....the satirical on-line pub, The Onion, runs the following piece in its
entirety, changing only the dateline and the number of killed and
injured, because the story is always the same:



ROSEBURG, OR—In the hours following a violent rampage in (southwestern
Oregon) in which a lone attacker killed (nine individuals and seriously
injured seven others), citizens living in the only country where this
kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that
there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a
terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s
nothing anyone can do to stop them,� said Ohio resident Lindsay Bennett,
echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who
reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass
shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20
times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed
nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything
that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of
people if that’s what he really wanted.� At press time, residents of the
only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass
shootings have occurred every month for the past six years were
referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.�

- - -

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"

On 10/4/2015 9:17 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
....the satirical on-line pub, The Onion, runs the following piece in
its entirety, changing only the dateline and the number of killed and
injured, because the story is always the same:



ROSEBURG, OR—In the hours following a violent rampage in (southwestern
Oregon) in which a lone attacker killed (nine individuals and seriously
injured seven others), citizens living in the only country where this
kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that
there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a
terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s
nothing anyone can do to stop them,� said Ohio resident Lindsay Bennett,
echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who
reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass
shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20
times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed
nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything
that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of
people if that’s what he really wanted.� At press time, residents of the
only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass
shootings have occurred every month for the past six years were
referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.�

- - -

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"


The Onion, Huffington Post, You sure have a crazy reading list.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:17:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

...the satirical on-line pub, The Onion, runs the following piece in its
entirety, changing only the dateline and the number of killed and
injured, because the story is always the same:



ROSEBURG, OR—In the hours following a violent rampage in (southwestern
Oregon) in which a lone attacker killed (nine individuals and seriously
injured seven others), citizens living in the only country where this
kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that
there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a
terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s
nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Ohio resident Lindsay Bennett,
echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who
reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass
shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20
times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed
nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything
that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of
people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the
only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass
shootings have occurred every month for the past six years were
referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

- - -

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"


Very stupid. Everyone knows that the passage of a lot more laws would stop the
problem. Just look at Chicago! Very stringent laws have almost completely stopped the
shooting deaths there. Remarkable.

What we need is one law that says, "It is unlawful for any individual in the United
States to possess a personal firearm."

Require all firearms be turned in to the government.

Do you think that would reduce the killings in this country?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:17:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

...the satirical on-line pub, The Onion, runs the following piece in its
entirety, changing only the dateline and the number of killed and
injured, because the story is always the same:



ROSEBURG, OR—In the hours following a violent rampage in (southwestern
Oregon) in which a lone attacker killed (nine individuals and seriously
injured seven others), citizens living in the only country where this
kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that
there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a
terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s
nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Ohio resident Lindsay Bennett,
echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who
reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass
shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20
times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed
nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything
that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of
people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the
only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass
shootings have occurred every month for the past six years were
referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

- - -

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"


And...what would you do, sweetheart?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 10/4/2015 10:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:17:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

...the satirical on-line pub, The Onion, runs the following piece in its
entirety, changing only the dateline and the number of killed and
injured, because the story is always the same:



ROSEBURG, OR—In the hours following a violent rampage in (southwestern
Oregon) in which a lone attacker killed (nine individuals and seriously
injured seven others), citizens living in the only country where this
kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that
there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a
terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s
nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Ohio resident Lindsay Bennett,
echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who
reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass
shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20
times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed
nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything
that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of
people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the
only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass
shootings have occurred every month for the past six years were
referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

- - -

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"


Very stupid. Everyone knows that the passage of a lot more laws would stop the
problem. Just look at Chicago! Very stringent laws have almost completely stopped the
shooting deaths there. Remarkable.

What we need is one law that says, "It is unlawful for any individual in the United
States to possess a personal firearm."

Require all firearms be turned in to the government.


Do you think that would reduce the killings in this country?


Yup...

.... and that's where we are heading unless the hard core 2nd Ammendment
clingers don't open their eyes and minds and become willing to discuss
and consider gun control laws that fit contemporary times. To continue
to say "nothing will work" and be satisfied with the status quo is
eventually going to force the issue.

On 10/4/15 10:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:17:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

...the satirical on-line pub, The Onion, runs the following piece in its
entirety, changing only the dateline and the number of killed and
injured, because the story is always the same:



ROSEBURG, OR—In the hours following a violent rampage in (southwestern
Oregon) in which a lone attacker killed (nine individuals and seriously
injured seven others), citizens living in the only country where this
kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that
there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a
terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s
nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Ohio resident Lindsay Bennett,
echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who
reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass
shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20
times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed
nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything
that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of
people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the
only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass
shootings have occurred every month for the past six years were
referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

- - -

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"


Very stupid. Everyone knows that the passage of a lot more laws would stop the
problem. Just look at Chicago! Very stringent laws have almost completely stopped the
shooting deaths there. Remarkable.

What we need is one law that says, "It is unlawful for any individual in the United
States to possess a personal firearm."

Require all firearms be turned in to the government.

Do you think that would reduce the killings in this country?
--

It sure as hell would, and also the number of massacres. Maybe we need
to rename "Gun Control" Massacre Control.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:59:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/4/2015 10:31 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:17:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

...the satirical on-line pub, The Onion, runs the following piece in its
entirety, changing only the dateline and the number of killed and
injured, because the story is always the same:



ROSEBURG, OR—In the hours following a violent rampage in (southwestern
Oregon) in which a lone attacker killed (nine individuals and seriously
injured seven others), citizens living in the only country where this
kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Thursday that
there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a
terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s
nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said Ohio resident Lindsay Bennett,
echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who
reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass
shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20
times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed
nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything
that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of
people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the
only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass
shootings have occurred every month for the past six years were
referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”

- - -

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"


Very stupid. Everyone knows that the passage of a lot more laws would stop the
problem. Just look at Chicago! Very stringent laws have almost completely stopped the
shooting deaths there. Remarkable.

What we need is one law that says, "It is unlawful for any individual in the United
States to possess a personal firearm."

Require all firearms be turned in to the government.


Do you think that would reduce the killings in this country?


Yup...

... and that's where we are heading unless the hard core 2nd Ammendment
clingers don't open their eyes and minds and become willing to discuss
and consider gun control laws that fit contemporary times. To continue
to say "nothing will work" and be satisfied with the status quo is
eventually going to force the issue.

The lawbreakers would keep their guns, and commit violent acts with them just as they
do now.

Again, the laws passed have no effect unless enforced. No one here has said, "Nothing
will work." You and Harry are the ones making that spin.

I'm surprised you don't push for more enforcement...especially of federal laws. Would
a requirement for permits and/or licenses reduce the gun violence in downtown
Chicago?

Oh, wait...they're already required.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 10/4/2015 11:38 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:59:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Require all firearms be turned in to the government.


Do you think that would reduce the killings in this country?


Yup...

... and that's where we are heading unless the hard core 2nd Ammendment
clingers don't open their eyes and minds and become willing to discuss
and consider gun control laws that fit contemporary times. To continue
to say "nothing will work" and be satisfied with the status quo is
eventually going to force the issue.

===

A classic case of the cure being worse than the disease. Once more, I
don't believe you can solve a social problem with the legal system. It
didn't work with prohibition, and it's not working with the war on
drugs. I won't go into detail here but there are lots of other ways
to commit mass mayhem without using guns at all. Look no further than
the Boston Marathon.


Ban pressure cookers and knapsaks.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:59:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Require all firearms be turned in to the government.


Do you think that would reduce the killings in this country?


Yup...

... and that's where we are heading unless the hard core 2nd Ammendment
clingers don't open their eyes and minds and become willing to discuss
and consider gun control laws that fit contemporary times. To continue
to say "nothing will work" and be satisfied with the status quo is
eventually going to force the issue.

===

A classic case of the cure being worse than the disease. Once more, I
don't believe you can solve a social problem with the legal system. It
didn't work with prohibition, and it's not working with the war on
drugs. I won't go into detail here but there are lots of other ways
to commit mass mayhem without using guns at all. Look no further than
the Boston Marathon.

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 10:17:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

It's the Fretwell-Herring-W'hine-FlaTrash response, immortalized by the
Onion. "We can't do nuttin' about this, honey!"

I put my opinion about this and it was lost in the noise.

We should be teaching everyone to FIGHT BACK.
If everyone in that room scattered and immediately started throwing
everything they could pick up, at the shooter, he would be too busy
ducking to shoot and they could take him down.

There is no down side. The ONLY way he can kill them all is if they
stand there patiently and wait their turn.

Example?

Airline hijacking. We have not really had one since the passengers
figured out they can fight back. If they had have acted sooner, they
would have saved the plane in Pennsylvania
The leaky TSA process really has little to do with it. (97% failure
rate on their own test)
The fact that the hijacker will be beat to a bloody pulp does.
These days if someone just gets a little frisky, passengers take him
down.

The reason is the same, this is not a robbery where giving up some
money will save you. You have to understand the guy is there to kill
you and the only chance you have is to be a hard target.