On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 5:51:28 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:44:12 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Ahh, but I didn't get an AR15 because it was beautiful or collectible..

[i'll comment on the next lines...]

I
got it because it was reliable, a good shooter, easy to customize, and
easy to carry. I'm shooting 1-1/2" groups at 100 yards now with ordinary
Wolf Gold ammo.

Sounds just like a decent Mosin to me....


All the advantages of a Mosin without the 10 pound carry weight, 4'
length, and slow bolt action!

Yup, those pop bottles are dangerous sommiches and you need to be able
to get off a quick follow up shot if they turn and charge you.

Our range frowns on "rapid fire" defined as 2 seconds between shots.
Oswald did better than that with a nasty ass Carcano

The old Italian Carcano was a great rifle. And all surplus was in brand new condition. They were never fired and only dropped once.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:06:14 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/26/15 5:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2015 19:42:33 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:44:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 12:32 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:21:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 12:13 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:09:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 11:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:32:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 11:01 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 17:08:54 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:42:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/25/15 3:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:07:10 -0500, Keyser the Geezer
mumbled:

Rifle was made during WWII in the Urals, more likely used to kill German
soldiers. Pretty common rifle, not collector quality,

and if it ain't mine, it's dreck.


Well, if its yours, it must have factory dimples.

===

My Ruger III most certainly does. You probably got yours in the
bargain basement.

He bragged about his 'local price' but won't give the dealer's
name. Wonder why that is? Hmmm?



Man, you won't give up, will you? He's not going to tell you so you
can play Dick Tracy instead of Sheriff John. Or maybe it's just the
Clara in you.

Poor Harry needs all the help he can get, eh?

Someone told me recently that there where a couple things I could
do regarding posts I didn't like.
One was not to read them. Can't remember the other, and too lazy to look it up.

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to help?



Screw you. I'll post whatever I want to post when I want to post it.
You are acting like an old lady at a sewing circle whispering gossip
**** to your girlfriends.

We weren't discussing your posts, we were discussing your reading of *my* posts.

Like I say, don't read what bothers you. Wait, you said that.

I don't care what you post. I just assume you have an 'interest' in whatever it is.



You're starting to repeat yourself .... again.


Comes from working with soldiers and being a teacher. Repition helps to
get the point across.
Somethng about my posts bothers you - cunning linguistics? - I don't know.


I told you why. You sound like an old, gossipy lady.



"Man, you won't give up, will you?"

Ignore 'em. (repetition, yes?)

When you don't have a point, repetition makes you sound like a gossipy old
lady. Not to worry, though...no one would call you a cunning linguist. ?

Hee, hee.

I was going to let Erickson have the last word, but you butted in. Shame on you.



Who decided you were in charge of who gets the last word?

If he had answered, instead of you butting in, then I would have decided who had the last word.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On 1/27/15 4:21 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1025758 Wrote:

-

1. So I can shoot tight groups.

2. I'm not sure what you mean by "superior." The Swedish Mauser is a
better looking rifle than the Mosin, is lighter, shorter, has far less
recoil. It's certainly not a really long distance sniper rifle but,
then, I'm not a sniper.

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Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry, is your Swedish Mauser the rifle or carbine. The Swedish Mauser
and the Mosin Nagant rifles both weigh in at 8.8 lbs vs the Swedish
Mauser carbine which comes in at 7.5 lbs. I am just curious.


*My* Swedish Mauser is on my bucket list. I don't own one. A friend
does. His is the original carbine model from the 19th century. He bought
it at a pawn shop in rural Virginia, and it was damned close to being
"never fired." Literally a 100% rifle. He bought it about 10 years ago
for $250. Sweetest shooting bolt action rifle I've encountered.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:21:18 +0000, RGrew176 wrote:


Keyser Söze;1025758 Wrote:
On 1/26/15 6:46 PM, Tim wrote:-
On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 12:27:29 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:-
On 1/25/15 2:46 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:-
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:07:10 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/25/15 1:58 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:17:03 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

....here's what I spent it on:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=464255949

Scroll down to see pictures. Looks like it's in good shape. Can't wait
to get it. Talked him out of
the shipping charges.

Wouldn't you be concerned about all of the innocent russian soldiers
this rifle may have killed ;-)


Rifle was made during WWII in the Urals, more likely used to kill
German
soldiers. Pretty common rifle, not collector quality.

That green eyed monster comes through every time, Harry.
-

Say what? Why would I want that rifle? It's not nearly as pretty as
the
100-year-old Swedish Mausers I like. And I'm not a sniper wannabe.
-
Then why build an AR with the finest available components along with a
high dollar optical aid?

Sniper rifles have scopes.

BTW Harry, The Russian Mosin was a superior rifle to even the Swedish
Mauser, And the Finnish Mosin was superior to the Russian.

Then again, the Swede models today are probably in better shape than
the Mosin's. After all, the Swedes never were in a real war since
1814.
-

1. So I can shoot tight groups.

2. I'm not sure what you mean by "superior." The Swedish Mauser is a
better looking rifle than the Mosin, is lighter, shorter, has far less
recoil. It's certainly not a really long distance sniper rifle but,
then, I'm not a sniper.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry, is your Swedish Mauser the rifle or carbine. The Swedish Mauser
and the Mosin Nagant rifles both weigh in at 8.8 lbs vs the Swedish
Mauser carbine which comes in at 7.5 lbs. I am just curious.

The Mosin Nagant carbine weighs about as much as the Mosin Nagant 91/30, but the carbine has the
bayonet attached and the 91/30 doesn't.

From pictures, the Swedish Mauser carbine does not have an attached bayonet.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:44:12 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/26/15 7:41 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:03:50 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/26/15 6:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 12:28:20 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/15 2:51 PM, Tim wrote:
Not rare??? Out of some 17 million Negants built, less than 200,000 were sniper rifles.

That's rare!

Now consider those especially with all matching numbers which have survived all this time ( not the mock ups and re-arsenaled parts guns) that makes this item even rarer yet.


Wow. One of 200,000! Rare. But still an ugly rifle. To each his own.


Harry, IMO AR's are the proverbial dime-a-dozen, and they'er far from cute.


Ahh, but I didn't get an AR15 because it was beautiful or collectible.

[i'll comment on the next lines...]

I
got it because it was reliable, a good shooter, easy to customize, and
easy to carry. I'm shooting 1-1/2" groups at 100 yards now with ordinary
Wolf Gold ammo.

Sounds just like a decent Mosin to me....


All the advantages of a Mosin without the 10 pound carry weight, 4'
length, and slow bolt action!

I suppose you go on a lot of long, forced marches and need to spit out rounds in a hurry...at paper?
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On 1/27/15 9:07 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:44:12 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/26/15 7:41 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, January 26, 2015 at 4:03:50 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/26/15 6:50 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 12:28:20 PM UTC-8, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/25/15 2:51 PM, Tim wrote:
Not rare??? Out of some 17 million Negants built, less than 200,000 were sniper rifles.

That's rare!

Now consider those especially with all matching numbers which have survived all this time ( not the mock ups and re-arsenaled parts guns) that makes this item even rarer yet.


Wow. One of 200,000! Rare. But still an ugly rifle. To each his own.


Harry, IMO AR's are the proverbial dime-a-dozen, and they'er far from cute.


Ahh, but I didn't get an AR15 because it was beautiful or collectible.

[i'll comment on the next lines...]

I
got it because it was reliable, a good shooter, easy to customize, and
easy to carry. I'm shooting 1-1/2" groups at 100 yards now with ordinary
Wolf Gold ammo.

Sounds just like a decent Mosin to me....


All the advantages of a Mosin without the 10 pound carry weight, 4'
length, and slow bolt action!

I suppose you go on a lot of long, forced marches and need to spit out rounds in a hurry...at paper?


I see no advantages to an overly heavy, 4' long rifle when there are
lighter and shorter alternatives that are more accurate.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On 1/27/15 8:59 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:06:14 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/26/15 5:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2015 19:42:33 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:44:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 12:32 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:21:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 12:13 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:09:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 11:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:32:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 11:01 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 17:08:54 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:42:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/25/15 3:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:07:10 -0500, Keyser the Geezer
mumbled:

Rifle was made during WWII in the Urals, more likely used to kill German
soldiers. Pretty common rifle, not collector quality,

and if it ain't mine, it's dreck.


Well, if its yours, it must have factory dimples.

===

My Ruger III most certainly does. You probably got yours in the
bargain basement.

He bragged about his 'local price' but won't give the dealer's
name. Wonder why that is? Hmmm?



Man, you won't give up, will you? He's not going to tell you so you
can play Dick Tracy instead of Sheriff John. Or maybe it's just the
Clara in you.

Poor Harry needs all the help he can get, eh?

Someone told me recently that there where a couple things I could
do regarding posts I didn't like.
One was not to read them. Can't remember the other, and too lazy to look it up.

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to help?



Screw you. I'll post whatever I want to post when I want to post it.
You are acting like an old lady at a sewing circle whispering gossip
**** to your girlfriends.

We weren't discussing your posts, we were discussing your reading of *my* posts.

Like I say, don't read what bothers you. Wait, you said that.

I don't care what you post. I just assume you have an 'interest' in whatever it is.



You're starting to repeat yourself .... again.


Comes from working with soldiers and being a teacher. Repition helps to
get the point across.
Somethng about my posts bothers you - cunning linguistics? - I don't know.


I told you why. You sound like an old, gossipy lady.



"Man, you won't give up, will you?"

Ignore 'em. (repetition, yes?)

When you don't have a point, repetition makes you sound like a gossipy old
lady. Not to worry, though...no one would call you a cunning linguist. ?

Hee, hee.

I was going to let Erickson have the last word, but you butted in. Shame on you.



Who decided you were in charge of who gets the last word?

If he had answered, instead of you butting in, then I would have decided who had the last word.


That really isn't logical.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:00:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/27/15 4:21 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Keyser Söze;1025758 Wrote:

-

1. So I can shoot tight groups.

2. I'm not sure what you mean by "superior." The Swedish Mauser is a
better looking rifle than the Mosin, is lighter, shorter, has far less
recoil. It's certainly not a really long distance sniper rifle but,
then, I'm not a sniper.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Harry, is your Swedish Mauser the rifle or carbine. The Swedish Mauser
and the Mosin Nagant rifles both weigh in at 8.8 lbs vs the Swedish
Mauser carbine which comes in at 7.5 lbs. I am just curious.


*My* Swedish Mauser is on my bucket list. I don't own one. A friend
does. His is the original carbine model from the 19th century. He bought
it at a pawn shop in rural Virginia, and it was damned close to being
"never fired." Literally a 100% rifle. He bought it about 10 years ago
for $250. Sweetest shooting bolt action rifle I've encountered.

Here you go. Cheap too.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=463636732
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:12:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/27/15 8:59 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 18:06:14 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/26/15 5:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On 26 Jan 2015 19:42:33 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:44:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 12:32 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:21:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 12:13 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 12:09:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 11:41 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:32:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/26/2015 11:01 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 17:08:54 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:42:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 1/25/15 3:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:07:10 -0500, Keyser the Geezer
mumbled:

Rifle was made during WWII in the Urals, more likely used to kill German
soldiers. Pretty common rifle, not collector quality,

and if it ain't mine, it's dreck.


Well, if its yours, it must have factory dimples.

===

My Ruger III most certainly does. You probably got yours in the
bargain basement.

He bragged about his 'local price' but won't give the dealer's
name. Wonder why that is? Hmmm?



Man, you won't give up, will you? He's not going to tell you so you
can play Dick Tracy instead of Sheriff John. Or maybe it's just the
Clara in you.

Poor Harry needs all the help he can get, eh?

Someone told me recently that there where a couple things I could
do regarding posts I didn't like.
One was not to read them. Can't remember the other, and too lazy to look it up.

Perhaps you'd be kind enough to help?



Screw you. I'll post whatever I want to post when I want to post it.
You are acting like an old lady at a sewing circle whispering gossip
**** to your girlfriends.

We weren't discussing your posts, we were discussing your reading of *my* posts.

Like I say, don't read what bothers you. Wait, you said that.

I don't care what you post. I just assume you have an 'interest' in whatever it is.



You're starting to repeat yourself .... again.


Comes from working with soldiers and being a teacher. Repition helps to
get the point across.
Somethng about my posts bothers you - cunning linguistics? - I don't know.


I told you why. You sound like an old, gossipy lady.



"Man, you won't give up, will you?"

Ignore 'em. (repetition, yes?)

When you don't have a point, repetition makes you sound like a gossipy old
lady. Not to worry, though...no one would call you a cunning linguist. ?

Hee, hee.

I was going to let Erickson have the last word, but you butted in. Shame on you.



Who decided you were in charge of who gets the last word?

If he had answered, instead of you butting in, then I would have decided who had the last word.


That really isn't logical.

Actually it is, but it just went over your head.

For example, you just made a post: "I see no advantages to an overly heavy, 4' long rifle when there
are lighter and shorter alternatives that are more accurate."

That post went unanswered by me. Therefore you had the last word.

Amen.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:28:37 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

That really isn't logical.

Actually it is, but it just went over your head.

For example, you just made a post: "I see no advantages to an overly heavy, 4' long rifle when there
are lighter and shorter alternatives that are more accurate."

That post went unanswered by me. Therefore you had the last word.

===

Harry is very much like a woman in many ways.