own, but it was, after all, his
airplane!

Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up my airplane. Looking at this
one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:

http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp

...even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!



Johnny, you weren't flying, and you won't be. You're playing with model
airplanes. When a relative of mine plays with his radio-controlled model
trains, he doesn't think he is a railroad engineer.

Glad you enjoyed a sociable post, FOAD!!

Did I say I was a 'pilot'? The model airplane flies. I control it's flight.

From Wikipedia:

Pilot (Aircraft)

"A pilot or aviator is a person actively involved in flying an aircraft. Pilot is a somewhat more
precise term, as the pilot by definition directly controls the aircraft whereas the slightly broader
term aviator is a person who, though actively involved in flying the aircraft (whether plane,
rotary-wing, powered or unpowered), does not necessarily directly control its path."

Aircraft

"An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the
atmosphere of a planet."

Gosh. Maybe for once your command of the English language leads you astray.



Whatever floats your non-existent boat. You aren't flying, and neither
are the guys controlling the drones.

I am not flying, the airplane is flying. I am piloting the flying airplane when it is flying.

You, of all people, should not be discussing the existence or non-existence of anything. How are
your owls doing? Are they living in your Maryland-red barn?

On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:31:11 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 12:57:00 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2014 12:45:12 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



On 3/22/14, 12:29 PM, Mucho Loco wrote:

...did not happen, at least with my airplane. Too windy. But, one of the experienced guys let me

'buddy box' with him and his Super Cub airplane - which is also a trainer, but without the SAFE

technology.



Had fun, but can now understand why flying these things in the wind is risky. We didn't have any

real close calls, but there were several times he took control of the airplane as I had it in a

nosedive to the ground. I 'think' I could have pulled it out on my own, but it was, after all, his

airplane!



Lot's of fun, learned that I'd best get a simulator before I smash up my airplane. Looking at this

one, which already has my airplane and transmitter programmed therein:



http://www.phoenix-sim.com/default.asp



...even shows my airplane on the bottom of the page!







Johnny, you weren't flying, and you won't be. You're playing with model

airplanes. When a relative of mine plays with his radio-controlled model

trains, he doesn't think he is a railroad engineer.



Glad you enjoyed a sociable post, FOAD!!



Did I say I was a 'pilot'? The model airplane flies. I control it's flight.



From Wikipedia:



Pilot (Aircraft)



"A pilot or aviator is a person actively involved in flying an aircraft. Pilot is a somewhat more

precise term, as the pilot by definition directly controls the aircraft whereas the slightly broader

term aviator is a person who, though actively involved in flying the aircraft (whether plane,

rotary-wing, powered or unpowered), does not necessarily directly control its path."



Aircraft



"An aircraft is a machine that is able to fly by gaining support from the air, or, in general, the

atmosphere of a planet."



Gosh. Maybe for once your command of the English language leads you astray.

What a totally wrong asshole harry is.

In some ways, *flying* an RC airplane is more difficult that flying a full-scale one. There is no first person experience, no seat-of-the-pants feeling, no horizon to look at, no instruments to gauge your flight performance, and no stall buzzer. Many full scale pilots have bought RC planes, brought them to flying fields thinking they could fly them because, well, they are "real" pilots, them promptly crashed them. The few that eat humble pie come back with trainers and have a ball learning with an instructor.

Welcome to the world of flying RC airplanes. Once you climb the rather steep learning curve, I predict you'll love flying RC.

I loved the short time on the stick today. I did go buy a simulator though. You're right about 'full
scale' flying. In Vietnam I had the chance to take the stick on an OV-10 for about a half hour, with
the pilot telling me which way to go. We'd finished the missions and were just joy riding. It *is*
much easier to 'fly' the thing when you have a horizon and can feel what the airplane is doing.
Plus, you're always headed in the same direction as the airplane and don't have to worry about
'backwards' steering. It's cool.

On Saturday, March 22, 2014 2:17:31 PM UTC-7, John H. wrote:


scale' flying. In Vietnam I had the chance to take the stick on an OV-10 for about a half hour, with

the pilot telling me which way to go. We'd finished the missions and were just joy riding. It *is*

much easier to 'fly' the thing when you have a horizon and can feel what the airplane is doing.

Plus, you're always headed in the same direction as the airplane and don't have to worry about

'backwards' steering. It's cool.

Wow, John. YOu got to drive a Bronco for a bit? That's way cool!