On 7/28/2015 3:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:57:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Hillary is more like Ted
Cruz. Mysterious and scary.

Ted Cruz is a lot smarter than Hillary and he has better credentials,
even using Harry's standards. (The coveted BA from Princeton, JD from
Harvard Law, Magna cum laude, clerk for the chief justice, Law school
professor).
Dershowitz, his prof at Harvard said "Cruz was off-the-charts
brilliant".

I imagine in a nose to nose debate will Hillary he would mop the floor
with her.

I am just not a fan of his politics.



He might be smart but ever since I listened to him reciting Dr. Seuss
and green eggs, he gives me the willies. He sounds like a cast member
of some Dracula movie.

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 12:43:55 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 7/28/2015 11:45 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/28/15 11:04 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:05:15 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:



If you are claiming Jim Webb is charismatic, your connection to reality
was severed long ago.

I am not sure we have actually seen that much of Webb.


As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers. By
definition, she is charismatic.

She has a large name recognition factor and coattails from her hubby.
If she was still Hillary Roddam, nobody would give her a second
glance.
Her credentials are as a neocon senator who was for the Iraq war and
as a failed SoS who left the US is worse shape than it was when she
got there.

When the campaign finally gets down to looking at her record, she will
be a solid 47% candidate. The only way she can win is if the GOP vote
splits and that is what you keep saying here about Trump.



Really? I don't see any of the GOPer wannabes beating her in a general
election, especially Foot-in-Mouth Jeb. And, hey, if the Trumpster makes
an Indy run, more power to him. He'd pull 10% of the vote, at least, and
95% of that would be GOPer voters. Result? Hillary wins in a landslide.
Works for me.

Why would you want a character like Hillery as your president?

Her charisma perhaps?
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:39:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 7/28/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers.


So do Lemmings.

Jim Webb is not without his flaws although I don't find them
particularly negative. He's serious, can exhibit a bit of a temper
and doesn't kowtow to anyone.

He's a Democrat but has an independent streak in him. He doesn't
necessarily follow the "party line" if it's something he doesn't believe in.

I like that.


And that's probably why Harry doesn't like him.
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

On 7/28/15 3:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:39:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 7/28/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers.


So do Lemmings.

Jim Webb is not without his flaws although I don't find them
particularly negative. He's serious, can exhibit a bit of a temper
and doesn't kowtow to anyone.

He's a Democrat but has an independent streak in him. He doesn't
necessarily follow the "party line" if it's something he doesn't believe in.

I like that.


And that's probably why Harry doesn't like him.



I never said or even implied I didn't like Jim Webb. I don't think he
has much charisma, and I'm not impressed with him as a possible
candidate for POTUS. He seems a perfectly decent guy, though.

I wish you right-wingers would learn how to read and comprehend what you
read.

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:38:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 7/28/15 3:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:39:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 7/28/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers.


So do Lemmings.

Jim Webb is not without his flaws although I don't find them
particularly negative. He's serious, can exhibit a bit of a temper
and doesn't kowtow to anyone.

He's a Democrat but has an independent streak in him. He doesn't
necessarily follow the "party line" if it's something he doesn't believe in.

I like that.


And that's probably why Harry doesn't like him.



I never said or even implied I didn't like Jim Webb. I don't think he
has much charisma, and I'm not impressed with him as a possible
candidate for POTUS. He seems a perfectly decent guy, though.

I wish you right-wingers would learn how to read and comprehend what you
read.

Normally, if one has nothing but negative comments to make about an individual, then
a third party might infer that the one does not 'like' the individual.

For example, I can't think of anyone who has ever stated, "I don't like Harry
Krause." But, from the negative comments made by many folks in the newsgroup, one
might infer that you are not 'liked' by those folks.

You see?

Perhaps you should stick to a discussion of the eating habits of your owls.
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Guns don't cause problems.
Gun owner behavior causes problems.

On 7/28/2015 4:09 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:27:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/28/2015 3:05 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:57:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Hillary is more like Ted
Cruz. Mysterious and scary.

Ted Cruz is a lot smarter than Hillary and he has better credentials,
even using Harry's standards. (The coveted BA from Princeton, JD from
Harvard Law, Magna cum laude, clerk for the chief justice, Law school
professor).
Dershowitz, his prof at Harvard said "Cruz was off-the-charts
brilliant".

I imagine in a nose to nose debate will Hillary he would mop the floor
with her.

I am just not a fan of his politics.



He might be smart but ever since I listened to him reciting Dr. Seuss
and green eggs, he gives me the willies. He sounds like a cast member
of some Dracula movie.


A lot of highly educated people are a little creepy. Look at Ted
Kaczynski



And "smart" doesn't necessarily mean "sane".

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On 7/28/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers.


So do Lemmings.

Jim Webb is not without his flaws although I don't find them
particularly negative. He's serious, can exhibit a bit of a temper
and doesn't kowtow to anyone.

He's a Democrat but has an independent streak in him. He doesn't
necessarily follow the "party line" if it's something he doesn't believe in.

I like that.

I like the guy. Seems honest. But I haven't heard any policy from him.
You probably can't win the presidency with 2 divorces behind you.

On 7/28/2015 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/28/15 3:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:39:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/28/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers.


So do Lemmings.

Jim Webb is not without his flaws although I don't find them
particularly negative. He's serious, can exhibit a bit of a temper
and doesn't kowtow to anyone.

He's a Democrat but has an independent streak in him. He doesn't
necessarily follow the "party line" if it's something he doesn't
believe in.

I like that.


And that's probably why Harry doesn't like him.



I never said or even implied I didn't like Jim Webb. I don't think he
has much charisma, and I'm not impressed with him as a possible
candidate for POTUS. He seems a perfectly decent guy, though.

I wish you right-wingers would learn how to read and comprehend what you
read.

He's perfectly decent ... in a rather non-liberal way.

There are some reports of Jim Webb's rather colorful background in a
book written by Chase Untermeyer entitled, "Inside Reagan's Navy".

Chase Untermeyer, a former Pentagon official who worked for Webb when
Webb was Secretary of the Navy wrote about an incident Webb told him
about when Webb was attending the Naval Academy. Untermeyer said that
Webb was fighting with a ponytailed biker he had an altercation with.

“I had him by the hair and was beating his head on the sidewalk when he
suddenly went limp on me,” Webb recounted. “Then it came to me: I had
killed the ****ing son of a bitch, and I would be put on report back at
the Academy! So I revived him—whereupon he came to and kicked me in the
head about 10 times till I was able to grab his leg... Moral: Show no
mercy in a fight.”

He also briefly taught at the Naval Academy but was canned because of
his opposition to having women serving in combat roles in the military.
This was in 1979.

While serving as Secretary of the Navy, one of his assistant
secretaries returned to work from a three-week senior management course
at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, Webb’s greeting was: “Are you
an asshole yet?”

Then there's the account of the cartoon posted on a bulletin board in
the office of a female US Navy captain. The cartoon was entitled, “The
Evolution of Authority” and had images of an ape's footprint, then a
man's shoeprint followed by a print of a woman's high-heeled shoe.

According to Chase Untermeyer, Webb went ballistic. “We should be
applying the same standard we would to a male,” he barked. “That was
inappropriate and unnecessarily inflammatory. If a man had put something
like that against women on his wall we would be stuck with an EEOC
complaint.”

Untermeyer sneaked into the captain's office and removed the cartoon,
only to find it replaced with a new copy the next day. He had to sneak
in again and remove the replacement fearing a total meltdown by the
Secretary of the Navy.

BTW ... Untermeyer fully supports and endorses Webb's presidential bid.

On 7/28/15 6:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/28/2015 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/28/15 3:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:39:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/28/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers.


So do Lemmings.

Jim Webb is not without his flaws although I don't find them
particularly negative. He's serious, can exhibit a bit of a temper
and doesn't kowtow to anyone.

He's a Democrat but has an independent streak in him. He doesn't
necessarily follow the "party line" if it's something he doesn't
believe in.

I like that.


And that's probably why Harry doesn't like him.



I never said or even implied I didn't like Jim Webb. I don't think he
has much charisma, and I'm not impressed with him as a possible
candidate for POTUS. He seems a perfectly decent guy, though.

I wish you right-wingers would learn how to read and comprehend what you
read.

He's perfectly decent ... in a rather non-liberal way.

I'm not sure you righties even know what liberal and conservative mean
anymore.

On 7/28/2015 7:29 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/28/15 6:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/28/2015 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/28/15 3:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:39:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 7/28/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers.


So do Lemmings.

Jim Webb is not without his flaws although I don't find them
particularly negative. He's serious, can exhibit a bit of a temper
and doesn't kowtow to anyone.

He's a Democrat but has an independent streak in him. He doesn't
necessarily follow the "party line" if it's something he doesn't
believe in.

I like that.


And that's probably why Harry doesn't like him.



I never said or even implied I didn't like Jim Webb. I don't think he
has much charisma, and I'm not impressed with him as a possible
candidate for POTUS. He seems a perfectly decent guy, though.

I wish you right-wingers would learn how to read and comprehend what you
read.

He's perfectly decent ... in a rather non-liberal way.

I'm not sure you righties even know what liberal and conservative mean
anymore.




Thank you for your observation but the world does not revolve around
Harry Krause's interpretations or definitions. We are all entitled to
our own.

Besides, the terms (as used today) are moving goalposts. In today's
world JFK would be considered a conservative and Reagan would probably
be considered too liberal.