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On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 16:18:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 12:25:52 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 11/7/15 11:51 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 09:28:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


In his defense, it was 50 years ago. But still, if it was General
Westmoreland who personally offered the "scholarship" as described in
Carson's book, you would think he'd remember it. Instead, he now refers
to a "group" of people and can't remember who they were.


My guess is he was addressing a group of gifted people of color,
saying "you too can go to West Point" and Carson remembers it a bit
more fondly than it may have actually been. The academies are for
people looking at a career in the military so I can see how it would
be easy to blow it off if you did not want to go that way. I doubt
Harry would take that seriously either but 50 years later he might
remember that it was an option.

I was mildly interested in attending the Coast Guard Academy during my
junior year of high school, but the interest "passed." No political
string-pulling was necessary.


Necessary for what...the 'passing' of your interest?

Do you think there is no political string-pulling in getting an appointment to the
Navy, Air Force, or Army academies?
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No, **** for brains. Back then and maybe still appointment to the Coast
Guard academy was strictly on merit. Political nominations were not part of
the process.

W


We're not talking about the Coast Guard Academy. One must be nominated to attend USMA
*after* all the 'merit' requirements are met.
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On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using
sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that
he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point.
Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he
had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd alternate for
my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I
would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail somehow
to have got the appointment.



The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland
being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened.
In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a
"scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't
remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship.


I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would major in a
'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the scholarship. I
didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17 at the time.

Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year old whiz kid
ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he could get him an
appointment at the academy.


Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give
him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the
fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from.



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On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or
using
sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely
that
he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point.
Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted.
Perhaps he
had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then
Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time
that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine
Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in
fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military
(at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA.
As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of
the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board
at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ
happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had
asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was
shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about
the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers
that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they
are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd
alternate for
my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I
would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail
somehow
to have got the appointment.



The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland
being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened.
In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a
"scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't
remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship.


I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would
major in a
'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the
scholarship. I
didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17
at the time.

Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year
old whiz kid
ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he
could get him an
appointment at the academy.


Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give
him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the
fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from.




heh. "chock"
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2015 16:55:31 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or
using
sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely
that
he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point.
Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted.
Perhaps he
had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then
Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time
that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine
Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in
fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military
(at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA.
As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of
the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board
at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ
happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had
asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was
shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about
the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers
that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they
are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd
alternate for
my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his appointments. I
would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail
somehow
to have got the appointment.



The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland
being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened.
In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a
"scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't
remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship.

I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would
major in a
'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the
scholarship. I
didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17
at the time.

Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year
old whiz kid
ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he
could get him an
appointment at the academy.


Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give
him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the
fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from.




heh. "chock"


Oh, I just thought that was northeast slang.
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On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or
using
sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely
that
he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point.
Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted.
Perhaps he
had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then
Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time
that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine
Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in
fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military
(at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA.
As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of
the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board
at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ
happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had
asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was
shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about
the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers
that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they
are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd
alternate for
my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his
appointments. I
would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail
somehow
to have got the appointment.



The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland
being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened.
In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a
"scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't
remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship.

I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would
major in a
'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the
scholarship. I
didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17
at the time.

Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year
old whiz kid
ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he
could get him an
appointment at the academy.


Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give
him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the
fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from.




heh. "chock"



This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes.


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On 11/8/15 3:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 16:59:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/6/2015 2:51 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!



The West Point thing isn't the only strange tale to come from Carson in
the past week. He also gave an account about how he was somewhat of a
bad ass as a kid living in Detroit and recounted an event where he
stabbed some other kid in the stomach with a knife. The media jumped
all over this, investigating and interviewing anyone they could find who
knew Carson at that time. Last I knew, nobody has any recollection of
such an event.

He has a right to his beliefs and his religious views but I am starting
to wonder if he has all his oars in the water.




We've been camping. Haven't heard that story yet. But I did listen to CNN for a few
minutes on the way to the campground. I am convinced the liberal media will do
anything it can to drag any GOP candidate through the dirt. I don't for a minute
believe the liberal media did all that much searching to find a witness to the
'incident'.
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Oooooh...another right-wing simpie blaming the "liberal media" for the
bull**** spewed by Ben "Call Me Crazy" Carson...

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On 11/8/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or
using
sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely
that
he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point.
Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted.
Perhaps he
had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then
Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time
that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine
Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in
fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military
(at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA.
As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of
the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board
at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ
happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had
asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was
shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about
the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers
that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they
are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd
alternate for
my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his
appointments. I
would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail
somehow
to have got the appointment.



The problem with Carson's story is that all references to Westmoreland
being involved have now disappeared from his account of what happened.
In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a
"scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't
remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship.

I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would
major in a
'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the
scholarship. I
didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17
at the time.

Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year
old whiz kid
ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he
could get him an
appointment at the academy.

Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give
him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given the
fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from.




heh. "chock"



This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes.



In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," he
claims that as a youth he:

He tried to hit his mother with a hammer.
He hit someone with a lock, gashing the person's forehead.
Hit someone with a rock, breaking the person's glasses and causing injury.
Tried to stab "a friend" in the stomach with a knife.

When recently challenged about these accounts, he said they are
absolutely true. He claims he suffered from an uncontrollable
"pathological temper."

So far, nobody has come forward to substantiate his claims.

WTF?



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On 11/8/15 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite
wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or
using
sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely
that
he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point.
Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted.
Perhaps he
had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then
Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time
that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine
Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in
fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military
(at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA.
As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of
the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board
at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ
happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had
asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was
shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about
the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers
that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they
are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd
alternate for
my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his
appointments. I
would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail
somehow
to have got the appointment.



The problem with Carson's story is that all references to
Westmoreland
being involved have now disappeared from his account of what
happened.
In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a
"scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he can't
remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship.

I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would
major in a
'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the
scholarship. I
didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17
at the time.

Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year
old whiz kid
ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he
could get him an
appointment at the academy.

Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give
him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given
the
fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from.




heh. "chock"



This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes.



In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," he
claims that as a youth he:

He tried to hit his mother with a hammer.
He hit someone with a lock, gashing the person's forehead.
Hit someone with a rock, breaking the person's glasses and causing injury.
Tried to stab "a friend" in the stomach with a knife.

When recently challenged about these accounts, he said they are
absolutely true. He claims he suffered from an uncontrollable
"pathological temper."

So far, nobody has come forward to substantiate his claims.

WTF?




He's a psychopath in his mind?

Obviously, he'd make a terrific POTUS.

Perhaps the victims won't come forward because they're afraid a Gang of
Crazed Evangelical Carson Supporters will bomb their houses or shoot them.
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On 11/8/2015 6:37 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/8/15 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite
wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or
using
sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's
likely
that
he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West
Point.
Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted.
Perhaps he
had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then
Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time
that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can
imagine
Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in
fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military
(at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA.
As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a
board of
the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the
board
at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ
happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had
asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was
shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about
the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several
officers
that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they
are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd
alternate for
my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his
appointments. I
would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail
somehow
to have got the appointment.



The problem with Carson's story is that all references to
Westmoreland
being involved have now disappeared from his account of what
happened.
In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a
"scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he
can't
remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship.

I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would
major in a
'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the
scholarship. I
didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I was 17
at the time.

Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year
old whiz kid
ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he
could get him an
appointment at the academy.

Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give
him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given
the
fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from.




heh. "chock"


This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes.



In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," he
claims that as a youth he:

He tried to hit his mother with a hammer.
He hit someone with a lock, gashing the person's forehead.
Hit someone with a rock, breaking the person's glasses and causing
injury.
Tried to stab "a friend" in the stomach with a knife.

When recently challenged about these accounts, he said they are
absolutely true. He claims he suffered from an uncontrollable
"pathological temper."

So far, nobody has come forward to substantiate his claims.

WTF?




He's a psychopath in his mind?

Obviously, he'd make a terrific POTUS.

Perhaps the victims won't come forward because they're afraid a Gang of
Crazed Evangelical Carson Supporters will bomb their houses or shoot them.



He has credited the adoption of his religious beliefs as being the
reason he turned from a troubled youth to a mild mannered, soft spoken
neurosurgeon. At least that's what he claims in his book, from what
I hear. I haven't read it .. and won't.


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On 11/8/15 6:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 6:37 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/8/15 6:28 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 5:50 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/8/15 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/8/2015 4:02 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2015 02:12:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 11/6/2015 5:40 PM, Califbill wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite
wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago,
and/or
using
sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's
likely
that
he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West
Point.
Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted.
Perhaps he
had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then
Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time
that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can
imagine
Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in
fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military
(at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to
USMA.
As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a
board of
the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the
board
at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ
happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one
had
asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was
shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know
about
the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several
officers
that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as
they
are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Different ways of getting to military academy. I was a 2nd
alternate for
my congressman. He had come competitive exams for his
appointments. I
would have had to have both the primary and the 1st alternate fail
somehow
to have got the appointment.



The problem with Carson's story is that all references to
Westmoreland
being involved have now disappeared from his account of what
happened.
In a book he claims it was Westmoreland who said he could get a
"scholarship". His most recent story (last night) was that he
can't
remember who the people were who offered him the scholarship.

I was offered a scholarship to the University of Kansas, if I would
major in a
'music' field. I have no idea who the people were who offered me the
scholarship. I
didn't take it because I wasn't interested in a music major. I
was 17
at the time.

Maybe he never met Westmoreland. But then again, if he was a 17 year
old whiz kid
ROTC student, I would have no problem believing someone told him he
could get him an
appointment at the academy.

Carson described Westmoreland's offer as a "scholarship". I'll give
him a pass on that and cock it off as semantics ... especially given
the
fact that Carson didn't accept the offer ... wherever it came from.




heh. "chock"


This is a fun discussion here, considering that Carson is loonytunes.


In his 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story," he
claims that as a youth he:

He tried to hit his mother with a hammer.
He hit someone with a lock, gashing the person's forehead.
Hit someone with a rock, breaking the person's glasses and causing
injury.
Tried to stab "a friend" in the stomach with a knife.

When recently challenged about these accounts, he said they are
absolutely true. He claims he suffered from an uncontrollable
"pathological temper."

So far, nobody has come forward to substantiate his claims.

WTF?




He's a psychopath in his mind?

Obviously, he'd make a terrific POTUS.

Perhaps the victims won't come forward because they're afraid a Gang of
Crazed Evangelical Carson Supporters will bomb their houses or shoot
them.



He has credited the adoption of his religious beliefs as being the
reason he turned from a troubled youth to a mild mannered, soft spoken
neurosurgeon. At least that's what he claims in his book, from what
I hear. I haven't read it .. and won't.



I've heard nothing from Carson that would make me change my mind about
him being a religious crackpot.
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