On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:44:35 -0400, Harrold wrote:

Alarms, booby traps, security lighting, security cameras, guns behind
the double deadbolted steel doors. Nah, he's not paranoid. All that's
missing is a moat and a gun turret on the roof. What is Krausie so
afraid of?

Apparently me


I do indeed keep a weather eye out for you, little ****. You're an
ill-tempered failure with nothing to lose, and you threaten violence.
You've made threats against several posters here over the years.

Can't you tell the difference between idle threats and the real deal?

===

The real deal is what he's really worried about. It's out there.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:46:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 5:34 PM, amdx wrote:
On 10/28/2014 7:06 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/28/14 7:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right?



Not at all. The conclusion is that you are an ill-informed, ignorant
racist.


I'm curious, is he racist because of something he said in this post,
or are you are you just calling people racist again.

Mikek





Some years before your arrival here, Herring worked as a substitute
babysitter teacher frequently made racist comments about his minority
students and their families, he's made anti-ethnic remarks about
Latinos, and over the years, he's made all manner of racist remarks
about blacks. I call him a racist because he is one.

Curiosity satisfied?

===

What if the remarks he made about his students were true? Would he
still be a racist? Under the law you can not libel someone with a
true statement.

On 10/29/14 6:16 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:57:28 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 5:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:21:29 -0400, Harrold wrote:

Alarms, booby traps, security lighting, security cameras, guns behind
the double deadbolted steel doors. Nah, he's not paranoid. All that's
missing is a moat and a gun turret on the roof. What is Krausie so
afraid of?

===

That's easy, he's afraid of the past. Did you ever see the episode of
the Sopranos where Tony is in a small town in Maine and runs into a
mob informer who is now in the witness protection program? It's not
pretty. I don't think Harry is in the WPP but there are still things
that can go bump in the night, even if you've lived an otherwise
exemplary life like he has.



Still got that alarm system on your dock, W'hine? How about the one on
your house for when you are out of town?

===

Maybe you should watch that episode of the Sopranos if you missed it.
It might make you a little "tight" under the collar.


Oh, I've known a few of the "real deal" guys over the years.

Nice fellows, and far less crooked than your banksters. I knew Jimmy
Hoffa -distantly- in Detroit when the Teamsters were aligned with my UAW
client, I knew Roy Williams pretty well from my reporter days and his
union days in Kansas City, and I did some work for the Teamsters when
Jackie Presser ran the show. Jackie had a habit of calling me early
Sunday mornings...it was a bit of a startle the first few times.

So, you still have that alarm system on your dock, W'hine?




--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

On 10/29/14 6:18 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 07:44:35 -0400, Harrold wrote:

Alarms, booby traps, security lighting, security cameras, guns behind
the double deadbolted steel doors. Nah, he's not paranoid. All that's
missing is a moat and a gun turret on the roof. What is Krausie so
afraid of?

Apparently me


I do indeed keep a weather eye out for you, little ****. You're an
ill-tempered failure with nothing to lose, and you threaten violence.
You've made threats against several posters here over the years.

Can't you tell the difference between idle threats and the real deal?

===

The real deal is what he's really worried about. It's out there.


You planning to come up here and rake my leaves?

--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

On 10/29/14 6:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:46:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 5:34 PM, amdx wrote:
On 10/28/2014 7:06 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/28/14 7:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right?



Not at all. The conclusion is that you are an ill-informed, ignorant
racist.


I'm curious, is he racist because of something he said in this post,
or are you are you just calling people racist again.

Mikek





Some years before your arrival here, Herring worked as a substitute
babysitter teacher frequently made racist comments about his minority
students and their families, he's made anti-ethnic remarks about
Latinos, and over the years, he's made all manner of racist remarks
about blacks. I call him a racist because he is one.

Curiosity satisfied?

===

What if the remarks he made about his students were true? Would he
still be a racist? Under the law you can not libel someone with a
true statement.


Herring is a racist. But if you want to dance on the head of a pin about
it, you go right ahead. Makes no difference to me.


--
“There’s more idleness and abuse of government favors among the
economically privileged than among the ranks of the disadvantaged.” -
Norman Mailer

On 10/29/2014 6:21 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:46:21 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 5:34 PM, amdx wrote:
On 10/28/2014 7:06 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/28/14 7:58 AM, Poco Loco wrote:


It would be absurd to draw any conclusions from this data - right?



Not at all. The conclusion is that you are an ill-informed, ignorant
racist.


I'm curious, is he racist because of something he said in this post,
or are you are you just calling people racist again.

Mikek





Some years before your arrival here, Herring worked as a substitute
babysitter teacher frequently made racist comments about his minority
students and their families, he's made anti-ethnic remarks about
Latinos, and over the years, he's made all manner of racist remarks
about blacks.

No he didn't, but you have been a consistent liar here for over a
decade... Fact is, he never made any such remarks, you are just a piece
of ****..

I call him a racist because he is one.

Curiosity satisfied?

===

What if the remarks he made about his students were true? Would he
still be a racist? Under the law you can not libel someone with a
true statement.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 10/29/14 4:54 PM, KC wrote:
On 10/29/2014 2:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:36:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:28:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:35:39 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:36:30 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/28/14 11:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:42:34 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

On 10/28/14 5:52 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:08:54 -0400, F*O*A*D
wrote:

You send your kids out to collect plastic bottles by the
roadside to
turn in for deposit? I suppose that is easier on you than
finding and
keeping a decent job.

I think he is referring to your "hobby" of killing water
bottles and
performing mundane tasks on firearms, routinely performed by
third
world children.


Ahh, yes, I do enjoy shooting one and two liter sodapop
bottles, and I'm
going to start putting Mentos in some of them. Ginger ale,
I've found,
produces the biggest "explosions."

I doubt "third world children" are working on new in the box
Colt AR15s.

They might have some well-used ones that Dick Cheney's
corporation left
behind somewhere, though. I wonder if those kids have "Go"
and "No Go"
tools in their little kits when they need to replace the
barrels in
those Cheney Saturday Night Specials.

And since you are interested, I might upgrade the trigger in
my AR15.
It's a "milspec" trigger with a "milspec" 6-1/2 pound pull,
and is ok
but not great. I'd like a smoother trigger with maybe half
that amount
of pull.

For a moment there, I thought the Ingerfool family found a
good job
right out of the Grapes of Wrath.

It takes a lot more skill to keep those old M16s (and AKs)
running
than a new in the box AR.
The fact that you have access to lots of off the shelf parts
does not
enhance your argument.




I have no use or need for a select fire M16, though I don't see
where
regular maintenance on it would be any more difficult or even
significantly different than on my AR15. There's very little
difference
in stripping them down and keeping them running. Most of the
parts are
identical. The key is keeping the rifle clean and lubed.

I don't know anything about the care and maintenance of the AK
rifles.
They don't interest me.

Non responsive answer ... again.


Your posit was that it took more skill to keep an old M16
running. What
skills would it take beyond my ability to produce a working AR15
from a
stripped lower and upper? I have the skills I need to build and
maintain
my AR rifles. I know where all the pieces and parts go, including
the
various springs and detents. I have no desire or need to
manufacture a
billet lower or hammer a barrel.

As I stated, I don't know anything about AKs.

A 3d world child is keeping an old M16 running with limited access to
parts if any and it is usually a worn out Vietnam era M16A1 that we
gave away during one of our "save the world from communism"
misadventures.
That is far more difficult than simply dropping new parts in a new
lower. and acting like you are a master gunsmith.



Really. What parts are these Third World kids machining? Springs?
Detents? Levers? Are they carving parts out of hickory logs? Or are
they
simply scavenging parts out of one old rifle and tossing them into
another old rifle.

Exactly.

I made no claim of being a master gunsmith. I'm no more of a master
gunsmith than you are a master auto mechanic, public health expert, or
environmental engineer, or an expert in any of the other 100 areas in
which you've claimed mastery.

You only seem to hang your hat on that one skill, assembling erector
set guns..



I don't see rec.boats as a place where I would want to discuss or show
my expertise with Trompe-l'Å“il oil painting.


Oh brother.... learned a new word on the internets I see... lol.


No, you ignorant ass. Took art history classes (two) in college.



Or a drafting class.

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/29/2014 2:21 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:44:21 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/28/2014 5:57 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:37:09 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/28/2014 2:48 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:23:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

$35 every three years doesn't sound onerous to me. We pay $100 for six
years up here. Free if 70 or over.


Per gun? Eeek!

You will love Florida



LOL ... no

The $100 is for the license or renewal every 6 years.
You can own as many guns as you want. The registration process allows
the state to monitor how many you buy and sell though and they might
investigate if they suspect you are an unlicensed dealer.

I didn't take John's $35 (for three years) as being a fee per gun.
It's just for the fingerprinting.


As I said, you missed the fee per gun part.



What was it, $13 bucks or something? I don't have a problem with that.

I expect not. You wouldn't have a problem with $1300/gun, but it would
sure be an infringement on the right of many, including me, to own a
firearm, wouldn't it? Would it require a change in the Constitution to
pass such a law in a city, county, or state?



Who said I wouldn't have a problem at $1,300 per gun? You did. Not me.

$13 bucks every three years to cover the cost of having reasonable gun
registration and controls doesn't seem crazy to me. $1,300 does.

We pay $50 (per vehicle) every two years to keep car registrations current.

We pay $100 every six years to keep our gun permits current and valid.

All we are talking about are *reasonable* controls to address gun safety
and ownership concerns in the 21st Century. Citing the 2nd Amendment and
refusing to consider any laws or rules that make the rest of the
population feel more comfortable doesn't make sense.

What's the going rate for 18 holes of golf? $25-$30 bucks? What's the
going rate for a full hookup at a campsite?

Seems you are willing to pay for what you enjoy.

Cars are not a constitutionally protected item. $$ every couple years to
keep your guns? More like a poll tax to vote.

wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:36:25 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 1:01 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 12:28:50 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 12:17 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:35:39 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/29/14 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 06:36:30 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/28/14 11:02 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:42:34 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 10/28/14 5:52 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:08:54 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

You send your kids out to collect plastic bottles by the roadside to
turn in for deposit? I suppose that is easier on you than finding and
keeping a decent job.

I think he is referring to your "hobby" of killing water bottles and
performing mundane tasks on firearms, routinely performed by third
world children.


Ahh, yes, I do enjoy shooting one and two liter sodapop bottles, and I'm
going to start putting Mentos in some of them. Ginger ale, I've found,
produces the biggest "explosions."

I doubt "third world children" are working on new in the box Colt AR15s.

They might have some well-used ones that Dick Cheney's corporation left
behind somewhere, though. I wonder if those kids have "Go" and "No Go"
tools in their little kits when they need to replace the barrels in
those Cheney Saturday Night Specials.

And since you are interested, I might upgrade the trigger in my AR15.
It's a "milspec" trigger with a "milspec" 6-1/2 pound pull, and is ok
but not great. I'd like a smoother trigger with maybe half that amount
of pull.

For a moment there, I thought the Ingerfool family found a good job
right out of the Grapes of Wrath.

It takes a lot more skill to keep those old M16s (and AKs) running
than a new in the box AR.
The fact that you have access to lots of off the shelf parts does not
enhance your argument.




I have no use or need for a select fire M16, though I don't see where
regular maintenance on it would be any more difficult or even
significantly different than on my AR15. There's very little difference
in stripping them down and keeping them running. Most of the parts are
identical. The key is keeping the rifle clean and lubed.

I don't know anything about the care and maintenance of the AK rifles.
They don't interest me.

Non responsive answer ... again.


Your posit was that it took more skill to keep an old M16 running. What
skills would it take beyond my ability to produce a working AR15 from a
stripped lower and upper? I have the skills I need to build and maintain
my AR rifles. I know where all the pieces and parts go, including the
various springs and detents. I have no desire or need to manufacture a
billet lower or hammer a barrel.

As I stated, I don't know anything about AKs.

A 3d world child is keeping an old M16 running with limited access to
parts if any and it is usually a worn out Vietnam era M16A1 that we
gave away during one of our "save the world from communism"
misadventures.
That is far more difficult than simply dropping new parts in a new
lower. and acting like you are a master gunsmith.



Really. What parts are these Third World kids machining? Springs?
Detents? Levers? Are they carving parts out of hickory logs? Or are they
simply scavenging parts out of one old rifle and tossing them into
another old rifle.

Exactly.

I made no claim of being a master gunsmith. I'm no more of a master
gunsmith than you are a master auto mechanic, public health expert, or
environmental engineer, or an expert in any of the other 100 areas in
which you've claimed mastery.

You only seem to hang your hat on that one skill, assembling erector
set guns..



I don't see rec.boats as a place where I would want to discuss or show
my expertise with Trompe-l'Å“il oil painting.

Paint by number?

He can not. Math challenged. Basic math.

On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:25:44 -0400, F*O*A*D wrote:

I knew Jimmy
Hoffa -distantly- in Detroit when the Teamsters were aligned with my UAW
client, I knew Roy Williams pretty well from my reporter days and his
union days in Kansas City, and I did some work for the Teamsters when
Jackie Presser ran the show. Jackie had a habit of calling me early
Sunday mornings...it was a bit of a startle the first few times.

===

With friends like that you really don't need any enemies.

I had a neighbor at one time who was a self proclaimed union hotshot
with "connections". He disappeared one day - couldn't have happened
to a nicer guy.