On 7/20/15 9:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000, comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000 in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.



"Fatal for Trump."

Hilarious from any and every point of view.

On 7/20/2015 9:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000, comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000 in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.



Trump's fatal flaw is his gigantic ego. He can't be wrong about
anything. Right now it's his blunder about McCain. In a week it
will be something else.

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 7/20/2015 9:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000,
comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This
happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero
thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought
the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000
in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.



Trump's fatal flaw is his gigantic ego. He can't be wrong about
anything. Right now it's his blunder about McCain. In a week it
will be something else.

Hope he stays in as a repub or an Indy. 'Merica needs him.
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On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:53:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Trump's fatal flaw is his gigantic ego. He can't be wrong about
anything. Right now it's his blunder about McCain. In a week it
will be something else.

===

Absolutely right, a gigantic ego coupled with a thin skin and a
propensity to shoot from the hip. Not exactly presidential leadership
material in my opinion.

On 7/21/15 1:07 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:35:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/20/15 9:34 PM, wrote:

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.



"Fatal for Trump."

Hilarious from any and every point of view.

Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks
will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do
something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid
will fail ... at least without significant democratic support.
That is still a possibility tho.


I wasn't thinking that you meant Trump would die. Trump appeals to the
haters because he says awful things about people and groups of people.
In 'Merica, that sort of posturing by a political figure seems to have
staying power...ala Sarah Palin, for example.

I only *hope* he gets the GOP nomination or decides to run as an
Independent; I don't believe either of those outcomes will happen. But
no matter what Trump decides to do, I don't believe he'll settle back
and STFU. He's going to have a negative impact on GOP presidential
chances. Thankfully.

Oh, and Bernie Sanders has already stated he wouldn't run as an
Independent. I'm sure he'll keep his word.

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000, comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000 in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.

Oh,OK... so it's a "joke" when a liberal says the same thing that Trump did?
And, McCain thought it funny when Franken said it? So why is the exact same comment not funny now?

I believe Sen. McCain to be a war hero, so I don't like how either Franken or Trump phrased what they said. but, there is a clear double standard from Democrats, the media, and Senator McCain himself. Has Al Franken apologized to veterans in general, as John McCain has called on Trump to do?

And....so far, I've not heard any apology from Senator McCain for calling those 15,000 Trump supporters in Arizona "crazies".

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 04:32:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 6:34:42 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:12 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote:

On Monday, July 20, 2015 at 2:42:22 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
Why is this guy getting a pass from you war veterans?

He's a scumbag and a liar and doesn't deserve your tacit approval.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...isoner-of-war/

Why did you and Krause give Al Franken a pass?

When Senator McCain was running for the White House in 2000, comedian/author Al Franken made comments very similar to Trump's. This happened before Franken was selected to the U.S. Senate.

"I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don't buy the war hero thing," Franken said at the time. "Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I'm concerned he sat out the war."

Franken's thoughts were part of a post on Salon.com in January of 2000 in a story titled, "What's at Stake in the 2000 Elections?"

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.

Oh,OK... so it's a "joke" when a liberal says the same thing that Trump did?
And, McCain thought it funny when Franken said it? So why is the exact same comment not funny now?

I believe Sen. McCain to be a war hero, so I don't like how either Franken or Trump phrased what they said. but, there is a clear double standard from Democrats, the media, and Senator McCain himself. Has Al Franken apologized to veterans in general, as John McCain has called on Trump to do?

And....so far, I've not heard any apology from Senator McCain for calling those 15,000 Trump supporters in Arizona "crazies".

Good questions. Liberals won't address them, however.
--

Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:35:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/20/15 9:34 PM, wrote:

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.



"Fatal for Trump."

Hilarious from any and every point of view.

Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks
will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do
something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid
will fail ... at least without significant democratic support.
That is still a possibility tho.

What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support?

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:35:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/20/15 9:34 PM, wrote:

Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain
and he did the joke again on a TV show.

I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover
and he doubled down on the insult.
I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from.
It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was
turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't
go, he wasn't going.



"Fatal for Trump."

Hilarious from any and every point of view.

Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks
will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do
something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid
will fail ... at least without significant democratic support.
That is still a possibility tho.

What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support?

===

Working class folks might very well support his anti-immigration
stance.

On 7/21/15 8:45 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote:


Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks
will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do
something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid
will fail ... at least without significant democratic support.
That is still a possibility tho.

What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support?

I bet that anti immigrant message resounds with those rednecks up in
the rust belt who watched their UAW jobs go south. You folks assume
all democrats are latte sipping erudites, sitting around debating the
virtues of public transit but there are plenty of blue collar
democrats. Without them, you would not win many elections



Those UAW jobs didn't go "south" because of immigrants, they went south
to Tennessee, Georgia, and the Carolinas because the jobless peopole
down there were hungry for any sort of decent work, and didn't care
whether the corporations would exploit them, and pay them far less in
salary and benefits.

You make a lot of assumptions about "folks" you don't really know.