On 12/4/14 9:10 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:31:37 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"


No. Luckily, racism was never an 'ingrained' behavior. It was simply a
false accusation.

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Your years of racist posts here indicate you are a racist.

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I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

On 12/4/2014 10:03 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Your years of racist posts here indicate you are a racist.

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I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

What racist posts?

On 12/4/2014 10:26 PM, Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/4/2014 10:03 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
Your years of racist posts here indicate you are a racist.

--
I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers.
After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer.

What racist posts?

They got caught today being overtly racist when talking about a fake
news story... now they are attacking.

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 22:48:31 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:19:22 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 11:46:51 -0500, wrote:

Why would density make any difference? Are you saying the people are
so close together that you can't swing a knife without killing
someone?

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I believe that if you do a detailed analysis you will find that
density does make a difference. I leave it to the sociologists to
explain that phenomenon but certainly ghetto culture requires a
critical mass of sorts.

I bet the demographic differences be more significant than population
density.
Maybe you could compare Staten Island with Queens.
(and I have no idea what the answer would be, just guessing)

Americans are 10 times more violent than Canadians and black Americans
are 4 times more violent than white Americans.

That is not opinion or racism, it is what you see when you read the
UCR. (just murders)

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Why go where brave men fear to tread. A lot of it is drug related.

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 22:41:35 -0500, wrote:

When Paladin shot someone, they just
fell down.

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If anything that was even more desensitizing than the really gory
stuff.

On 12/4/2014 11:14 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 20:23:52 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/4/2014 8:10 PM, Roger wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 10:18:22 -0500, KC wrote:

On 12/4/2014 10:08 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 09:11:46 -0500, Let it snowe
wrote:

On 12/4/2014 8:20 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
Since a city is being compared to a country, the population
density is
immaterial.
If that is so try comparing Detroit or Chicago or Washington DC or
LA to
all of the Us.
Then Luddite and Toad would call me an ingrained racist. I'd bet that
if you took the homicides in our 8-10 largest cities there would be
more than in the entire rest of the US (and Canada combined).
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

...Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

I heard a stat. We are fourth in the world for murder unless you take
out the four top I think NYC, Detroit, Miami and LA.. we drop to nearly
number 100 in the world for murders...
Actually NYC is not murder city anymore. They are way down the list at
about 5 per 100,000, Detroit and New Orleans are 10 times that.
Miami has slid down in the ratings too since the cocaine wars ended.

They go

Detroit (54.6)
New Orleans
big gap
Baltimore (35.5)
Newark
Oakland
Stockton
Kansas City
Philadelphia
Cleveland
Memphis
Atlanta
Chicago
Buffalo
Miami (16.7)

Per the FBI UCR 2012

It is interesting that 8 out of the 14 listed have very strict gun
control.


I wouldn't expect to see Buffalo on a list like this. Evidently they
are littered with losers, too.


Check out a list of which are run by dems, and which by repubs....

I doubt any of those cities are run by Republicans.
Maybe Buffalo?

The big major city run by a republican mayor for the last 20 years?.
New York City and they went from being murder city to one of the
safest in the country ... with the highest population density.
Every burroughs and CDP out strips any other city in the US for
population density, diversity or just about any other metric you want
to use.
Their secret? They enforced the laws, all of them. Cracking down on
little crimes eliminated big crimes.


And stop and frisk.. but the dems can't hold blacks down without the
crime and violence so with the new dem in power they are stopping as
many of the effective policies as they can..

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 12/4/14 9:10 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:31:37 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"


No. Luckily, racism was never an 'ingrained' behavior. It was simply a
false accusation.

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Your years of racist posts here indicate you are a racist.


Your years of citing race prove your racism.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 12/4/14 2:02 PM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 12/4/14 11:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/4/2014 11:42 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:12:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/4/2014 12:02 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:15:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:



Less availability of guns in modern western societies seems to
result in
a less violent society, eh?

They are simply less violent. There were more stabbing murders in LA
last year than the total number of murders in Canada all causes.
Maybe it does have to do with our ethnic make up ... but we can't say
that.


Statistics can be very misleading unless you take all factors into
account.

You have to come away with the fact that Americans are more violent,
across the board. When you look at Australia where they did do a
massive gun roundup, the people who wanted to kill their fellow man,
simply moved to other weapons. The overall slope of murder rates
didn't really change.



John won't like this but guns, wars and violence are "ingrained" in our
culture. :-)




Every country is unique, but Australia is more similar to the US than is,
say, Japan or England. We have a frontier history and a strong gun
culture. Each state and territory has its own gun laws, and in 1996 these
varied widely between the jurisdictions. At that time Australia's firearm
mortality rate per population was 2.6/100,000 – about one-quarter the US
rate, according to data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics and the
US Center for Disease Control. Today the rate is under 1/100,000 – less
than one-tenth the US rate. Those figures refer to all gun deaths –
homicide, suicide and unintentional. If we focus on gun homicide rates,
the US outstrips Australia 30-fold.

The 1996 reforms made gun laws stronger and uniform across Australia.
Semi-automatic rifles were prohibited (with narrow exceptions), and the
world's biggest buyback saw nearly 700,000 guns removed from circulation
and destroyed. The licensing and registration systems of all states and
territories were harmonised and linked, so that a person barred from
owning guns in one state can no longer acquire them in another. All gun
sales are subject to screening (universal background checks), which means
you cannot buy a gun over the internet or at a garage sale.

Gun ownership requires a license, and every sale is subject to a 28-day
waiting period. The licensing process considers not only the applicant's
age and criminal convictions, but also a range of other factors relevant
to possession of a product that is (a) designed for killing and (b)
highly coveted by people who should not have it. Relevant factors include
the applicant's living circumstances, mental and physical health,
restraining orders or other encounters with the law, type of gun desired
and for what purpose, safety training, storage arrangements, and the public interest.

http://tinyurl.com/lh4gzcs



Gun death rate changed with the gun confiscations. Death rates did not
really change.


Oh, you fellas are citing the pro-gun sites, the ones that play fun and
games with statistics. Good show.


You give a cite then!

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 22:38:00 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:09:51 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:

On 12/4/14 11:44 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/4/2014 11:42 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 05:12:18 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/4/2014 12:02 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 13:15:52 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:



Less availability of guns in modern western societies seems to
result in
a less violent society, eh?

They are simply less violent. There were more stabbing murders in LA
last year than the total number of murders in Canada all causes.
Maybe it does have to do with our ethnic make up ... but we can't say
that.


Statistics can be very misleading unless you take all factors into
account.

You have to come away with the fact that Americans are more violent,
across the board. When you look at Australia where they did do a
massive gun roundup, the people who wanted to kill their fellow man,
simply moved to other weapons. The overall slope of murder rates
didn't really change.



John won't like this but guns, wars and violence are "ingrained" in our
culture. :-)




Every country is unique, but Australia is more similar to the US than
is, say, Japan or England. We have a frontier history and a strong gun
culture. Each state and territory has its own gun laws, and in 1996
these varied widely between the jurisdictions. At that time Australia's
firearm mortality rate per population was 2.6/100,000 – about
one-quarter the US rate, according to data from the Australian Bureau of
Statistics and the US Center for Disease Control. Today the rate is
under 1/100,000 – less than one-tenth the US rate. Those figures refer
to all gun deaths – homicide, suicide and unintentional. If we focus on
gun homicide rates, the US outstrips Australia 30-fold.

The 1996 reforms made gun laws stronger and uniform across Australia.
Semi-automatic rifles were prohibited (with narrow exceptions), and the
world's biggest buyback saw nearly 700,000 guns removed from circulation
and destroyed. The licensing and registration systems of all states and
territories were harmonised and linked, so that a person barred from
owning guns in one state can no longer acquire them in another. All gun
sales are subject to screening (universal background checks), which
means you cannot buy a gun over the internet or at a garage sale.

Gun ownership requires a license, and every sale is subject to a 28-day
waiting period. The licensing process considers not only the applicant's
age and criminal convictions, but also a range of other factors relevant
to possession of a product that is (a) designed for killing and (b)
highly coveted by people who should not have it. Relevant factors
include the applicant's living circumstances, mental and physical
health, restraining orders or other encounters with the law, type of gun
desired and for what purpose, safety training, storage arrangements, and
the public interest.

http://tinyurl.com/lh4gzcs

I suppose I could dig up the article I posted here before that had the
graph of the Australian murder rate and getting rid of those guns did
not make any significant blip in the slope. Just like us, their murder
rate was dropping and the gun confiscation really had little effect.
It continued to drop at about the same rate. People just found another
way to off their mother in law and criminals were not really affected
at all.

Remember, facts are irrelevant.
--

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who's winning an argument
with a liberal."

....Peter Brimelow (Author)
(Thanks, Luddite!)

On 12/5/2014 12:24 AM, Califbill wrote:
F*O*A*D wrote:
On 12/4/14 9:10 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:31:37 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"


No. Luckily, racism was never an 'ingrained' behavior. It was simply a
false accusation.

--


Your years of racist posts here indicate you are a racist.


Your years of citing race prove your racism.

He doesn't cite much but he sure does accuse folks of being racist, A
LOT. What's up with that?