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On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 13:15:23 -0500, John H.
wrote: Lack of interest in golf, RV'ing, other peoples' grandkids, spicy recipes, rec.boats posts from 1998 about defunct boat companies, et cetera. But posts about your generator, your deck, your guns, your cats, your critters, your owls, your cameras, etc. are OK, eh? === As long as it's all about him, the topic is very much OK. |
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On 11/2/2015 9:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. By William Saletan Half an hour into Wednesday’s Republican presidential debate, Sen. Ted Cruz exploded at the CNBC moderators. “The questions that have been asked so far in this debate illustrate why the American people don’t trust the media,” Cruz fumed. “You look at the questions: ‘Donald Trump, are you a comic-book villain?’ ‘Ben Carson, can you do math?’ ‘John Kasich, will you insult two people over here?’ ‘Marco Rubio, why don't you resign?’ ‘Jeb Bush, why have your numbers fallen?’ How about talking about the substantive issues the people care about?” By the end of the evening, Cruz, Carson, Trump, Rubio, and several other candidates had declared war on the press. They claimed to speak for the Republican Party, the American people, and the truth. These candidates are deluded. Many of their statements were falsified on the spot. Others were exposed as absurd by their opponents. It’s true that the debate exposed a division within the country. But the division isn’t between the press and the public. It’s between people who listen to evidence—reporters, policy analysts, and many Democrats and Republicans—and an impervious, defiant wing of the GOP. Take Cruz’s speech. It doesn’t even match the debate transcript. To begin with, nobody called Trump a villain. CNBC’s John Harwood asked Trump how he would fulfill his promises to “build a wall and make another country pay for it” (Mexico), “send 11 million people out of the country” (undocumented immigrants), and “cut taxes $10 trillion without increasing the deficit.” Second, nobody asked Carson whether he could do math. CNBC’s Becky Quick asked Carson how he would close the $1 trillion gap between current federal spending and the revenue projected from Carson’s 15 percent flat tax. Third, nobody asked Kasich to insult his colleagues. Kasich volunteered that Trump’s and Carson’s promises were impractical and incoherent. All of these questions were substantive. In fact, Cruz’s speech was a diversion from the query that had been posed to him—namely, why did he oppose this week’s agreement to raise the debt limit? Presented with facts and figures that didn’t fit their story, the leading Republican candidates accused the moderators of malice and deceit. As the evening wore on, it became increasingly obvious that Trump, Carson, and their allies onstage didn’t just have a problem with the press. They had problems with fellow Republicans. Harwood brought up Ben Bernanke, the former Federal Reserve chairman who recently declared that the GOP, hijacked by the “know-nothingism of the far right,” had forfeited Bernanke’s allegiance. Sen. Rand Paul dismissed Bernanke’s criticism as “arrogance” and said it showed why the Fed should be audited. Paul, one-upping Cruz and Rubio—who had already celebrated the resignation of House Speaker John Boehner—spurned Boehner’s likely replacement, Paul Ryan, as “more of the same.” For much, much mo http://tinyurl.com/ozxmvax That's enough already. Besides what difference does it make? |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:15:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. It is true that CNBC, which is supposed to be a business channel, did not ask that many economic questions. It is also true that none of these press conferences can be called debates because there is very little actual interchange between the candidates. I asked before and didn't really get an answer from you. Are the democrats going to let Fox moderate one of their debates? Your brain fart was along the lines of "if the GOP can't deal with NBC, how will they deal with Putin". I could say the same thing about the Democrats and Mygan Kelly or Hannity |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:20:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/2/15 11:15 AM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:15:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. It is true that CNBC, which is supposed to be a business channel, did not ask that many economic questions. It is also true that none of these press conferences can be called debates because there is very little actual interchange between the candidates. I asked before and didn't really get an answer from you. Are the democrats going to let Fox moderate one of their debates? Your brain fart was along the lines of "if the GOP can't deal with NBC, how will they deal with Putin". I could say the same thing about the Democrats and Mygan Kelly or Hannity Why should the Dems bother with Fox or its audience? There's nothing to gain. So you admit these debate "moderators" are biased? |
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On 11/2/15 12:06 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:20:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/2/15 11:15 AM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:15:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. It is true that CNBC, which is supposed to be a business channel, did not ask that many economic questions. It is also true that none of these press conferences can be called debates because there is very little actual interchange between the candidates. I asked before and didn't really get an answer from you. Are the democrats going to let Fox moderate one of their debates? Your brain fart was along the lines of "if the GOP can't deal with NBC, how will they deal with Putin". I could say the same thing about the Democrats and Mygan Kelly or Hannity Why should the Dems bother with Fox or its audience? There's nothing to gain. So you admit these debate "moderators" are biased? Uh, no. My response was clear. The Dem wannabe's do not need Fox or its audience to be nominated or elected. There is nothing to be gained by the Dems "debating" on Fox, so why waste the time? The Repugnants, apparently, think they need exposure to networks other than Fox. I don't know why. Their ship of fools seems intent on sinking itself. I can't wait for Rubio to be questioned closely about his fairy tale life. That'll leave who, Cruz? Delicious. |
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#8
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 12:14:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/2/15 12:06 PM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:20:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/2/15 11:15 AM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:15:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. It is true that CNBC, which is supposed to be a business channel, did not ask that many economic questions. It is also true that none of these press conferences can be called debates because there is very little actual interchange between the candidates. I asked before and didn't really get an answer from you. Are the democrats going to let Fox moderate one of their debates? Your brain fart was along the lines of "if the GOP can't deal with NBC, how will they deal with Putin". I could say the same thing about the Democrats and Mygan Kelly or Hannity Why should the Dems bother with Fox or its audience? There's nothing to gain. So you admit these debate "moderators" are biased? Uh, no. My response was clear. The Dem wannabe's do not need Fox or its audience to be nominated or elected. There is nothing to be gained by the Dems "debating" on Fox, so why waste the time? The Repugnants, apparently, think they need exposure to networks other than Fox. I don't know why. Their ship of fools seems intent on sinking itself. I can't wait for Rubio to be questioned closely about his fairy tale life. That'll leave who, Cruz? Delicious. Just the fact that you admit networks can be biased makes my point. We really need the fairness doctrine back. You would change your mind if the Kochs decided to buy NBC and Time Warner. |
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On 11/2/2015 12:06 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 11:20:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/2/15 11:15 AM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:15:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. It is true that CNBC, which is supposed to be a business channel, did not ask that many economic questions. It is also true that none of these press conferences can be called debates because there is very little actual interchange between the candidates. I asked before and didn't really get an answer from you. Are the democrats going to let Fox moderate one of their debates? Your brain fart was along the lines of "if the GOP can't deal with NBC, how will they deal with Putin". I could say the same thing about the Democrats and Mygan Kelly or Hannity Why should the Dems bother with Fox or its audience? There's nothing to gain. So you admit these debate "moderators" are biased? There was a long lasting discussion about the media on "Morning Joe" this morning. Joe pointed out that other than Fox, the majority, if not all, of both cable TV and broadcast network TV talk shows are hosted by people of the liberal persuasion. The result is it's almost impossible to select a debate moderator who can truly claim to be non-partisan. I think the debates thus far, especially the CNBC one, clearly demonstrates that. Here's another quick example of news manipulation by the liberal media: Chris Christie was called out the other day for yapping away on his cell phone in the "quiet car" of the train. Virtually all the media outlets made hay with this insinuating that he is nothing but a big mouthed, arrogant bully type. Turns out, the reported accounts weren't exactly accurate. Christie boarded late, didn't realize he was in the "quiet car" and, when it was brought to his attention, he quickly left the car. He was polite and apologetic of his mistake. |
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#10
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On 11/2/2015 11:20 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/2/15 11:15 AM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:15:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: Reality Sucks Leading GOP candidates aren’t at war with the press. They just have a problem with the truth. It is true that CNBC, which is supposed to be a business channel, did not ask that many economic questions. It is also true that none of these press conferences can be called debates because there is very little actual interchange between the candidates. I asked before and didn't really get an answer from you. Are the democrats going to let Fox moderate one of their debates? Your brain fart was along the lines of "if the GOP can't deal with NBC, how will they deal with Putin". I could say the same thing about the Democrats and Mygan Kelly or Hannity Why should the Dems bother with Fox or its audience? There's nothing to gain. Rachael Maddow is going to host a Democrat only candidate "forum" on her show. This should really be interesting. |
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