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On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 20:30:05 -0400, Alex wrote:

Oh, please. Let's wait and see what the nomination cycle debates show.
I'd like to hear more from Jim Webb. Even Bernie is entertaining in a
way.

Ha. Imagine a hypothetical. Hillary wins the Democratic nomination.
The Donald, for some bizarre reason, wins the Republican.

A presidential election debate between the two of them would set records
for viewers, mostly looking for the entertainment aspect of it.

Neither can control what comes out of their mouths.




Jim Webb...who? (Yeah, I know who he is. He's a "who is he?"


It's not what he's known for it's what he's *not* known for. Hillary is
known to lie and be ineffective.


===

And that clearly defines the linkage between Harry and Hillary.


They paraphrased Mark 10:9 in their marriage vows

"What this slime hath joined together, let no house judiciary
committee put asunder" ;-)


Joined at the loins come hell or high water. Do you think Hillery had
presidential aspirations way back when Bill's pekker tracks were found
on Monika's blue dress? Mebbe he really didn't actually have real sex
with that woman. After all, he isn't known for "getting it done"

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"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."


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On 7/29/15 11:40 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 06:43:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 7/28/15 11:10 PM,
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On 29 Jul 2015 01:37:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast
Republicans of my youth,

Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind.

Maryland is considered northeast?

It didn't used to be but it is now. It is indistinguishable from New
Jersey until you get out on the Eastern shore or west of Frederick
(which was always more like Western Pennsylvania).



Spend less time in that raging florida sun and preserve what little of
your brain hasn't been fried.


You weren't there so you don't know but Maryland used to be a border
state mixing northern and southern cultures but so many New Englanders
had moved there by the 80s, trying to make it "more like we do up
north" that they did.

You guys succeeded, it is now just like Connecticut. Even my friend
from New Haven, moved here (Bradenton) because he said Maryland had
become just like the place he had left before.

Maryland used to be the "Free State". That is now an obsolete term.
There is not much freedom and nothing is free.


I wasn't there? I wasn't "there" for the signing of the Magna Carta,
either, but I am aware of its history and I am also aware of Maryland's
history.

I'm hoping you know that Maryland's nickname as the "free state" has to
do with several sorts of freedom, one of which predates the American
Civil War by a considerable number of years.

I haven't discovered any limitations on "freedom" in Maryland, and I've
lived here nearly 15 years.

Oh, and Maryland still has the highest median family income of any state
in the Union and ranks second in per capita income and Connecticut is
still in the top five in median income and is first in per capita
income. Florida ranks 37th in median income, a few notches above South
Carolina, and 28th in per capita income.

So, what does Florida have? Nice beaches, good fishing, lots of
rednecks, and the crookedest governor in America. I can't think of much
else.


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On 7/29/15 12:38 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:12:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/29/15 11:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 06:43:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/28/15 11:10 PM,
wrote:
On 29 Jul 2015 01:37:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast
Republicans of my youth,

Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind.

Maryland is considered northeast?

It didn't used to be but it is now. It is indistinguishable from New
Jersey until you get out on the Eastern shore or west of Frederick
(which was always more like Western Pennsylvania).



Spend less time in that raging florida sun and preserve what little of
your brain hasn't been fried.

You weren't there so you don't know but Maryland used to be a border
state mixing northern and southern cultures but so many New Englanders
had moved there by the 80s, trying to make it "more like we do up
north" that they did.

You guys succeeded, it is now just like Connecticut. Even my friend
from New Haven, moved here (Bradenton) because he said Maryland had
become just like the place he had left before.

Maryland used to be the "Free State". That is now an obsolete term.
There is not much freedom and nothing is free.


I wasn't there? I wasn't "there" for the signing of the Magna Carta,
either, but I am aware of its history and I am also aware of Maryland's
history.

I'm hoping you know that Maryland's nickname as the "free state" has to
do with several sorts of freedom, one of which predates the American
Civil War by a considerable number of years.

I haven't discovered any limitations on "freedom" in Maryland, and I've
lived here nearly 15 years.


You are comparing it to Connecticut, thanks for proving my point..


Oh, and Maryland still has the highest median family income of any state
in the Union and ranks second in per capita income and Connecticut is
still in the top five in median income and is first in per capita
income. Florida ranks 37th in median income, a few notches above South
Carolina, and 28th in per capita income.


That is simply a reflection of the amount of federal tax money that
oozes out into the DC suburbs. You take out the counties that are
considered a reasonable commute from DC and the counties with a large
federal presence and Maryland starts looking like Mississippi.

So, what does Florida have? Nice beaches, good fishing, lots of
rednecks, and the crookedest governor in America. I can't think of much
else.


Sounds good to me. Beats the hell out of Baltimore and PG county's
crime rate. You can get in the water in the summer without being stung
by sea nettles and this bay does not have your "dead zone" problem. I
have a natural estuary right next to me that is uniquely undeveloped
for the US and most of the rest of the world.
I will take it.
Coming from Connecticut, I assume you think Maryland is the unspoiled
frontier.

Scott has been OK for us. He hasn't stolen anything since he was
elected ;-)




Actually, the parts of Connecticut I love and remember and visit are
pretty much as they were when I was growing up there, in a suburb of New
Haven, and along the shoreline communities of Milford and Branford.
In fact, several of the beachfront cottages I recall in the Milford area
that were built 100 years ago have been beautifully maintained and
have sold in the last few years for a million and a half each...and
these are just cottages. Even the house my dad had built for us 50 years
ago is still in good shape, as is the neighborhood in which it is
situated. We did a drive-by a few years ago on the way to Providence.

We're pretty much Marylanders for the time being. My wife loves her job
in downtown DC and my handful of active accounts are in DC and
Baltimore. I don't have any issues with living in Maryland.

As I stated, Florida has nice beaches and good fishing...but from living
there for a few years, I can say, not much else. It's really backwards
politically outside of the SE area of the state and insanely religious
in the NE area of the state. Blech.

Oh, the topography and flora out Tallahassee way are interesting. I was
found of Tallahassee.




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On 7/29/15 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:01:36 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 7/29/15 12:38 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:12:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/29/15 11:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 06:43:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/28/15 11:10 PM,
wrote:
On 29 Jul 2015 01:37:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast
Republicans of my youth,

Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind.

Maryland is considered northeast?

It didn't used to be but it is now. It is indistinguishable from New
Jersey until you get out on the Eastern shore or west of Frederick
(which was always more like Western Pennsylvania).



Spend less time in that raging florida sun and preserve what little of
your brain hasn't been fried.

You weren't there so you don't know but Maryland used to be a border
state mixing northern and southern cultures but so many New Englanders
had moved there by the 80s, trying to make it "more like we do up
north" that they did.

You guys succeeded, it is now just like Connecticut. Even my friend
from New Haven, moved here (Bradenton) because he said Maryland had
become just like the place he had left before.

Maryland used to be the "Free State". That is now an obsolete term.
There is not much freedom and nothing is free.


I wasn't there? I wasn't "there" for the signing of the Magna Carta,
either, but I am aware of its history and I am also aware of Maryland's
history.

I'm hoping you know that Maryland's nickname as the "free state" has to
do with several sorts of freedom, one of which predates the American
Civil War by a considerable number of years.

I haven't discovered any limitations on "freedom" in Maryland, and I've
lived here nearly 15 years.

You are comparing it to Connecticut, thanks for proving my point..


Oh, and Maryland still has the highest median family income of any state
in the Union and ranks second in per capita income and Connecticut is
still in the top five in median income and is first in per capita
income. Florida ranks 37th in median income, a few notches above South
Carolina, and 28th in per capita income.


That is simply a reflection of the amount of federal tax money that
oozes out into the DC suburbs. You take out the counties that are
considered a reasonable commute from DC and the counties with a large
federal presence and Maryland starts looking like Mississippi.

So, what does Florida have? Nice beaches, good fishing, lots of
rednecks, and the crookedest governor in America. I can't think of much
else.


Sounds good to me. Beats the hell out of Baltimore and PG county's
crime rate. You can get in the water in the summer without being stung
by sea nettles and this bay does not have your "dead zone" problem. I
have a natural estuary right next to me that is uniquely undeveloped
for the US and most of the rest of the world.
I will take it.
Coming from Connecticut, I assume you think Maryland is the unspoiled
frontier.

Scott has been OK for us. He hasn't stolen anything since he was
elected ;-)




Actually, the parts of Connecticut I love and remember and visit are
pretty much as they were when I was growing up there, in a suburb of New
Haven, and along the shoreline communities of Milford and Branford.
In fact, several of the beachfront cottages I recall in the Milford area
that were built 100 years ago have been beautifully maintained and
have sold in the last few years for a million and a half each...and
these are just cottages. Even the house my dad had built for us 50 years
ago is still in good shape, as is the neighborhood in which it is
situated. We did a drive-by a few years ago on the way to Providence.

We're pretty much Marylanders for the time being. My wife loves her job
in downtown DC and my handful of active accounts are in DC and
Baltimore. I don't have any issues with living in Maryland.

As I stated, Florida has nice beaches and good fishing...but from living
there for a few years, I can say, not much else. It's really backwards
politically outside of the SE area of the state and insanely religious
in the NE area of the state. Blech.

Oh, the topography and flora out Tallahassee way are interesting. I was
found of Tallahassee.


It sounds like you really do not have much actual experience in
Florida. Anyone who thinks SE Florida is attractive, must be a New
York or NY suburb person.
I agree the redneck riviera is a religious stronghold but it is really
just Baja Alabama. My daughter went to college in Pensacola and they
lived in Mexico Beach/Cape San Blas after that. We spent a lot of time
up there.
I am surprised you don't like the Tampa Bay area. It is urban enough
for you and still very blue. You can have the beach, the bay or lake
side up north of Tampa if you have the money. There is also a lot of
"horsey" country north of Tampa if you want to go that way.
SW Florida is not like any of those places.
We have been discovered and the developers are ****ing the place up
but I am pretty much isolated from all of that, living next to the
aquatic preserve. I spend more time in my boat than I do in my car.



I didn't say SE Florida was attractive, I said, indirectly, that it
wasn't backwards. I like the melange of cultures there, and since my
wife and I are Spanish-speakers, though she is better at it than I am,
we enjoy the area a lot.

My wife's grandmother lived in the Tampa Bay area, and we visited her
many times while she was alive and we lived in Florida. She had a
backyard full of citrus trees and it was a real pleasure to walk out in
the morning and "pick" my orange juice. I like the beaches in that area,
too. But I thought the climate was just too damned hot for me, beginning
- ack - in April. In fact, our household rule was to avoid any part of
Florida from Daytona south from April 1st to October.

NE Florida has some beautiful uncrowded beaches and estuary by-ways. I
enjoyed boating and fishing there. Easy, easy fishing, impossible to
come home without dinner.
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:01:36 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 7/29/15 12:38 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:12:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/29/15 11:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 06:43:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/28/15 11:10 PM,
wrote:
On 29 Jul 2015 01:37:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast
Republicans of my youth,

Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind.

Maryland is considered northeast?

It didn't used to be but it is now. It is indistinguishable from New
Jersey until you get out on the Eastern shore or west of Frederick
(which was always more like Western Pennsylvania).



Spend less time in that raging florida sun and preserve what little of
your brain hasn't been fried.

You weren't there so you don't know but Maryland used to be a border
state mixing northern and southern cultures but so many New Englanders
had moved there by the 80s, trying to make it "more like we do up
north" that they did.

You guys succeeded, it is now just like Connecticut. Even my friend
from New Haven, moved here (Bradenton) because he said Maryland had
become just like the place he had left before.

Maryland used to be the "Free State". That is now an obsolete term.
There is not much freedom and nothing is free.


I wasn't there? I wasn't "there" for the signing of the Magna Carta,
either, but I am aware of its history and I am also aware of Maryland's
history.

I'm hoping you know that Maryland's nickname as the "free state" has to
do with several sorts of freedom, one of which predates the American
Civil War by a considerable number of years.

I haven't discovered any limitations on "freedom" in Maryland, and I've
lived here nearly 15 years.

You are comparing it to Connecticut, thanks for proving my point..


Oh, and Maryland still has the highest median family income of any state
in the Union and ranks second in per capita income and Connecticut is
still in the top five in median income and is first in per capita
income. Florida ranks 37th in median income, a few notches above South
Carolina, and 28th in per capita income.


That is simply a reflection of the amount of federal tax money that
oozes out into the DC suburbs. You take out the counties that are
considered a reasonable commute from DC and the counties with a large
federal presence and Maryland starts looking like Mississippi.

So, what does Florida have? Nice beaches, good fishing, lots of
rednecks, and the crookedest governor in America. I can't think of much
else.


Sounds good to me. Beats the hell out of Baltimore and PG county's
crime rate. You can get in the water in the summer without being stung
by sea nettles and this bay does not have your "dead zone" problem. I
have a natural estuary right next to me that is uniquely undeveloped
for the US and most of the rest of the world.
I will take it.
Coming from Connecticut, I assume you think Maryland is the unspoiled
frontier.

Scott has been OK for us. He hasn't stolen anything since he was
elected ;-)




Actually, the parts of Connecticut I love and remember and visit are
pretty much as they were when I was growing up there, in a suburb of New
Haven, and along the shoreline communities of Milford and Branford.
In fact, several of the beachfront cottages I recall in the Milford area
that were built 100 years ago have been beautifully maintained and
have sold in the last few years for a million and a half each...and
these are just cottages. Even the house my dad had built for us 50 years
ago is still in good shape, as is the neighborhood in which it is
situated. We did a drive-by a few years ago on the way to Providence.

We're pretty much Marylanders for the time being. My wife loves her job
in downtown DC and my handful of active accounts are in DC and
Baltimore. I don't have any issues with living in Maryland.

As I stated, Florida has nice beaches and good fishing...but from living
there for a few years, I can say, not much else. It's really backwards
politically outside of the SE area of the state and insanely religious
in the NE area of the state. Blech.

Oh, the topography and flora out Tallahassee way are interesting. I was
found of Tallahassee.


It sounds like you really do not have much actual experience in
Florida. Anyone who thinks SE Florida is attractive, must be a New
York or NY suburb person.
I agree the redneck riviera is a religious stronghold but it is really
just Baja Alabama. My daughter went to college in Pensacola and they
lived in Mexico Beach/Cape San Blas after that. We spent a lot of time
up there.
I am surprised you don't like the Tampa Bay area. It is urban enough
for you and still very blue. You can have the beach, the bay or lake
side up north of Tampa if you have the money. There is also a lot of
"horsey" country north of Tampa if you want to go that way.
SW Florida is not like any of those places.
We have been discovered and the developers are ****ing the place up
but I am pretty much isolated from all of that, living next to the
aquatic preserve. I spend more time in my boat than I do in my car.



We lived (winters only) in Jupiter, FL for three years. The coastal
areas were over-developed and busy but we didn't find it to be too bad.
Good restaurants and things to do. Our place was inland a bit, away
from all the traffic and congestion. There were areas further inland
that I used to go for motorcycle rides that were pretty much isolated
from any construction or even traffic.

I remember when we first started thinking about buying down there
(wife's idea .. I wanted to just live on the boat) some of our friends
up north warned us about hurricanes, so I did a little research. Turns
out the Jupiter, FL area had not had a direct hit for 100 years. I
realized that Florida is a big state and the chances of a direct hit in
any particular area is remote.

So, we bought. Actually, we bought two places within the same gated
community. In 14 months we were clobbered with three hurricanes, all
either direct hits or close enough to cause a lot of damage.


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On 7/29/15 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/29/2015 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:01:36 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/29/15 12:38 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:12:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/29/15 11:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 06:43:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/28/15 11:10 PM,
wrote:
On 29 Jul 2015 01:37:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the
northeast
Republicans of my youth,

Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind.

Maryland is considered northeast?

It didn't used to be but it is now. It is indistinguishable from
New
Jersey until you get out on the Eastern shore or west of Frederick
(which was always more like Western Pennsylvania).



Spend less time in that raging florida sun and preserve what
little of
your brain hasn't been fried.

You weren't there so you don't know but Maryland used to be a border
state mixing northern and southern cultures but so many New
Englanders
had moved there by the 80s, trying to make it "more like we do up
north" that they did.

You guys succeeded, it is now just like Connecticut. Even my friend
from New Haven, moved here (Bradenton) because he said Maryland had
become just like the place he had left before.

Maryland used to be the "Free State". That is now an obsolete term.
There is not much freedom and nothing is free.


I wasn't there? I wasn't "there" for the signing of the Magna Carta,
either, but I am aware of its history and I am also aware of
Maryland's
history.

I'm hoping you know that Maryland's nickname as the "free state"
has to
do with several sorts of freedom, one of which predates the American
Civil War by a considerable number of years.

I haven't discovered any limitations on "freedom" in Maryland, and
I've
lived here nearly 15 years.

You are comparing it to Connecticut, thanks for proving my point..


Oh, and Maryland still has the highest median family income of any
state
in the Union and ranks second in per capita income and Connecticut is
still in the top five in median income and is first in per capita
income. Florida ranks 37th in median income, a few notches above South
Carolina, and 28th in per capita income.


That is simply a reflection of the amount of federal tax money that
oozes out into the DC suburbs. You take out the counties that are
considered a reasonable commute from DC and the counties with a large
federal presence and Maryland starts looking like Mississippi.

So, what does Florida have? Nice beaches, good fishing, lots of
rednecks, and the crookedest governor in America. I can't think of
much
else.


Sounds good to me. Beats the hell out of Baltimore and PG county's
crime rate. You can get in the water in the summer without being stung
by sea nettles and this bay does not have your "dead zone" problem. I
have a natural estuary right next to me that is uniquely undeveloped
for the US and most of the rest of the world.
I will take it.
Coming from Connecticut, I assume you think Maryland is the unspoiled
frontier.

Scott has been OK for us. He hasn't stolen anything since he was
elected ;-)




Actually, the parts of Connecticut I love and remember and visit are
pretty much as they were when I was growing up there, in a suburb of New
Haven, and along the shoreline communities of Milford and Branford.
In fact, several of the beachfront cottages I recall in the Milford area
that were built 100 years ago have been beautifully maintained and
have sold in the last few years for a million and a half each...and
these are just cottages. Even the house my dad had built for us 50 years
ago is still in good shape, as is the neighborhood in which it is
situated. We did a drive-by a few years ago on the way to Providence.

We're pretty much Marylanders for the time being. My wife loves her job
in downtown DC and my handful of active accounts are in DC and
Baltimore. I don't have any issues with living in Maryland.

As I stated, Florida has nice beaches and good fishing...but from living
there for a few years, I can say, not much else. It's really backwards
politically outside of the SE area of the state and insanely religious
in the NE area of the state. Blech.

Oh, the topography and flora out Tallahassee way are interesting. I was
found of Tallahassee.


It sounds like you really do not have much actual experience in
Florida. Anyone who thinks SE Florida is attractive, must be a New
York or NY suburb person.
I agree the redneck riviera is a religious stronghold but it is really
just Baja Alabama. My daughter went to college in Pensacola and they
lived in Mexico Beach/Cape San Blas after that. We spent a lot of time
up there.
I am surprised you don't like the Tampa Bay area. It is urban enough
for you and still very blue. You can have the beach, the bay or lake
side up north of Tampa if you have the money. There is also a lot of
"horsey" country north of Tampa if you want to go that way.
SW Florida is not like any of those places.
We have been discovered and the developers are ****ing the place up
but I am pretty much isolated from all of that, living next to the
aquatic preserve. I spend more time in my boat than I do in my car.



We lived (winters only) in Jupiter, FL for three years. The coastal
areas were over-developed and busy but we didn't find it to be too bad.
Good restaurants and things to do. Our place was inland a bit, away
from all the traffic and congestion. There were areas further inland
that I used to go for motorcycle rides that were pretty much isolated
from any construction or even traffic.

I remember when we first started thinking about buying down there
(wife's idea .. I wanted to just live on the boat) some of our friends
up north warned us about hurricanes, so I did a little research. Turns
out the Jupiter, FL area had not had a direct hit for 100 years. I
realized that Florida is a big state and the chances of a direct hit in
any particular area is remote.

So, we bought. Actually, we bought two places within the same gated
community. In 14 months we were clobbered with three hurricanes, all
either direct hits or close enough to cause a lot of damage.



In the good old days...the 1950s...the Connecticut shoreline seemed to
get clobbered at least twice a summer by hurricanes.
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On 7/29/15 11:40 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 06:43:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/28/15 11:10 PM,
wrote:
On 29 Jul 2015 01:37:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the northeast
Republicans of my youth,

Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind.

Maryland is considered northeast?

It didn't used to be but it is now. It is indistinguishable from New
Jersey until you get out on the Eastern shore or west of Frederick
(which was always more like Western Pennsylvania).



Spend less time in that raging florida sun and preserve what little of
your brain hasn't been fried.


You weren't there so you don't know but Maryland used to be a border
state mixing northern and southern cultures but so many New Englanders
had moved there by the 80s, trying to make it "more like we do up
north" that they did.

You guys succeeded, it is now just like Connecticut. Even my friend
from New Haven, moved here (Bradenton) because he said Maryland had
become just like the place he had left before.

Maryland used to be the "Free State". That is now an obsolete term.
There is not much freedom and nothing is free.


I wasn't there? I wasn't "there" for the signing of the Magna Carta,
either, but I am aware of its history and I am also aware of Maryland's
history.

I'm hoping you know that Maryland's nickname as the "free state" has to
do with several sorts of freedom, one of which predates the American
Civil War by a considerable number of years.

I haven't discovered any limitations on "freedom" in Maryland, and I've
lived here nearly 15 years.

Oh, and Maryland still has the highest median family income of any state
in the Union and ranks second in per capita income and Connecticut is
still in the top five in median income and is first in per capita
income. Florida ranks 37th in median income, a few notches above South
Carolina, and 28th in per capita income.


Only 5 or 6 states have a higher tax load than MD. The income numbers are boosted by MD's proximity to DC. I've seen western MD. And you have the ******** called Baltimore. My SIL lived in Bel Aire MD for a couple of years. Transferred out of there as fast as she could.
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On 7/29/2015 2:44 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/29/15 2:29 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 7/29/2015 1:32 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:01:36 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 7/29/15 12:38 PM,
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:12:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/29/15 11:40 AM,
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 06:43:01 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/28/15 11:10 PM,
wrote:
On 29 Jul 2015 01:37:27 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:55:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

I see Hillary as a moderate, not much different than the
northeast
Republicans of my youth,

Yup, Spiro Agnew springs to mind.

Maryland is considered northeast?

It didn't used to be but it is now. It is indistinguishable from
New
Jersey until you get out on the Eastern shore or west of Frederick
(which was always more like Western Pennsylvania).



Spend less time in that raging florida sun and preserve what
little of
your brain hasn't been fried.

You weren't there so you don't know but Maryland used to be a border
state mixing northern and southern cultures but so many New
Englanders
had moved there by the 80s, trying to make it "more like we do up
north" that they did.

You guys succeeded, it is now just like Connecticut. Even my friend
from New Haven, moved here (Bradenton) because he said Maryland had
become just like the place he had left before.

Maryland used to be the "Free State". That is now an obsolete term.
There is not much freedom and nothing is free.


I wasn't there? I wasn't "there" for the signing of the Magna Carta,
either, but I am aware of its history and I am also aware of
Maryland's
history.

I'm hoping you know that Maryland's nickname as the "free state"
has to
do with several sorts of freedom, one of which predates the American
Civil War by a considerable number of years.

I haven't discovered any limitations on "freedom" in Maryland, and
I've
lived here nearly 15 years.

You are comparing it to Connecticut, thanks for proving my point..


Oh, and Maryland still has the highest median family income of any
state
in the Union and ranks second in per capita income and Connecticut is
still in the top five in median income and is first in per capita
income. Florida ranks 37th in median income, a few notches above
South
Carolina, and 28th in per capita income.


That is simply a reflection of the amount of federal tax money that
oozes out into the DC suburbs. You take out the counties that are
considered a reasonable commute from DC and the counties with a large
federal presence and Maryland starts looking like Mississippi.

So, what does Florida have? Nice beaches, good fishing, lots of
rednecks, and the crookedest governor in America. I can't think of
much
else.


Sounds good to me. Beats the hell out of Baltimore and PG county's
crime rate. You can get in the water in the summer without being stung
by sea nettles and this bay does not have your "dead zone" problem. I
have a natural estuary right next to me that is uniquely undeveloped
for the US and most of the rest of the world.
I will take it.
Coming from Connecticut, I assume you think Maryland is the unspoiled
frontier.

Scott has been OK for us. He hasn't stolen anything since he was
elected ;-)




Actually, the parts of Connecticut I love and remember and visit are
pretty much as they were when I was growing up there, in a suburb of
New
Haven, and along the shoreline communities of Milford and Branford.
In fact, several of the beachfront cottages I recall in the Milford
area
that were built 100 years ago have been beautifully maintained and
have sold in the last few years for a million and a half each...and
these are just cottages. Even the house my dad had built for us 50
years
ago is still in good shape, as is the neighborhood in which it is
situated. We did a drive-by a few years ago on the way to Providence.

We're pretty much Marylanders for the time being. My wife loves her job
in downtown DC and my handful of active accounts are in DC and
Baltimore. I don't have any issues with living in Maryland.

As I stated, Florida has nice beaches and good fishing...but from
living
there for a few years, I can say, not much else. It's really backwards
politically outside of the SE area of the state and insanely religious
in the NE area of the state. Blech.

Oh, the topography and flora out Tallahassee way are interesting. I was
found of Tallahassee.


It sounds like you really do not have much actual experience in
Florida. Anyone who thinks SE Florida is attractive, must be a New
York or NY suburb person.
I agree the redneck riviera is a religious stronghold but it is really
just Baja Alabama. My daughter went to college in Pensacola and they
lived in Mexico Beach/Cape San Blas after that. We spent a lot of time
up there.
I am surprised you don't like the Tampa Bay area. It is urban enough
for you and still very blue. You can have the beach, the bay or lake
side up north of Tampa if you have the money. There is also a lot of
"horsey" country north of Tampa if you want to go that way.
SW Florida is not like any of those places.
We have been discovered and the developers are ****ing the place up
but I am pretty much isolated from all of that, living next to the
aquatic preserve. I spend more time in my boat than I do in my car.



We lived (winters only) in Jupiter, FL for three years. The coastal
areas were over-developed and busy but we didn't find it to be too bad.
Good restaurants and things to do. Our place was inland a bit, away
from all the traffic and congestion. There were areas further inland
that I used to go for motorcycle rides that were pretty much isolated
from any construction or even traffic.

I remember when we first started thinking about buying down there
(wife's idea .. I wanted to just live on the boat) some of our friends
up north warned us about hurricanes, so I did a little research. Turns
out the Jupiter, FL area had not had a direct hit for 100 years. I
realized that Florida is a big state and the chances of a direct hit in
any particular area is remote.

So, we bought. Actually, we bought two places within the same gated
community. In 14 months we were clobbered with three hurricanes, all
either direct hits or close enough to cause a lot of damage.



In the good old days...the 1950s...the Connecticut shoreline seemed to
get clobbered at least twice a summer by hurricanes.



Yabut, as I learned in Florida, the hurricanes we get up here, with rare
exceptions, are not like the hurricanes in Florida. Wilma scared the
crap out of me.


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