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On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 1:09:47 PM UTC-7, jps wrote:
You just can't take arrogance in your black folk. Uppity. Gibberish! |
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:33:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:35:58 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/20/15 9:34 PM, wrote: Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain and he did the joke again on a TV show. I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover and he doubled down on the insult. I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from. It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't go, he wasn't going. "Fatal for Trump." Hilarious from any and every point of view. Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid will fail ... at least without significant democratic support. That is still a possibility tho. What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support? === Working class folks might very well support his anti-immigration stance. Working folks don't want the jobs illegal immigrants take. The only overlap might be in the construction industry and those guys are already scraping the IQ barrel from breathing portland cement dust. Which means they're voting Republican already. If they're part of the trades, they don't hire illegals for union gigs. |
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On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:45:46 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote: Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid will fail ... at least without significant democratic support. That is still a possibility tho. What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support? I bet that anti immigrant message resounds with those rednecks up in the rust belt who watched their UAW jobs go south. You folks assume all democrats are latte sipping erudites, sitting around debating the virtues of public transit but there are plenty of blue collar democrats. Without them, you would not win many elections Globalism has surely screwed the middle class, but given the choice between big business Republicans and their uber wealthy constituents and the Democrats who've always supported unions and the working class, those guys will still vote Dem. |
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 02:12:30 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:15:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/21/15 8:45 PM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote: Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid will fail ... at least without significant democratic support. That is still a possibility tho. What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support? I bet that anti immigrant message resounds with those rednecks up in the rust belt who watched their UAW jobs go south. You folks assume all democrats are latte sipping erudites, sitting around debating the virtues of public transit but there are plenty of blue collar democrats. Without them, you would not win many elections Those UAW jobs didn't go "south" because of immigrants, they went south to Tennessee, Georgia, and the Carolinas because the jobless peopole down there were hungry for any sort of decent work, and didn't care whether the corporations would exploit them, and pay them far less in salary and benefits. You make a lot of assumptions about "folks" you don't really know. I know a bunch of UAW people. My wife's family and most of their friends worked for Chrysler or Delco. Before Tennessee, the jobs were going to Mexico and a lot of the manufacturing is still there. That is where the Delco Radio operation went when my mother in law, 2 sisters in law and several of their friends lost their jobs. The last time I was in Kokomo, that was a big empty building. Ask those people what they think of Mexicans. Mexicans doing labor in the US or Mexicans doing skilled assembly jobs in Mexico? |
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On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 1:11:09 AM UTC-7, jps wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:33:49 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:35:58 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/20/15 9:34 PM, wrote: Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain and he did the joke again on a TV show. I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover and he doubled down on the insult. I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from. It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't go, he wasn't going. "Fatal for Trump." Hilarious from any and every point of view. Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid will fail ... at least without significant democratic support. That is still a possibility tho. What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support? === Working class folks might very well support his anti-immigration stance. Working folks don't want the jobs illegal immigrants take. The only overlap might be in the construction industry and those guys are already scraping the IQ barrel from breathing portland cement dust. Which means they're voting Republican already. If they're part of the trades, they don't hire illegals for union gigs. Do you screen the illegals that you hire? |
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On 7/22/15 2:12 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:15:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/21/15 8:45 PM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote: Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid will fail ... at least without significant democratic support. That is still a possibility tho. What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support? I bet that anti immigrant message resounds with those rednecks up in the rust belt who watched their UAW jobs go south. You folks assume all democrats are latte sipping erudites, sitting around debating the virtues of public transit but there are plenty of blue collar democrats. Without them, you would not win many elections Those UAW jobs didn't go "south" because of immigrants, they went south to Tennessee, Georgia, and the Carolinas because the jobless peopole down there were hungry for any sort of decent work, and didn't care whether the corporations would exploit them, and pay them far less in salary and benefits. You make a lot of assumptions about "folks" you don't really know. I know a bunch of UAW people. My wife's family and most of their friends worked for Chrysler or Delco. Before Tennessee, the jobs were going to Mexico and a lot of the manufacturing is still there. That is where the Delco Radio operation went when my mother in law, 2 sisters in law and several of their friends lost their jobs. The last time I was in Kokomo, that was a big empty building. Ask those people what they think of Mexicans. Once again, it isn't the Mexicans who screwed over these workers...it is their former employers. The anger should be directed at the companies who moved the jobs offshore for greed while in search of cheap labor and weak environmental and safety standards. While there will be some workers who may blame the Mexican workers, Chinese workers, Vietnamese workers, et cetera, most know by now it was their former corporate employers who did them dirty. |
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On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 4:14:56 AM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 02:12:30 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:15:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/21/15 8:45 PM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote: Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid will fail ... at least without significant democratic support. That is still a possibility tho. What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support? I bet that anti immigrant message resounds with those rednecks up in the rust belt who watched their UAW jobs go south. You folks assume all democrats are latte sipping erudites, sitting around debating the virtues of public transit but there are plenty of blue collar democrats. Without them, you would not win many elections Those UAW jobs didn't go "south" because of immigrants, they went south to Tennessee, Georgia, and the Carolinas because the jobless peopole down there were hungry for any sort of decent work, and didn't care whether the corporations would exploit them, and pay them far less in salary and benefits. You make a lot of assumptions about "folks" you don't really know. I know a bunch of UAW people. My wife's family and most of their friends worked for Chrysler or Delco. Before Tennessee, the jobs were going to Mexico and a lot of the manufacturing is still there. That is where the Delco Radio operation went when my mother in law, 2 sisters in law and several of their friends lost their jobs. The last time I was in Kokomo, that was a big empty building. Ask those people what they think of Mexicans. Mexicans doing labor in the US or Mexicans doing skilled assembly jobs in Mexico? My ex-wife worked at the Lordstown, OH GM plant straight out of high school back in the late 70's. Skilled assembly job? What a laugh. Barely trained monkey work is more like it. And the pay was damn good, and the union protected your job no matter how badly you screwed up. She used to boast about the time she purposely caused the assembly line to shut down. Got called in to be fired, but the union rep saved her. That kind of union crap is what ultimately moved those jobs down south and to Mexico. The union had a big hand in the loss of middle class manufacturing in America. |
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On 7/22/2015 2:12 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:15:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/21/15 8:45 PM, wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote: Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid will fail ... at least without significant democratic support. That is still a possibility tho. What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support? I bet that anti immigrant message resounds with those rednecks up in the rust belt who watched their UAW jobs go south. You folks assume all democrats are latte sipping erudites, sitting around debating the virtues of public transit but there are plenty of blue collar democrats. Without them, you would not win many elections Those UAW jobs didn't go "south" because of immigrants, they went south to Tennessee, Georgia, and the Carolinas because the jobless peopole down there were hungry for any sort of decent work, and didn't care whether the corporations would exploit them, and pay them far less in salary and benefits. You make a lot of assumptions about "folks" you don't really know. I know a bunch of UAW people. My wife's family and most of their friends worked for Chrysler or Delco. Before Tennessee, the jobs were going to Mexico and a lot of the manufacturing is still there. That is where the Delco Radio operation went when my mother in law, 2 sisters in law and several of their friends lost their jobs. The last time I was in Kokomo, that was a big empty building. Ask those people what they think of Mexicans. It's not the Mexicans fault. It's the damn unions that make American industries non-competative. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On 7/22/2015 4:11 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:33:49 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:10:59 -0700, jps wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 01:07:47 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:35:58 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/20/15 9:34 PM, wrote: Fraken is a comedian and he made it clear it was a joke. Later McCain and he did the joke again on a TV show. I do believe this may be fatal for trump. He had the chance to recover and he doubled down on the insult. I am not sure he even understands what the hero part came from. It wasn't being shot down or even the years in captivity. It was turning down the chance to be released. McCain said if the rest can't go, he wasn't going. "Fatal for Trump." Hilarious from any and every point of view. Why is that? I don't mean he will die or even that the TV networks will never hire him again. I just think that if he doesn't do something to walk back this John McCain thing his presidential bid will fail ... at least without significant democratic support. That is still a possibility tho. What part of Trump's message do you think Democrats would support? === Working class folks might very well support his anti-immigration stance. Working folks don't want the jobs illegal immigrants take. The only overlap might be in the construction industry and those guys are already scraping the IQ barrel from breathing portland cement dust. Which means they're voting Republican already. If they're part of the trades, they don't hire illegals for union gigs. Sounds like you've been breathing the fairy dust. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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