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A bit of satire...
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 07:27:41 -0500, Let it snowe
wrote: On 12/6/2014 11:22 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/6/2014 11:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 12:37:05 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 12/6/14 10:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 07:42:55 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: I'm not "conflicted" at all. I don't suffer from right-wing rigid personality, and I don't expect the world to be *my way* or no way. I'm glad cops accused of crimes have access to decent counsel at little or no cost beyond their union dues. My personal feelings about these cops who have been in the news lately does not lead me to a right-wing lynch mob mentality. No, it is a left wing lynch mob. You refuse to accept the actions of the justice system. This is yet another in your famous string of attempts to argue your point well beyond the onset of absurdity. You would have been a hoot in college formal debate because you would have been disqualified or booed off the podium. I don't like the actions of grand juries that give cops a free ride when they commit ultraviolence against unarmed civilians, but that doesn't make me or others who feel as I do part of a lynch mob. I didn't like the actions of the O.J. murder jury back in 1995, but I wasn't ready to lynch anyone. I figured O.J. would get what was coming to him, sooner or later, and I think the Missouri cop will, too, and so will your hero, George Zimmerman. You are like the mobs in the street who will accept nothing but an immediate conviction and reject the verdict of a jury in the case of Zimmerman and reject the grand jury in the cases of Wilson and Pantaleo. You had made up your mind before there were any facts established, simply based on media reports that are inaccurate. As I have said many times, there are far better examples but they go off on the wrong ones. Why not protest the cop who shot the 12 year old with the air soft gun or the cop who shot a guy for a seat belt violation. You people always find a criminal or a thug to defend, then you want to lynch the guy who shot them in self defense. In the case of Eric Garner, there were at least 10 people who were collectively responsible for his death (including Garner himself) and only one was targeted, simply because he was the most visible. If I was going to charge someone, it would be the EMTs. Garner was alive when they got there and they did absolutely nothing to keep him alive. When exactly did Garner die? When his heart stopped beating. ....which was while he was in a chokehold and after which he said, "I can't breathe" about half a dozen times? -- "When your argument has backed a liberal into a corner, expect to be called a racist." |
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#163
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A bit of satire...
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 07:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 12/6/14 11:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 12:37:05 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 12/6/14 10:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 07:42:55 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: I'm not "conflicted" at all. I don't suffer from right-wing rigid personality, and I don't expect the world to be *my way* or no way. I'm glad cops accused of crimes have access to decent counsel at little or no cost beyond their union dues. My personal feelings about these cops who have been in the news lately does not lead me to a right-wing lynch mob mentality. No, it is a left wing lynch mob. You refuse to accept the actions of the justice system. This is yet another in your famous string of attempts to argue your point well beyond the onset of absurdity. You would have been a hoot in college formal debate because you would have been disqualified or booed off the podium. I don't like the actions of grand juries that give cops a free ride when they commit ultraviolence against unarmed civilians, but that doesn't make me or others who feel as I do part of a lynch mob. I didn't like the actions of the O.J. murder jury back in 1995, but I wasn't ready to lynch anyone. I figured O.J. would get what was coming to him, sooner or later, and I think the Missouri cop will, too, and so will your hero, George Zimmerman. You are like the mobs in the street who will accept nothing but an immediate conviction and reject the verdict of a jury in the case of Zimmerman and reject the grand jury in the cases of Wilson and Pantaleo. You had made up your mind before there were any facts established, simply based on media reports that are inaccurate. There you go again, into hyperbole-ville, attempting to argue your points beyond the onset of absurdity. Instead of criticizing the author, show where he's wrong. You, and a couple others, immediately jumped on the 'hang him' bandwagon, just like you did in the Ferguson case. -- "When your argument has backed a liberal into a corner, expect to be called a racist." |
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#164
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A bit of satire...
On 12/7/14 8:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 07:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 12/6/14 11:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 12:37:05 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 12/6/14 10:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 07:42:55 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: I'm not "conflicted" at all. I don't suffer from right-wing rigid personality, and I don't expect the world to be *my way* or no way. I'm glad cops accused of crimes have access to decent counsel at little or no cost beyond their union dues. My personal feelings about these cops who have been in the news lately does not lead me to a right-wing lynch mob mentality. No, it is a left wing lynch mob. You refuse to accept the actions of the justice system. This is yet another in your famous string of attempts to argue your point well beyond the onset of absurdity. You would have been a hoot in college formal debate because you would have been disqualified or booed off the podium. I don't like the actions of grand juries that give cops a free ride when they commit ultraviolence against unarmed civilians, but that doesn't make me or others who feel as I do part of a lynch mob. I didn't like the actions of the O.J. murder jury back in 1995, but I wasn't ready to lynch anyone. I figured O.J. would get what was coming to him, sooner or later, and I think the Missouri cop will, too, and so will your hero, George Zimmerman. You are like the mobs in the street who will accept nothing but an immediate conviction and reject the verdict of a jury in the case of Zimmerman and reject the grand jury in the cases of Wilson and Pantaleo. You had made up your mind before there were any facts established, simply based on media reports that are inaccurate. There you go again, into hyperbole-ville, attempting to argue your points beyond the onset of absurdity. Instead of criticizing the author, show where he's wrong. You, and a couple others, immediately jumped on the 'hang him' bandwagon, just like you did in the Ferguson case. No, dummy, I didn't. In fact, in the Missouri case, I said the cop should have been indicted and then tried in an open trial, and if he were found not guilty, the verdict would help quell any violent demonstrations. So, once again, you are misrepresenting what someone else posted here. That's what you righties seem to do best, eh? As for Greg, I see no reason to respond to his off the charts hyperbole. I don't have to like a verdict, and I am free to say so. That doesn't make those of us who disgree with these verdicts "mobs" in the street. I didn't like the OJ verdict in his murder trial. Did you? -- I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers. After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer. |
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#165
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A bit of satire...
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 08:54:27 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 12/7/14 8:30 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 07:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 12/6/14 11:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 12:37:05 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 12/6/14 10:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 07:42:55 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: I'm not "conflicted" at all. I don't suffer from right-wing rigid personality, and I don't expect the world to be *my way* or no way. I'm glad cops accused of crimes have access to decent counsel at little or no cost beyond their union dues. My personal feelings about these cops who have been in the news lately does not lead me to a right-wing lynch mob mentality. No, it is a left wing lynch mob. You refuse to accept the actions of the justice system. This is yet another in your famous string of attempts to argue your point well beyond the onset of absurdity. You would have been a hoot in college formal debate because you would have been disqualified or booed off the podium. I don't like the actions of grand juries that give cops a free ride when they commit ultraviolence against unarmed civilians, but that doesn't make me or others who feel as I do part of a lynch mob. I didn't like the actions of the O.J. murder jury back in 1995, but I wasn't ready to lynch anyone. I figured O.J. would get what was coming to him, sooner or later, and I think the Missouri cop will, too, and so will your hero, George Zimmerman. You are like the mobs in the street who will accept nothing but an immediate conviction and reject the verdict of a jury in the case of Zimmerman and reject the grand jury in the cases of Wilson and Pantaleo. You had made up your mind before there were any facts established, simply based on media reports that are inaccurate. There you go again, into hyperbole-ville, attempting to argue your points beyond the onset of absurdity. Instead of criticizing the author, show where he's wrong. You, and a couple others, immediately jumped on the 'hang him' bandwagon, just like you did in the Ferguson case. No, dummy, I didn't. In fact, in the Missouri case, I said the cop should have been indicted and then tried in an open trial, and if he were found not guilty, the verdict would help quell any violent demonstrations. In the Ferguson case the grand jury had less information than you did, I suppose. So, once again, you are misrepresenting what someone else posted here. That's what you righties seem to do best, eh? Yes, my bad...I said 'hang him' when I should have said 'indict him'. Either way, you weren't there. As for Greg, I see no reason to respond to his off the charts hyperbole. I don't have to like a verdict, and I am free to say so. That doesn't make those of us who disgree with these verdicts "mobs" in the street. I didn't like the OJ verdict in his murder trial. Did you? Well of course not, he's backed you into a corner from which *you* must hyperbolize. Toad, you're a joke. -- "When your argument has backed a liberal into a corner, expect to be called a racist." |
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#166
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A bit of satire...
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#167
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A bit of satire...
On 12/7/14 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 07:29:53 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 12/6/14 11:14 PM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 12:37:05 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: On 12/6/14 10:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 07:42:55 -0500, F*O*A*D wrote: I'm not "conflicted" at all. I don't suffer from right-wing rigid personality, and I don't expect the world to be *my way* or no way. I'm glad cops accused of crimes have access to decent counsel at little or no cost beyond their union dues. My personal feelings about these cops who have been in the news lately does not lead me to a right-wing lynch mob mentality. No, it is a left wing lynch mob. You refuse to accept the actions of the justice system. This is yet another in your famous string of attempts to argue your point well beyond the onset of absurdity. You would have been a hoot in college formal debate because you would have been disqualified or booed off the podium. I don't like the actions of grand juries that give cops a free ride when they commit ultraviolence against unarmed civilians, but that doesn't make me or others who feel as I do part of a lynch mob. I didn't like the actions of the O.J. murder jury back in 1995, but I wasn't ready to lynch anyone. I figured O.J. would get what was coming to him, sooner or later, and I think the Missouri cop will, too, and so will your hero, George Zimmerman. You are like the mobs in the street who will accept nothing but an immediate conviction and reject the verdict of a jury in the case of Zimmerman and reject the grand jury in the cases of Wilson and Pantaleo. You had made up your mind before there were any facts established, simply based on media reports that are inaccurate. There you go again, into hyperbole-ville, attempting to argue your points beyond the onset of absurdity. You just deny things that the courts say are true. That is simply a fact. You do not believe Martin attacked Zimmerman, You don't believe Brown charged Wilson and you still think Panteleo choked Garner. Wrong again. You are drowning in your own hyperbole. -- I feel no need to explain my politics to stupid right-wingers. After all, I am *not* the Jackass Whisperer. |
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#168
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A bit of satire...
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#169
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#170
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A bit of satire...
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 12:10:20 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 07:18:42 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 01:04:32 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 06 Dec 2014 23:33:34 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: According at least two sources, Garner did not die at the scene of the confrontation. He suffered cardiac arrest in the ambulance taking him to the hospital and was pronounced dead about an hour later. The EMT's may have had no reason to suspect an impending heart attack. He had a pulse and was breathing. He had complained that he couldn't breathe and that is one of the signs of a heart attack. The 2 IBM guys I know who had one both said it felt like a car was sitting on their chest. All 4 were suspended in July (plenty of cites)and I think 2 were later fired if you can believe CNN. If I am the grand jury, that puts enough reasonable doubt out there not to sustain an indictment. Giving everyone else on the scene, including the supervisor and the other cops who were sitting on Garner immunity was troubling too. There was no windpipe or neck injuries so this was NOT A CHOKING, no matter what Brooke Baldwin and Erin Burnett call it. I think this guy was a heart attack waiting to happen, he had one and they ignored him to death. The city is certainly liable but it looks more like incompetence than murder. If what you say is true, which I don't doubt, then the praise bestowed on the grand jury by the President of New York's police union was well deserved. Good on him, even if his main union follower here disagrees. I am not sure what part you may not think is true but the fact that there was no windpipe or neck injury is widely out there and the fact that everyone but Pantaleo got immunity is also widely reported. There are also a number of news stories in the New York media from July about the EMTs being suspended. I said I didn't doubt any of what you said is true. -- "When your argument has backed a liberal into a corner, expect to be called a racist." |
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