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The Luke is nice because its geometry is pretty much identical
to a fixed prop in fwd and rev. No poor performance in rev like some feathering or folding props. Doug "Jere Lull" wrote in message ... Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:45:25 +0000, Jere Lull wrote: Yes, they're expensive, but our 3 blade MaxProp is nearly as efficient as a 2-blade Michigan Wheel, reverse is MUCH, MUCH better and we gain a full knot under sail under many conditions. We got the one that can be adjusted (out of the water), so it's slightly adjustable. Well, for virtually 1/2 the price of the new engine, they'd better walk the dog, paint the boat, fix the head, give me sexual satisfaction and go out and get beer and pizza afterwards! ![]() I'm leaning towards a $500 fixed 3-blade now, either the Campbell Sailor or the MI Wheel "Sailor" line. The improvement in reverse alone may be worth the cost. I saw a 40' Catalina try to back in about a month ago and its prop walk was the worst I've seen in any boat. I think I could have done a bit better than the renter (used to a smaller performance sailboat), but that's because I've intentionally learned how to use walk and know when to punch it and quickly slip into neutral. Imagine having nearly full thrust in reverse if/when you run aground. Being able to get off quickly might save enough of your energy for everything else. BTW, we paid about $2k for our MaxProp just over a year ago. A few minutes after I paid for ours, I chatted with a Catalina 38 owner that got the exact same prop (16" 3 blade). [That's the largest prop they'd sell me; we could fit a 20" with our clearance and would have gotten one if they'd let us -- I'm of the bigger-prop-is-better crowd.] The $1500 differential (possibly less with a Catalina 36) isn't 1/2 the price of the new engine. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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x-no-archive:yes "Doug Dotson" wrote:
The Luke is nice because its geometry is pretty much identical to a fixed prop in fwd and rev. No poor performance in rev like some feathering or folding props. I don't know what makes this so difficult for people to understand, but feathering props are NOT poor performers in reverse. Quite the opposite. "Jere Lull" wrote in message .. . Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:45:25 +0000, Jere Lull wrote: Yes, they're expensive, but our 3 blade MaxProp is nearly as efficient as a 2-blade Michigan Wheel, reverse is MUCH, MUCH better and we gain a full knot under sail under many conditions. We got the one that can be adjusted (out of the water), so it's slightly adjustable. Well, for virtually 1/2 the price of the new engine, they'd better walk the dog, paint the boat, fix the head, give me sexual satisfaction and go out and get beer and pizza afterwards! ![]() I'm leaning towards a $500 fixed 3-blade now, either the Campbell Sailor or the MI Wheel "Sailor" line. The improvement in reverse alone may be worth the cost. I saw a 40' Catalina try to back in about a month ago and its prop walk was the worst I've seen in any boat. I think I could have done a bit better than the renter (used to a smaller performance sailboat), but that's because I've intentionally learned how to use walk and know when to punch it and quickly slip into neutral. Imagine having nearly full thrust in reverse if/when you run aground. Being able to get off quickly might save enough of your energy for everything else. BTW, we paid about $2k for our MaxProp just over a year ago. A few minutes after I paid for ours, I chatted with a Catalina 38 owner that got the exact same prop (16" 3 blade). [That's the largest prop they'd sell me; we could fit a 20" with our clearance and would have gotten one if they'd let us -- I'm of the bigger-prop-is-better crowd.] The $1500 differential (possibly less with a Catalina 36) isn't 1/2 the price of the new engine. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ grandma Rosalie |
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Agreed. My Luke prop has the exact configuration of a fixed prop
when in fwd or rev. No degradation in reverse. Feathers well too. Doug "Rosalie B." wrote in message ... x-no-archive:yes "Doug Dotson" wrote: The Luke is nice because its geometry is pretty much identical to a fixed prop in fwd and rev. No poor performance in rev like some feathering or folding props. I don't know what makes this so difficult for people to understand, but feathering props are NOT poor performers in reverse. Quite the opposite. "Jere Lull" wrote in message .. . Lloyd Sumpter wrote: On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:45:25 +0000, Jere Lull wrote: Yes, they're expensive, but our 3 blade MaxProp is nearly as efficient as a 2-blade Michigan Wheel, reverse is MUCH, MUCH better and we gain a full knot under sail under many conditions. We got the one that can be adjusted (out of the water), so it's slightly adjustable. Well, for virtually 1/2 the price of the new engine, they'd better walk the dog, paint the boat, fix the head, give me sexual satisfaction and go out and get beer and pizza afterwards! ![]() I'm leaning towards a $500 fixed 3-blade now, either the Campbell Sailor or the MI Wheel "Sailor" line. The improvement in reverse alone may be worth the cost. I saw a 40' Catalina try to back in about a month ago and its prop walk was the worst I've seen in any boat. I think I could have done a bit better than the renter (used to a smaller performance sailboat), but that's because I've intentionally learned how to use walk and know when to punch it and quickly slip into neutral. Imagine having nearly full thrust in reverse if/when you run aground. Being able to get off quickly might save enough of your energy for everything else. BTW, we paid about $2k for our MaxProp just over a year ago. A few minutes after I paid for ours, I chatted with a Catalina 38 owner that got the exact same prop (16" 3 blade). [That's the largest prop they'd sell me; we could fit a 20" with our clearance and would have gotten one if they'd let us -- I'm of the bigger-prop-is-better crowd.] The $1500 differential (possibly less with a Catalina 36) isn't 1/2 the price of the new engine. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ grandma Rosalie |
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Rosalie B. wrote:
x-no-archive:yes "Doug Dotson" wrote: The Luke is nice because its geometry is pretty much identical to a fixed prop in fwd and rev. No poor performance in rev like some feathering or folding props. I don't know what makes this so difficult for people to understand, but feathering props are NOT poor performers in reverse. Quite the opposite. They're probably confusing them with *folding* props, which have a bad rep.... I believe all of the *feathering* ones improve reverse substantially. Having switched, I don't think I'll ever have a fixed prop again. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
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