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John H.[_5_] January 9th 16 06:19 PM

A reason to carry?
 
Today while walking the dogs across the end of a school yard, I spot a large dog
apparently loose in the playground on the other side of the soccer fields - about 100
yards away. The dog spots me with my two dogs and starts out across the fields at us.
The owner, a guy with the loose leash in his hand, comes out from behind the
playground equipment and begins yelling at and chasing the dog. The dog, a pit bull I
can see as it got closer, continued towards us.

I was standing at the corner of a fence and stair rails, so I put the dogs behind the
fence and waited. A couple seconds later, the pit bull is a few yards away and I
crouch down and yell, "NO!" jumping at the dog as I did so. This stopped the pit
bull, momentarily. It turned towards its owner, now about 50 yards away, and then
turned back towards us. Again I yelled. It stopped, but as the owner got close, the
dog took off coming around the fence. Again, yelling and jumping caused it to shy
away, and finally the owner got between my dogs and his dog, getting his dog to stop.
I'm sure I was very lucky the f'ing dog wasn't a bit more aggressive and come after
me. Maybe it was the bulk of a red winter coat and hood.

The owner, although stupid as ****, was apologetic, and I walked off. I should have
called Animal Control, but forgot I had my cell phone.

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.

I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 9th 16 06:58 PM

A reason to carry?
 
On 1/9/2016 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:
Today while walking the dogs across the end of a school yard, I spot a large dog
apparently loose in the playground on the other side of the soccer fields - about 100
yards away. The dog spots me with my two dogs and starts out across the fields at us.
The owner, a guy with the loose leash in his hand, comes out from behind the
playground equipment and begins yelling at and chasing the dog. The dog, a pit bull I
can see as it got closer, continued towards us.

I was standing at the corner of a fence and stair rails, so I put the dogs behind the
fence and waited. A couple seconds later, the pit bull is a few yards away and I
crouch down and yell, "NO!" jumping at the dog as I did so. This stopped the pit
bull, momentarily. It turned towards its owner, now about 50 yards away, and then
turned back towards us. Again I yelled. It stopped, but as the owner got close, the
dog took off coming around the fence. Again, yelling and jumping caused it to shy
away, and finally the owner got between my dogs and his dog, getting his dog to stop.
I'm sure I was very lucky the f'ing dog wasn't a bit more aggressive and come after
me. Maybe it was the bulk of a red winter coat and hood.

The owner, although stupid as ****, was apologetic, and I walked off. I should have
called Animal Control, but forgot I had my cell phone.

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.

I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

That sounds like Harry. Consider a baseball bat instead, or mace even.
I'm not saying don't carry, but bashing an aggressive dog's brains out
might go easier on you should you become tangled up with the powers that be.

[email protected] January 9th 16 06:59 PM

A reason to carry?
 
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 12:19:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.

I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.


===

From a legal stand poing you're probably on much safer ground to first
try bear spray (pepper spray/mace) before you pull your firearm.

http://www.clevertraining.com/udap-safety-orange-pepper-power-bear-spray-with-hip-holster-7-9oz?CAWELAID=120229710000004048&catargetid=1202297 10000012586&cadevice=c&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_MK0BRDQsf_bs ZS-_OIBEiQADPf--sBqJa-WSahYFfRqPi822RpMq7GTJtUdtNKXZylNndoaAgU98P8HAQ

You don't want to end up in a situation where you use up your life
savings on legal fees.

John H.[_5_] January 9th 16 07:26 PM

A reason to carry?
 
On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 12:59:22 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 12:19:49 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.

I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.


===

From a legal stand poing you're probably on much safer ground to first
try bear spray (pepper spray/mace) before you pull your firearm.

http://www.clevertraining.com/udap-safety-orange-pepper-power-bear-spray-with-hip-holster-7-9oz?CAWELAID=120229710000004048&catargetid=1202297 10000012586&cadevice=c&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_MK0BRDQsf_bs ZS-_OIBEiQADPf--sBqJa-WSahYFfRqPi822RpMq7GTJtUdtNKXZylNndoaAgU98P8HAQ

You don't want to end up in a situation where you use up your life
savings on legal fees.


Good idea. Thanks.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] January 9th 16 07:27 PM

A reason to carry?
 
On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 12:58:35 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 1/9/2016 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:
Today while walking the dogs across the end of a school yard, I spot a large dog
apparently loose in the playground on the other side of the soccer fields - about 100
yards away. The dog spots me with my two dogs and starts out across the fields at us.
The owner, a guy with the loose leash in his hand, comes out from behind the
playground equipment and begins yelling at and chasing the dog. The dog, a pit bull I
can see as it got closer, continued towards us.

I was standing at the corner of a fence and stair rails, so I put the dogs behind the
fence and waited. A couple seconds later, the pit bull is a few yards away and I
crouch down and yell, "NO!" jumping at the dog as I did so. This stopped the pit
bull, momentarily. It turned towards its owner, now about 50 yards away, and then
turned back towards us. Again I yelled. It stopped, but as the owner got close, the
dog took off coming around the fence. Again, yelling and jumping caused it to shy
away, and finally the owner got between my dogs and his dog, getting his dog to stop.
I'm sure I was very lucky the f'ing dog wasn't a bit more aggressive and come after
me. Maybe it was the bulk of a red winter coat and hood.

The owner, although stupid as ****, was apologetic, and I walked off. I should have
called Animal Control, but forgot I had my cell phone.

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.

I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

That sounds like Harry. Consider a baseball bat instead, or mace even.
I'm not saying don't carry, but bashing an aggressive dog's brains out
might go easier on you should you become tangled up with the powers that be.


Thanks to both you and Wayne. Hadn't thought of pepper/mace.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Mr. Luddite January 9th 16 07:32 PM

A reason to carry?
 
On 1/9/2016 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:
Today while walking the dogs across the end of a school yard, I spot a large dog
apparently loose in the playground on the other side of the soccer fields - about 100
yards away. The dog spots me with my two dogs and starts out across the fields at us.
The owner, a guy with the loose leash in his hand, comes out from behind the
playground equipment and begins yelling at and chasing the dog. The dog, a pit bull I
can see as it got closer, continued towards us.

I was standing at the corner of a fence and stair rails, so I put the dogs behind the
fence and waited. A couple seconds later, the pit bull is a few yards away and I
crouch down and yell, "NO!" jumping at the dog as I did so. This stopped the pit
bull, momentarily. It turned towards its owner, now about 50 yards away, and then
turned back towards us. Again I yelled. It stopped, but as the owner got close, the
dog took off coming around the fence. Again, yelling and jumping caused it to shy
away, and finally the owner got between my dogs and his dog, getting his dog to stop.
I'm sure I was very lucky the f'ing dog wasn't a bit more aggressive and come after
me. Maybe it was the bulk of a red winter coat and hood.

The owner, although stupid as ****, was apologetic, and I walked off. I should have
called Animal Control, but forgot I had my cell phone.

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.



I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.



So who are you going to shot, the dog or the dog's owner?




Keyser Söze January 9th 16 07:41 PM

A reason to carry?
 
On 1/9/16 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:
Today while walking the dogs across the end of a school yard, I spot a large dog
apparently loose in the playground on the other side of the soccer fields - about 100
yards away. The dog spots me with my two dogs and starts out across the fields at us.
The owner, a guy with the loose leash in his hand, comes out from behind the
playground equipment and begins yelling at and chasing the dog. The dog, a pit bull I
can see as it got closer, continued towards us.

I was standing at the corner of a fence and stair rails, so I put the dogs behind the
fence and waited. A couple seconds later, the pit bull is a few yards away and I
crouch down and yell, "NO!" jumping at the dog as I did so. This stopped the pit
bull, momentarily. It turned towards its owner, now about 50 yards away, and then
turned back towards us. Again I yelled. It stopped, but as the owner got close, the
dog took off coming around the fence. Again, yelling and jumping caused it to shy
away, and finally the owner got between my dogs and his dog, getting his dog to stop.
I'm sure I was very lucky the f'ing dog wasn't a bit more aggressive and come after
me. Maybe it was the bulk of a red winter coat and hood.

The owner, although stupid as ****, was apologetic, and I walked off. I should have
called Animal Control, but forgot I had my cell phone.

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.

I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


I can see the headlines now...

Right-wing dog owner baits pit bull belonging to legal immigrant,
shoots dog and immigrant.

Perfect

Califbill January 9th 16 07:46 PM

A reason to carry?
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2016 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:
Today while walking the dogs across the end of a school yard, I spot a large dog
apparently loose in the playground on the other side of the soccer fields - about 100
yards away. The dog spots me with my two dogs and starts out across the fields at us.
The owner, a guy with the loose leash in his hand, comes out from behind the
playground equipment and begins yelling at and chasing the dog. The dog, a pit bull I
can see as it got closer, continued towards us.

I was standing at the corner of a fence and stair rails, so I put the dogs behind the
fence and waited. A couple seconds later, the pit bull is a few yards away and I
crouch down and yell, "NO!" jumping at the dog as I did so. This stopped the pit
bull, momentarily. It turned towards its owner, now about 50 yards away, and then
turned back towards us. Again I yelled. It stopped, but as the owner got close, the
dog took off coming around the fence. Again, yelling and jumping caused it to shy
away, and finally the owner got between my dogs and his dog, getting his dog to stop.
I'm sure I was very lucky the f'ing dog wasn't a bit more aggressive and come after
me. Maybe it was the bulk of a red winter coat and hood.

The owner, although stupid as ****, was apologetic, and I walked off. I should have
called Animal Control, but forgot I had my cell phone.

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.



I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.



So who are you going to shot, the dog or the dog's owner?





Around parts of the Bay Area would be both. In that order.


John H.[_5_] January 9th 16 09:19 PM

A reason to carry?
 
On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:32:47 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/9/2016 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:
Today while walking the dogs across the end of a school yard, I spot a large dog
apparently loose in the playground on the other side of the soccer fields - about 100
yards away. The dog spots me with my two dogs and starts out across the fields at us.
The owner, a guy with the loose leash in his hand, comes out from behind the
playground equipment and begins yelling at and chasing the dog. The dog, a pit bull I
can see as it got closer, continued towards us.

I was standing at the corner of a fence and stair rails, so I put the dogs behind the
fence and waited. A couple seconds later, the pit bull is a few yards away and I
crouch down and yell, "NO!" jumping at the dog as I did so. This stopped the pit
bull, momentarily. It turned towards its owner, now about 50 yards away, and then
turned back towards us. Again I yelled. It stopped, but as the owner got close, the
dog took off coming around the fence. Again, yelling and jumping caused it to shy
away, and finally the owner got between my dogs and his dog, getting his dog to stop.
I'm sure I was very lucky the f'ing dog wasn't a bit more aggressive and come after
me. Maybe it was the bulk of a red winter coat and hood.

The owner, although stupid as ****, was apologetic, and I walked off. I should have
called Animal Control, but forgot I had my cell phone.

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.



I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.



So who are you going to shot, the dog or the dog's owner?


A seagull, maybe, or starling. Whatever's flying overhead at the time. But mace is a
better idea.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] January 9th 16 09:20 PM

A reason to carry?
 
On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 13:41:45 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/9/16 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:
Today while walking the dogs across the end of a school yard, I spot a large dog
apparently loose in the playground on the other side of the soccer fields - about 100
yards away. The dog spots me with my two dogs and starts out across the fields at us.
The owner, a guy with the loose leash in his hand, comes out from behind the
playground equipment and begins yelling at and chasing the dog. The dog, a pit bull I
can see as it got closer, continued towards us.

I was standing at the corner of a fence and stair rails, so I put the dogs behind the
fence and waited. A couple seconds later, the pit bull is a few yards away and I
crouch down and yell, "NO!" jumping at the dog as I did so. This stopped the pit
bull, momentarily. It turned towards its owner, now about 50 yards away, and then
turned back towards us. Again I yelled. It stopped, but as the owner got close, the
dog took off coming around the fence. Again, yelling and jumping caused it to shy
away, and finally the owner got between my dogs and his dog, getting his dog to stop.
I'm sure I was very lucky the f'ing dog wasn't a bit more aggressive and come after
me. Maybe it was the bulk of a red winter coat and hood.

The owner, although stupid as ****, was apologetic, and I walked off. I should have
called Animal Control, but forgot I had my cell phone.

Coming home I seriously considered carrying when I walked the dogs. This is the third
time a large dog has either attacked or threatened my dogs while I was walking them.
Two times were German Shepherds, this time a Pit Bull.

I think from now on I'll have a P938 in my pocket. This is getting ridiculous.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


I can see the headlines now...

Right-wing dog owner baits pit bull belonging to legal immigrant,
shoots dog and immigrant.

Perfect


Thank God we're not all sick, eh?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


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