I didn't see any congratulations (or name calling) from you to Krause, so I can only assume you
missed this post!

On Wed, 14 May 2014 18:36:29 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...my new Ruger, GP100 Model 1707 in .357 MAG/.38 Special. Hi-Viz front
sight, adjustable rear sight, ugly but comfy Hogue "Tamer" rubber grip.

Shoots sweet and straight. Obviously not for concealed carry.

http://tinyurl.com/lvoq6mx

On 5/20/14, 10:33 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
I didn't see any congratulations (or name calling) from you to Krause, so I can only assume you
missed this post!

On Wed, 14 May 2014 18:36:29 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...my new Ruger, GP100 Model 1707 in .357 MAG/.38 Special. Hi-Viz front
sight, adjustable rear sight, ugly but comfy Hogue "Tamer" rubber grip.

Shoots sweet and straight. Obviously not for concealed carry.

http://tinyurl.com/lvoq6mx


First-class zombie killer. And if you run out of ammo, grab it by the
barrel & bang 'em over the head.

Still looking for the *right* holster. Probably go for a crossdraw.

Bought a case of .357 MAG ammo, 12 boxes of 50 rounds each. Already had
a case of .38 Special ammo I had ordered previously. These calibers are
readily available via mail order, but in short or non-existent supply at
local hunting/fishing stores. Lots of .45ACP around locally, though.
Go figure.

On 5/20/14, 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 10:41:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

First-class zombie killer. And if you run out of ammo, grab it by the
barrel & bang 'em over the head.

Naah
For zombies, you need a 454 Casul



Too slow a cycle when you factor in muzzle flip and recoil. By the time
you take your second shot, you've been zombied...

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:52:24 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 10:41:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:



First-class zombie killer. And if you run out of ammo, grab it by the

barrel & bang 'em over the head.



Naah

For zombies, you need a 454 Casul

That's a man's firearm. Definitely not for limp-wristed, panty-waisted liberal writer types. :-)

On 5/20/14, 1:58 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 12:02:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/20/14, 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 10:41:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

First-class zombie killer. And if you run out of ammo, grab it by the
barrel & bang 'em over the head.

Naah
For zombies, you need a 454 Casul



Too slow a cycle when you factor in muzzle flip and recoil. By the time
you take your second shot, you've been zombied...

Practice my man, practice.

You seem very hung up on this muzzle flip thing.
Once you build your muscle memory, you are back down on the target in
fractions of a second. That is the big difference between guys who
like slow fire at 25-50 yards and guys who do rapid fire strings at 7
or less.
Lately the only thing I have been doing is "extend and fire" a double
tap from the retention position with the gun starting in D/A.
That gets me used to both trigger pulls and creates the muscle memory
for an instinctive shot in bad light. It also reinforces taking your
finger from "safe" (along the slide) to being on the trigger ... and
back.
Most target shooters I see pick up the gun with their finger in the
guard! I assume they do the same thing when they hear a bump in the
night.
I have to admit, I did it too before guys like Ayoob started teaching
the finger along the frame thing.

Now it is the standard practice.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/elian-gonzalez.jpg

The only thing that is not scary in this picture


I was taught finger along the frame by the CCW instructor over in
Virgina. Never developed the habit of keeping a finger in the guard. Too
dangerous, especially with the CZ competition pistol I had.

I have a friend with a .454 casul and a short barrel. Muzzle flip and
slow cycling are issues. He says decent ammo for it is about a buck and
a half to two bucks a round. No thanks.

On 5/20/14, 4:06 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 14:06:05 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/20/14, 1:58 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 12:02:11 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/20/14, 11:52 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 10:41:13 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

First-class zombie killer. And if you run out of ammo, grab it by the
barrel & bang 'em over the head.

Naah
For zombies, you need a 454 Casul



Too slow a cycle when you factor in muzzle flip and recoil. By the time
you take your second shot, you've been zombied...

Practice my man, practice.

You seem very hung up on this muzzle flip thing.
Once you build your muscle memory, you are back down on the target in
fractions of a second. That is the big difference between guys who
like slow fire at 25-50 yards and guys who do rapid fire strings at 7
or less.
Lately the only thing I have been doing is "extend and fire" a double
tap from the retention position with the gun starting in D/A.
That gets me used to both trigger pulls and creates the muscle memory
for an instinctive shot in bad light. It also reinforces taking your
finger from "safe" (along the slide) to being on the trigger ... and
back.
Most target shooters I see pick up the gun with their finger in the
guard! I assume they do the same thing when they hear a bump in the
night.
I have to admit, I did it too before guys like Ayoob started teaching
the finger along the frame thing.

Now it is the standard practice.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/elian-gonzalez.jpg

The only thing that is not scary in this picture


I was taught finger along the frame by the CCW instructor over in
Virgina. Never developed the habit of keeping a finger in the guard. Too
dangerous, especially with the CZ competition pistol I had.

I have a friend with a .454 casul and a short barrel. Muzzle flip and
slow cycling are issues. He says decent ammo for it is about a buck and
a half to two bucks a round. No thanks.


You really need to reload if you are shooting something like that.
I never really had an interest in one but I have shot them.
The one I shot had a fairly long barrel in a heavy hunting handgun,
scoped so the recoil wasn't as bad as a saturday night special Charter
.44 mag.
I bet that gun was 50 oz or more. It was a big chunk of metal to hold,
offhand. The guy who owned it said you really want a rest when you are
shooting it. At that point it is basically a carbine. A shoulder stock
might be the way to go.





I've read a few articles and watched a couple of videos on reloading. It
looks too tedious to interest me and several reloaders I know up here
have told me that the supplies sometimes cannot be easily found, even
via mail order.

I am saving my brass, though. More than one local reloader has expressed
interest in swapping brass for reloads on some yet to be determined
basis, although that makes me nervous because of the varying skills of
these guys.

I've tried three brands of speed loaders...HKS, Safariland, and Five
Star. I like the Safariland and Five Star...the HKS not so much.

On 5/20/14, 7:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 16:35:46 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


I've read a few articles and watched a couple of videos on reloading. It
looks too tedious to interest me and several reloaders I know up here
have told me that the supplies sometimes cannot be easily found, even
via mail order.


Reloading is really for people who want a money saving hobby. If you
get a progressive multistation reloader with the foot pedal actuator,
it really goes pretty fast. I just used a single station RCBS loader.
It was still about a quarter, every time I loaded a round so it was
rewarding for a guy who didn't have a lot of money.
I also enjoyed working up rounds after I got my chronograph and a
range in the basement.


I am saving my brass, though. More than one local reloader has expressed
interest in swapping brass for reloads on some yet to be determined
basis, although that makes me nervous because of the varying skills of
these guys.


I tend to agree. As long as you are shooting light target loads, a
little fluctuation in the powder charge is not a huge deal but when
you are loading up around the max, I really want to do it myself

I've tried three brands of speed loaders...HKS, Safariland, and Five
Star. I like the Safariland and Five Star...the HKS not so much.

I have a couple of speed loaders for my OM but I am not sure I ever
used them. If you think you will be in that kind of situation, take a
semi auto.


I paid about .40+ cents a round for the case of .357s I bought, and the
..38 Specials are about a dime less. If you are saying reloading is about
..25 cents a round, and I shot a real ton of ammo, in the long run, it
might be worth doing. If the supplies were readily available, but that's
not my understanding.

I just have the speedloaders for play and to show off my clumsiness as I
empty the brass into a tupperware box and try to get the speedloaders to
load the cylinder, all within a short period of time. This new revolver
is much too big to be a "carry" sidearm.

Poquito Loco wrote:
I didn't see any congratulations (or name calling) from you to Krause, so I can only assume you
missed this post!

On Wed, 14 May 2014 18:36:29 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

...my new Ruger, GP100 Model 1707 in .357 MAG/.38 Special. Hi-Viz front
sight, adjustable rear sight, ugly but comfy Hogue "Tamer" rubber grip.

Shoots sweet and straight. Obviously not for concealed carry.

http://tinyurl.com/lvoq6mx

Stainless is a good choice!

On 5/20/14, 9:14 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 19:45:35 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 5/20/14, 7:36 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 16:35:46 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:


I've read a few articles and watched a couple of videos on reloading. It
looks too tedious to interest me and several reloaders I know up here
have told me that the supplies sometimes cannot be easily found, even
via mail order.


Reloading is really for people who want a money saving hobby. If you
get a progressive multistation reloader with the foot pedal actuator,
it really goes pretty fast. I just used a single station RCBS loader.
It was still about a quarter, every time I loaded a round so it was
rewarding for a guy who didn't have a lot of money.
I also enjoyed working up rounds after I got my chronograph and a
range in the basement.


I am saving my brass, though. More than one local reloader has expressed
interest in swapping brass for reloads on some yet to be determined
basis, although that makes me nervous because of the varying skills of
these guys.


I tend to agree. As long as you are shooting light target loads, a
little fluctuation in the powder charge is not a huge deal but when
you are loading up around the max, I really want to do it myself

I've tried three brands of speed loaders...HKS, Safariland, and Five
Star. I like the Safariland and Five Star...the HKS not so much.

I have a couple of speed loaders for my OM but I am not sure I ever
used them. If you think you will be in that kind of situation, take a
semi auto.


I paid about .40+ cents a round for the case of .357s I bought, and the
.38 Specials are about a dime less. If you are saying reloading is about
.25 cents a round, and I shot a real ton of ammo, in the long run, it
might be worth doing. If the supplies were readily available, but that's
not my understanding.

The difference is when you get to performance ammo that can be closer
to a buck a round.

I just shoot ordinary FMJs or JHPs. I'm not interested in deer, hog, or
bear hunting.




I just have the speedloaders for play and to show off my clumsiness as I
empty the brass into a tupperware box and try to get the speedloaders to
load the cylinder, all within a short period of time. This new revolver
is much too big to be a "carry" sidearm.

It takes longer to load a speed loader than it takes to load the gun.
If there is nobody shooting at you, why bother?


I told you...for "play."

On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:18:33 PM UTC-4, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/20/14, 9:14 PM, wrote:

It takes longer to load a speed loader than it takes to load the gun.
If there is nobody shooting at you, why bother?

I told you...for "play."

You shouldn't play with guns, or their accoutrements.

You don't like SA's because they are too fiddly, but you "play" (fiddle) around with speed loaders?

Strange.