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On 7/28/15 8:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/28/2015 7:55 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/28/15 7:44 PM, wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:29:46 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/28/15 6:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 7/28/2015 5:38 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/28/15 3:54 PM, John H. wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:39:46 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 7/28/2015 10:05 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: As for Mrs. Clinton, she has tens of millions of dedicated followers. So do Lemmings. Jim Webb is not without his flaws although I don't find them particularly negative. He's serious, can exhibit a bit of a temper and doesn't kowtow to anyone. He's a Democrat but has an independent streak in him. He doesn't necessarily follow the "party line" if it's something he doesn't believe in. I like that. And that's probably why Harry doesn't like him. I never said or even implied I didn't like Jim Webb. I don't think he has much charisma, and I'm not impressed with him as a possible candidate for POTUS. He seems a perfectly decent guy, though. I wish you right-wingers would learn how to read and comprehend what you read. He's perfectly decent ... in a rather non-liberal way. I'm not sure you righties even know what liberal and conservative mean anymore. When Trump is calling himself conservative, you might be right. I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast Republicans of my youth, and Sanders slightly left of center. Virtually all the Republican wannabes for 2016 come across to me as right-wing extremists, pushed way out there by the Tea Party and others. Oh, and Jeb Bush is no moderate. He's an overly religious right-wing nut case. His saving grace is that so many of the other wannabes are nuttier than he is. Hillary *was* a moderate Democrat. She's trying to reinvent herself to maintain appeal to the "progressive-liberal" movement however. Unfortunately for her, her history of flip flops will become an issue when the real debates begin. I'll repeat what I said a few weeks ago. I am not necessarily against a Democrat winning the White House in 2016. I just have a severe aversion to the idea of Hillary becoming POTUS. So, you'll end up voting for The Donald, eh? ![]() |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/27/15 7:39 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 7/27/2015 7:05 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/27/15 7:03 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 7/27/2015 6:34 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/27/15 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 7/27/2015 6:21 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 13:45:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 7/27/2015 12:18 PM, Boating All Out wrote: Sure seems that way. I remember back in the '90's Limbaugh going after her viciously. First time I realized that insanity had gone mainstream. Turned Limbaugh off my radio forever. They'd have to get something solid on her before I'd believe it, because they've told so many outright lies about her she's been immunized in my eyes. I get a kick out of Luddite's "outrage" at her caginess. She's a politician, for crying out loud. They all lie. I get a kick out of you giving Hillary's lies and deceitfulness a pass "because she's a politician". Yeah, that is an excuse that didn't work for Nixon, Blagojevich, Rostenkowski, Ryan or Menendez. (and the list goes on) When they get anything that sticks on HRC, and she's in the slammer, let me know. If you guys are right, that's where she'll be. And if she stays free, you'll still be right. You'll simply say "She got away with it!" Hey, you can't lose. She's not headed for the slammer. I am just very hopeful that she's not headed for the White House. She's not even a good politician. No notable accomplishments to speak of. Bill is. Your Republican alternatives are far, far worse. "My" Republican alternatives? Shouldn't it be "Our" or "The"? Anyway, Hillary has no executive experience in running anything. When her husband asked her to form a task force and come up with a health care reform plan, she botched it so badly that even the Democrats didn't want to bring it to a vote. It was quickly swept under the rug, if you recall. Since then, what has she done? Nothing really. Lived a pampered life as First Lady, traveled all over the world as SOS accomplishing ... nothing. Heck, as Secretary of State, John Kerry makes her look like a rank amateur ... or worse. You seem to adhere yourself to whomever recites the party line and maintains a (D) after their name. I tend to look more at the person, his/her qualifications, achievements, contributions and experience. Hillary has none of those qualities so she has to make up stories and lie to appear relevant. She also has demonstrated extremely poor judgement on more than one occasion. Not POTUS material. Sorry. I see each and every Republican candidate who has a chance of winning the nomination as someone who will further destroy the middle and lower income groups, restrict womens' right, work against science, weaken pollution laws, weaken banking laws...everyone of them. Oh, please. Let's wait and see what the nomination cycle debates show. I'd like to hear more from Jim Webb. Even Bernie is entertaining in a way. Ha. Imagine a hypothetical. Hillary wins the Democratic nomination. The Donald, for some bizarre reason, wins the Republican. A presidential election debate between the two of them would set records for viewers, mostly looking for the entertainment aspect of it. Neither can control what comes out of their mouths. Jim Webb...who? (Yeah, I know who he is. He's a "who is he?" It's not what he's known for it's what he's *not* known for. Hillary is known to lie and be ineffective. |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast Republicans of my youth, Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind. Maryland is considered northeast? -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On 7/28/2015 9:37 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast Republicans of my youth, Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind. Maryland is considered northeast? From Greg's house it is. |
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On 7/28/2015 9:37 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast Republicans of my youth, Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind. Maryland is considered northeast? Sure. Relatively speaking. :-) -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On 7/28/2015 10:20 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/28/2015 9:37 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast Republicans of my youth, Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind. Maryland is considered northeast? From Greg's house it is. Everything is relative, at least by Harry's way of thinking. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:20:31 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: Hitler had it. FDR had it. Reagan had it. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton have it. === Bill did, no question about it. Hillary? Not so much. |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:30:05 -0400, Alex wrote:
Oh, please. Let's wait and see what the nomination cycle debates show. I'd like to hear more from Jim Webb. Even Bernie is entertaining in a way. Ha. Imagine a hypothetical. Hillary wins the Democratic nomination. The Donald, for some bizarre reason, wins the Republican. A presidential election debate between the two of them would set records for viewers, mostly looking for the entertainment aspect of it. Neither can control what comes out of their mouths. Jim Webb...who? (Yeah, I know who he is. He's a "who is he?" It's not what he's known for it's what he's *not* known for. Hillary is known to lie and be ineffective. === And that clearly defines the linkage between Harry and Hillary. |