Received a foot or so of snow Sunday and it's snowing now with another 10 inches or so and maybe more on Saturday.
Sidewalks are in desperate shape and most secondary streets narrowed to one lane.
Now one clown city councilor is on tv suggesting we should all get out and not only shovel our sidewalks, but also help neighbours do same. This is one of the jackass councilors who voted last year to add an extra charge on our city taxes and have a private company do all the sidewalk cleaning. We, the taxpayers, had no say in the change. I know where I'd like to place my shovel.

On 3/17/2015 10:17 PM, True North wrote:
Received a foot or so of snow Sunday and it's snowing now with another 10 inches or so and maybe more on Saturday.
Sidewalks are in desperate shape and most secondary streets narrowed to one lane.
Now one clown city councilor is on tv suggesting we should all get out and not only shovel our sidewalks, but also help neighbours do same. This is one of the jackass councilors who voted last year to add an extra charge on our city taxes and have a private company do all the sidewalk cleaning. We, the taxpayers, had no say in the change. I know where I'd like to place my shovel.


So you were blessed with a foot of snow. My heart bleeds for you. Love
thy neighbor,Jackass.

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Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:17:57 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Received a foot or so of snow Sunday and it's snowing now with another 10 inches or so and maybe more on Saturday.
Sidewalks are in desperate shape and most secondary streets narrowed to one lane.
Now one clown city councilor is on tv suggesting we should all get out and not only shovel our sidewalks, but also help neighbours do same. This is one of the jackass councilors who voted last year to add an extra charge on our city taxes and have a private company do all the sidewalk cleaning. We, the taxpayers, had no say in the change. I know where I'd like to place my shovel.

The councilman is correct. Are there kids in your neighborhood who have to walk to
school or catch a bus? Should they be forced to walk in the streets? Are there
disabled who need to use a sidewalk? Should people be forced to walk there dogs on
one lane roads? Some thoughts from our county:

As a community, we need to come together and take our snow and shovel it!

Help keep sidewalks, bus stops and fire hydrants clear of snow.


The county and state do not clear snow from public sidewalks or trails.

Do your part to keep your neighborhood safe for emergency personnel, pedestrians and
cyclists.

Develop a plan with neighbors to help those who can't remove snow.

Makes good sense.
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Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 00:38:01 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:30:16 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:17:57 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Received a foot or so of snow Sunday and it's snowing now with another 10 inches or so and maybe more on Saturday.
Sidewalks are in desperate shape and most secondary streets narrowed to one lane.
Now one clown city councilor is on tv suggesting we should all get out and not only shovel our sidewalks, but also help neighbours do same. This is one of the jackass councilors who voted last year to add an extra charge on our city taxes and have a private company do all the sidewalk cleaning. We, the taxpayers, had no say in the change. I know where I'd like to place my shovel.

The councilman is correct. Are there kids in your neighborhood who have to walk to
school or catch a bus? Should they be forced to walk in the streets? Are there
disabled who need to use a sidewalk? Should people be forced to walk there dogs on
one lane roads? Some thoughts from our county:

As a community, we need to come together and take our snow and shovel it!

Help keep sidewalks, bus stops and fire hydrants clear of snow.


The county and state do not clear snow from public sidewalks or trails.

Do your part to keep your neighborhood safe for emergency personnel, pedestrians and
cyclists.

Develop a plan with neighbors to help those who can't remove snow.

Makes good sense.


When I lived in places with sidewalks, DC and close in PG county there
was an ordinance that you had to shovel the sidewalk in front of your
house. I am not sure I ever saw anyone getting in trouble for not
doing it but it was the law. Most people either did it themselves, had
a kid do it or a neighbor pitched in and did it. These were small city
lots so it was not a lot of sidewalk to clear.
When I got farther in the country, there were no sidewalks and it was
a moot point.

I had thought there was a 24-hr law in Fairfax County. Turned out there isn't. It's
just courtesy and respect for the safety of others. Some homeowners' associations
mandate sidewalk snow removal. When we were in the townhouse we had 24 hours, or the
association's 'hired thugs with shovels' would do the job. Then the association would
bill the homeowner the $10.
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Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner
*behavior* causes problems.

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:30:16 -0400, John H.
wrote:
- show quoted text -
"When I lived in places with sidewalks, DC and close in PG county there
was an ordinance that you had to shovel the sidewalk in front of your
house. I am not sure I ever saw anyone getting in trouble for not
doing it but it was the law. Most people either did it themselves, had
a kid do it or a neighbor pitched in and did it. These were small city
lots so it was not a lot of sidewalk to clear.
When I got farther in the country, there were no sidewalks and it was
a moot point."

Exactly the way it was here for as long as I remember. Then last year, with out consulting the taxpayers, the city decided to extend sidewalk snow removal to the old original part of Halifax and charge us. The new service is dismal. The little Bobcats tore up a lot grass and damaged stone walls, etc..
They changed this year to little John Deere tractors with the articulating plows but were so slow getting around that the snow/freezing rain/flash freeze/snow proved to be impossible to overcome.
Anyway everyone's been resentful since the majority of us did a much better job ourselves. Still waiting for the sidewalk plows to show up here. I think they gave up and conceded defeat.
Funny, on a local history blog they showed and old truck being hand loaded by a gang of men with shovels.
That brings up another problem...the city used to dump the snow into the harbour but the federal gov't decided to outlaw that.
Crazy thing is the dept of defense and the port authority still do it but the city can't. Special permission was granted for a one time occasion after 'White Juan' back in February 2004.

On 3/19/2015 12:38 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:30:16 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:17:57 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Received a foot or so of snow Sunday and it's snowing now with another 10 inches or so and maybe more on Saturday.
Sidewalks are in desperate shape and most secondary streets narrowed to one lane.
Now one clown city councilor is on tv suggesting we should all get out and not only shovel our sidewalks, but also help neighbours do same. This is one of the jackass councilors who voted last year to add an extra charge on our city taxes and have a private company do all the sidewalk cleaning. We, the taxpayers, had no say in the change. I know where I'd like to place my shovel.

The councilman is correct. Are there kids in your neighborhood who have to walk to
school or catch a bus? Should they be forced to walk in the streets? Are there
disabled who need to use a sidewalk? Should people be forced to walk there dogs on
one lane roads? Some thoughts from our county:

As a community, we need to come together and take our snow and shovel it!

Help keep sidewalks, bus stops and fire hydrants clear of snow.


The county and state do not clear snow from public sidewalks or trails.

Do your part to keep your neighborhood safe for emergency personnel, pedestrians and
cyclists.

Develop a plan with neighbors to help those who can't remove snow.

Makes good sense.


When I lived in places with sidewalks, DC and close in PG county there
was an ordinance that you had to shovel the sidewalk in front of your
house. I am not sure I ever saw anyone getting in trouble for not
doing it but it was the law. Most people either did it themselves, had
a kid do it or a neighbor pitched in and did it. These were small city
lots so it was not a lot of sidewalk to clear.
When I got farther in the country, there were no sidewalks and it was
a moot point.

Law or not, civilized people would do what they could to help their
neighborhood be safer. I really don't understand Don's anger about being
asked to pitch in. He's only got 40 feet of frontage. That's what, 5
minutes of labor to clear a foot of snow?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On 3/19/2015 8:55 AM, True North wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:30:16 -0400, John H.
wrote:
- show quoted text -
"When I lived in places with sidewalks, DC and close in PG county there
was an ordinance that you had to shovel the sidewalk in front of your
house. I am not sure I ever saw anyone getting in trouble for not
doing it but it was the law. Most people either did it themselves, had
a kid do it or a neighbor pitched in and did it. These were small city
lots so it was not a lot of sidewalk to clear.
When I got farther in the country, there were no sidewalks and it was
a moot point."

Exactly the way it was here for as long as I remember. Then last year, with out consulting the taxpayers, the city decided to extend sidewalk snow removal to the old original part of Halifax and charge us. The new service is dismal. The little Bobcats tore up a lot grass and damaged stone walls, etc.
They changed this year to little John Deere tractors with the articulating plows but were so slow getting around that the snow/freezing rain/flash freeze/snow proved to be impossible to overcome.
Anyway everyone's been resentful since the majority of us did a much better job ourselves. Still waiting for the sidewalk plows to show up here. I think they gave up and conceded defeat.
Funny, on a local history blog they showed and old truck being hand loaded by a gang of men with shovels.
That brings up another problem...the city used to dump the snow into the harbour but the federal gov't decided to outlaw that.
Crazy thing is the dept of defense and the port authority still do it but the city can't. Special permission was granted for a one time occasion after 'White Juan' back in February 2004.


What's wrong with dumping snow into a cesspool?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

On 3/19/2015 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:25:50 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/19/2015 8:55 AM, True North wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:30:16 -0400, John H.
wrote:
- show quoted text -
"When I lived in places with sidewalks, DC and close in PG county there
was an ordinance that you had to shovel the sidewalk in front of your
house. I am not sure I ever saw anyone getting in trouble for not
doing it but it was the law. Most people either did it themselves, had
a kid do it or a neighbor pitched in and did it. These were small city
lots so it was not a lot of sidewalk to clear.
When I got farther in the country, there were no sidewalks and it was
a moot point."

Exactly the way it was here for as long as I remember. Then last year, with out consulting the taxpayers, the city decided to extend sidewalk snow removal to the old original part of Halifax and charge us. The new service is dismal. The little Bobcats tore up a lot grass and damaged stone walls, etc.
They changed this year to little John Deere tractors with the articulating plows but were so slow getting around that the snow/freezing rain/flash freeze/snow proved to be impossible to overcome.
Anyway everyone's been resentful since the majority of us did a much better job ourselves. Still waiting for the sidewalk plows to show up here. I think they gave up and conceded defeat.
Funny, on a local history blog they showed and old truck being hand loaded by a gang of men with shovels.
That brings up another problem...the city used to dump the snow into the harbour but the federal gov't decided to outlaw that.
Crazy thing is the dept of defense and the port authority still do it but the city can't. Special permission was granted for a one time occasion after 'White Juan' back in February 2004.


What's wrong with dumping snow into a cesspool?

I think that is just the government giving the illusion of doing
something. Street runoff ends up in the rivers anyway unless you have
some kind of storm drain system different than 99.99% of the country
and that is what they are worried about with the snow.
They just don't want to be as visible as dump trucks dumping the salt,
lead and trash laden snow in the water. Let it run down the storm
drain and "disappear" safely.
.
It is sort of like the Redd Foxx joke about ****ing in the pool.
"Everybody ****es in the pool" ... "But not from the diving board"



I disagree. If it were allowed it would happen on a regular basis after
every snowfall. The prohibition is designed to prevent the regular
contamination of rivers, harbors and coastal oceans with chemicals,
oils, etc. In emergency situations, like what occurred in this area
during February a temporary waiver of the prohibition can be obtained.

Normal drainage through storm drains is a slower process that doesn't
suddenly whack the ecosystem like regular dumping of hundreds of truck
loads of snow, salt, chemicals, oil and other contaminates would.

10:23 AMJustan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"Law or not, civilized people would do what they could to help their
neighborhood be safer. I really don't understand Don's anger about being
asked to pitch in. He's only got 40 feet of frontage. That's what, 5
minutes of labor to clear a foot of snow?"


You and the JohnnyMop can relax, Sinky.
Neighbour on the corner came by with his snowblower and cleared my sidewalk and driveway.
Even came back this morning to clear what the snowplow pushed back in overnight.

On 3/19/2015 10:51 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/19/2015 10:32 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 09:25:50 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 3/19/2015 8:55 AM, True North wrote:

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 15:30:16 -0400, John H.
wrote:
- show quoted text -
"When I lived in places with sidewalks, DC and close in PG county there
was an ordinance that you had to shovel the sidewalk in front of your
house. I am not sure I ever saw anyone getting in trouble for not
doing it but it was the law. Most people either did it themselves, had
a kid do it or a neighbor pitched in and did it. These were small city
lots so it was not a lot of sidewalk to clear.
When I got farther in the country, there were no sidewalks and it was
a moot point."

Exactly the way it was here for as long as I remember. Then last
year, with out consulting the taxpayers, the city decided to extend
sidewalk snow removal to the old original part of Halifax and charge
us. The new service is dismal. The little Bobcats tore up a lot
grass and damaged stone walls, etc.
They changed this year to little John Deere tractors with the
articulating plows but were so slow getting around that the
snow/freezing rain/flash freeze/snow proved to be impossible to
overcome.
Anyway everyone's been resentful since the majority of us did a much
better job ourselves. Still waiting for the sidewalk plows to show
up here. I think they gave up and conceded defeat.
Funny, on a local history blog they showed and old truck being hand
loaded by a gang of men with shovels.
That brings up another problem...the city used to dump the snow into
the harbour but the federal gov't decided to outlaw that.
Crazy thing is the dept of defense and the port authority still do
it but the city can't. Special permission was granted for a one time
occasion after 'White Juan' back in February 2004.


What's wrong with dumping snow into a cesspool?

I think that is just the government giving the illusion of doing
something. Street runoff ends up in the rivers anyway unless you have
some kind of storm drain system different than 99.99% of the country
and that is what they are worried about with the snow.
They just don't want to be as visible as dump trucks dumping the salt,
lead and trash laden snow in the water. Let it run down the storm
drain and "disappear" safely.
.
It is sort of like the Redd Foxx joke about ****ing in the pool.
"Everybody ****es in the pool" ... "But not from the diving board"



I disagree. If it were allowed it would happen on a regular basis after
every snowfall. The prohibition is designed to prevent the regular
contamination of rivers, harbors and coastal oceans with chemicals,
oils, etc. In emergency situations, like what occurred in this area
during February a temporary waiver of the prohibition can be obtained.

Normal drainage through storm drains is a slower process that doesn't
suddenly whack the ecosystem like regular dumping of hundreds of truck
loads of snow, salt, chemicals, oil and other contaminates would.

The body of water in question was the most disgustingly polluted in all
of Canada. What more harm could salt and traces of oil do?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."