Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.
.....
Richard, I don't know of many politicos or wannabes that don't have bones in their closets.

Like the movie 'Master Comander'. While searching for the enemy French man o war, the captain looked at the vast ocean and said to the ship surgeon- "finding them out there would be like finding an honest man in parliament "

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:18:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

Maybe that will attract more liberals for whom integrity seems to be a detriment.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.
....
Richard, I don't know of many politicos or wannabes that don't have bones in their closets.

Like the movie 'Master Comander'. While searching for the enemy French man o war, the captain looked at the vast ocean and said to the ship surgeon- "finding them out there would be like finding an honest man in parliament "

Did you by any chance read that whole Patrick O'Brian series? Fantastic series!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:45:25 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 1:18:49 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

He's mis-remembering something that happened 46 years ago, and/or using sloppy language to describer it. From what I've read, it's likely that he did meet General Westmoreland, and they did discuss West Point. Carson never applied, so the appointment was never granted. Perhaps he had the impression that it was a given?

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

But that didn't end that particular career, did it?

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:18:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

Already posted, but it's a decent story:

If Westmoreland said he could get Carson into West Point, then Carson could have
gotten into West Point. Carson probably didn't know at the time that there is no such
thing as a 'full paid scholarship' to West Point, but I can imagine Westmoreland
using such a term. Cadets do not pay to attend USMA, but are, in fact, paid a salary
while there. They do incur a five year obligation to the military (at least it was
five years when I was in the military).

It's very easy to be confused about entrance requirements to USMA. As a young PFC, my
lieutenant urged me to apply, which I did. I went before a board of the company
officers, a board of battalion officers, and then went to the board at the brigade
level. When I walked in the personnel staff NCO at the brigade HQ happened to look at
my hand. He then looked up and said, "Are you married?" No one had asked that
question or noticed the ring. When I told him I was, he was shocked. Of course he
cancelled that board and let the full colonel presiding know about the boo-boo.

Was I offered a scholarship? No. But I was told by several officers that I could get
into the academy.

**** happens.

Now some liberal can make a lot of hay from my story, just as they are Ben Carson's
story.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 11/6/15 1:18 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

I don't see it making much difference in his support. Carson's base
consists of evangelical christians, and they base their beliefs on a
book filled with fairy tales.

What will bring Carson down, though, are how he mixes those fairy tales
with reality and comes up with a new set of fairy tales. Those weird
beliefs don't play well with rational people.

As in,

Carson is upset that the XL pipeline isn't going to be built, because
"where will we store our grain?"

On 11/6/15 2:37 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:18:38 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.

Maybe that will attract more liberals for whom integrity seems to be a detriment.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Carson has very little ability to attract voters with critical thinking
skills who don't take the biblical fairy tales at face value.

On 11/6/2015 1:28 PM, Tim wrote:
Outed regarding his claimed appointment to West Point.
That's the end of his political ambitions, assuming he
ever had any.

Almost as bad as claiming to have flown into Bosnia under
heavy sniper fire.
....
Richard, I don't know of many politicos or wannabes that don't have bones in their closets.

Like the movie 'Master Comander'. While searching for the enemy French man o war, the captain looked at the vast ocean and said to the ship surgeon- "finding them out there would be like finding an honest man in parliament "



Difference is ... we are not talking about youthful transgressions that
actually occurred. The West Point appointment and sniper fire in Bosnia
(by Hillary) are outright lies ... fabrications.