....before everyone in Texas is shot dead?

“A soldier who was being evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder
opened fire at Fort Hood on Wednesday, killing three people and wounding
16 before killing himself, the authorities said. The shooting set off a
huge police response and shut down the sprawling Army base, the same
facility where a deadly rampage by an officer resulted in 13 deaths in
2009.”

On 4/3/2014 8:46 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
...before everyone in Texas is shot dead?

“A soldier who was being evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder
opened fire at Fort Hood on Wednesday, killing three people and wounding
16 before killing himself, the authorities said. The shooting set off a
huge police response and shut down the sprawling Army base, the same
facility where a deadly rampage by an officer resulted in 13 deaths in
2009.”
Fascinating! tell us more.

On 4/3/2014 7:07 PM, BAR wrote:
In article , says...

...before everyone in Texas is shot dead?

?A soldier who was being evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder
opened fire at Fort Hood on Wednesday, killing three people and wounding
16 before killing himself, the authorities said. The shooting set off a
huge police response and shut down the sprawling Army base, the same
facility where a deadly rampage by an officer resulted in 13 deaths in
2009.?

Did you lose your right to keep and bear arms because of your mental
state or because of your prior PBJ?

PBJ?

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 19:33:39 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

PBJ

===

http://www.ccc-law.com/probation-bef...t-in-maryland/

On 4/3/14, 8:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:46:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...before everyone in Texas is shot dead?

“A soldier who was being evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder
opened fire at Fort Hood on Wednesday, killing three people and wounding
16 before killing himself, the authorities said. The shooting set off a
huge police response and shut down the sprawling Army base, the same
facility where a deadly rampage by an officer resulted in 13 deaths in
2009.�


If the psychiatrists are not doing the shooting they are missing the
signs that a guy might be a killer.
Maybe it is a problem with that profession.



There are a number of significant issues with the military system's
handling of these sorts of disorders and the willingness of personnel to
truly discuss their emotional problems.

The reports I read indicated the guy saw a military psychiatrist once
and was prescribed a medication known to cause hallucinations. Were
there followup visits to the psychiatrist? Did military protocol allow
the psychiatrist enough time to make an accurate evaluation? Apparently
something in the system was amiss, because, according to a report in the
Christian Science Monitor:

"In the days before going on a shooting rampage that would take the
lives of three people and leave more than a dozen others wounded
Specialist Ivan Lopez was “under diagnosis� for post-traumatic stress
disorder, “but he had not yet been diagnosed,� the senior officer at
Fort Hood, Texas, said Thursday.

"So how long does that take, exactly, to diagnose post-traumatic stress
disorder? And does the fact that he was undiagnosed – after what US
officials describe as a history of "psychiatric instability� – mean that
the military failed to heed the lessons of some of its most recent
tragedies?"

http://tinyurl.com/mu5hdv6

On 4/3/2014 8:24 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 4/3/14, 8:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:46:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...before everyone in Texas is shot dead?

“A soldier who was being evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder
opened fire at Fort Hood on Wednesday, killing three people and wounding
16 before killing himself, the authorities said. The shooting set off a
huge police response and shut down the sprawling Army base, the same
facility where a deadly rampage by an officer resulted in 13 deaths in
2009.�


If the psychiatrists are not doing the shooting they are missing the
signs that a guy might be a killer.
Maybe it is a problem with that profession.



There are a number of significant issues with the military system's
handling of these sorts of disorders and the willingness of personnel to
truly discuss their emotional problems.

The reports I read indicated the guy saw a military psychiatrist once
and was prescribed a medication known to cause hallucinations. Were
there followup visits to the psychiatrist? Did military protocol allow
the psychiatrist enough time to make an accurate evaluation? Apparently
something in the system was amiss, because, according to a report in the
Christian Science Monitor:

"In the days before going on a shooting rampage that would take the
lives of three people and leave more than a dozen others wounded
Specialist Ivan Lopez was “under diagnosis� for post-traumatic stress
disorder, “but he had not yet been diagnosed,� the senior officer at
Fort Hood, Texas, said Thursday.

"So how long does that take, exactly, to diagnose post-traumatic stress
disorder? And does the fact that he was undiagnosed – after what US
officials describe as a history of "psychiatric instability� – mean that
the military failed to heed the lessons of some of its most recent
tragedies?"

http://tinyurl.com/mu5hdv6

Blah Blah Blah That was NOT fascinating.

On 4/3/14, 8:49 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 20:24:29 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 4/3/14, 8:11 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 08:46:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...before everyone in Texas is shot dead?

“A soldier who was being evaluated for post-traumatic stress disorder
opened fire at Fort Hood on Wednesday, killing three people and wounding
16 before killing himself, the authorities said. The shooting set off a
huge police response and shut down the sprawling Army base, the same
facility where a deadly rampage by an officer resulted in 13 deaths in
2009.�


If the psychiatrists are not doing the shooting they are missing the
signs that a guy might be a killer.
Maybe it is a problem with that profession.



There are a number of significant issues with the military system's
handling of these sorts of disorders and the willingness of personnel to
truly discuss their emotional problems.

The reports I read indicated the guy saw a military psychiatrist once
and was prescribed a medication known to cause hallucinations. Were
there followup visits to the psychiatrist? Did military protocol allow
the psychiatrist enough time to make an accurate evaluation? Apparently
something in the system was amiss, because, according to a report in the
Christian Science Monitor:

"In the days before going on a shooting rampage that would take the
lives of three people and leave more than a dozen others wounded
Specialist Ivan Lopez was “under diagnosis� for post-traumatic stress
disorder, “but he had not yet been diagnosed,� the senior officer at
Fort Hood, Texas, said Thursday.

"So how long does that take, exactly, to diagnose post-traumatic stress
disorder? And does the fact that he was undiagnosed – after what US
officials describe as a history of "psychiatric instability� – mean that
the military failed to heed the lessons of some of its most recent
tragedies?"

http://tinyurl.com/mu5hdv6

I wouldn't jump on the old PTSD bandwagon until we find out what he
was fighting with the first victim about.



I'm not jumping on any bandwagon...just posting a news story that stated
the guy was "undiagnosed."

On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 20:49:44 -0400, wrote:

I wouldn't jump on the old PTSD bandwagon until we find out what he
was fighting with the first victim about.

===

Supposedly he was not even in combat, not that being ithe army isn't
stressful enough at times.

On 4/3/2014 9:22 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 20:49:44 -0400, wrote:

I wouldn't jump on the old PTSD bandwagon until we find out what he
was fighting with the first victim about.

===

Supposedly he was not even in combat, not that being ithe army isn't
stressful enough at times.


I think I heard the Commanding General of Ft. Hood say that the shooter
did one short tour in either Iraq or Afghanistan. That doesn't mean he
saw any combat though.

The world is full of people with psychological problems. Women drive
into lakes with their kids in the car, trying to kill them. Nut cases
shoot up kids in schools. Crimes of passion occur everyday. Shrinks
and therapists miss the warning signs all the time. The military is no
different.