On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:11:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/20/2016 2:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/20/16 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

The answer is simple. Our government will shut down for a week.
I suppose they will find a way to blame it on the GOP ;-)


My recollection is a federal government shutdown of only two days for a
"blizzard," and, of course, making the highways and byways safe for
travel and clearing the Metro and rail commuter tracks takes time.


The average yearly snowfall in Wash DC is about 14 inches total.
This storm may bring two feet or more all at once. It might take a
while to get cleared out.

I have been in DC for a number of these 2'+ snow falls and it tends to
jam the place up for quite a while. A lot depends on what comes behind
it. Sometimes it warms up and things actually get worse because it
still freezes over night so you get black ice. My Firebird wore a
little reminder of that until after I sold it.
If it snows again it even gets uglier and people just stay home for
days.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:10:54 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/20/2016 9:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 18:00:47 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

12:30 PMMr. Luddite

Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

We will hopefully miss the heavy stuff up here, being on the northern
edge. After last winter even 8 to 12 inches is duck soup.
....

Richard, I didn't see this before I made the other post. My tv natl broadcast said about a foot for the DC area. Hope you don't get overloaded like last year.


As long as it doesn't screw up my golf game Sunday, I don't care.

I think I'd make some other plans for Sunday John.


Hell, it got me today.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:11:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/20/2016 2:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/20/16 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

The answer is simple. Our government will shut down for a week.
I suppose they will find a way to blame it on the GOP ;-)


My recollection is a federal government shutdown of only two days for a
"blizzard," and, of course, making the highways and byways safe for
travel and clearing the Metro and rail commuter tracks takes time.


The average yearly snowfall in Wash DC is about 14 inches total.
This storm may bring two feet or more all at once. It might take a
while to get cleared out.

I have been in DC for a number of these 2'+ snow falls and it tends to
jam the place up for quite a while. A lot depends on what comes behind
it. Sometimes it warms up and things actually get worse because it
still freezes over night so you get black ice. My Firebird wore a
little reminder of that until after I sold it.
If it snows again it even gets uglier and people just stay home for
days.

I got propane, so I can bbq. Whenever I see a Dominion Virginia Power truck in the
neighborhood I go thank the guy. We've not had an outage over a few hours since I
moved here in 1995 (knock on wood).
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 1/21/2016 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:11:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/20/2016 2:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/20/16 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

The answer is simple. Our government will shut down for a week.
I suppose they will find a way to blame it on the GOP ;-)


My recollection is a federal government shutdown of only two days for a
"blizzard," and, of course, making the highways and byways safe for
travel and clearing the Metro and rail commuter tracks takes time.


The average yearly snowfall in Wash DC is about 14 inches total.
This storm may bring two feet or more all at once. It might take a
while to get cleared out.

I have been in DC for a number of these 2'+ snow falls and it tends to
jam the place up for quite a while. A lot depends on what comes behind
it. Sometimes it warms up and things actually get worse because it
still freezes over night so you get black ice. My Firebird wore a
little reminder of that until after I sold it.
If it snows again it even gets uglier and people just stay home for
days.

I got propane, so I can bbq. Whenever I see a Dominion Virginia Power truck in the
neighborhood I go thank the guy. We've not had an outage over a few hours since I
moved here in 1995 (knock on wood).

Greg's comment about him being in DC for a "number" of these 2'+ snow
falls got me curious, so I did some reading. According to this website
which lists the 10 worst DC area snow storms in history, the last time
the DC area had over 2 feet of snow (in a single storm) was in 1922.
All others on the "worst" list are less than 2 feet, most of them in the
14" to 17" range. So, either Greg is a lot older than he admits or he's
counting the results of multiple storms. :-)

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Ten-Worst-Storms-in-DC-History-365815301.html

On 1/21/2016 9:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/21/2016 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:11:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/20/2016 2:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/20/16 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:


Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow
this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

The answer is simple. Our government will shut down for a week.
I suppose they will find a way to blame it on the GOP ;-)


My recollection is a federal government shutdown of only two days
for a
"blizzard," and, of course, making the highways and byways safe for
travel and clearing the Metro and rail commuter tracks takes time.


The average yearly snowfall in Wash DC is about 14 inches total.
This storm may bring two feet or more all at once. It might take a
while to get cleared out.

I have been in DC for a number of these 2'+ snow falls and it tends to
jam the place up for quite a while. A lot depends on what comes behind
it. Sometimes it warms up and things actually get worse because it
still freezes over night so you get black ice. My Firebird wore a
little reminder of that until after I sold it.
If it snows again it even gets uglier and people just stay home for
days.

I got propane, so I can bbq. Whenever I see a Dominion Virginia Power
truck in the
neighborhood I go thank the guy. We've not had an outage over a few
hours since I
moved here in 1995 (knock on wood).

Greg's comment about him being in DC for a "number" of these 2'+ snow
falls got me curious, so I did some reading. According to this website
which lists the 10 worst DC area snow storms in history, the last time
the DC area had over 2 feet of snow (in a single storm) was in 1922. All
others on the "worst" list are less than 2 feet, most of them in the 14"
to 17" range. So, either Greg is a lot older than he admits or he's
counting the results of multiple storms. :-)

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Ten-Worst-Storms-in-DC-History-365815301.html




His rememberator is broken or as you say, he's older than he claims.

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
" Greg's comment about him being in DC for a "number" of these 2'+ snow
falls got me curious, *so I did some reading. *According to this website
which lists the 10 worst DC area snow storms in history, the last time
the DC area had over 2 feet of snow (in a single storm) was in 1922.
All others on the "worst" list are less than 2 feet, most of them in the
14" to 17" range. *So, either Greg is a lot older than he admits or he's
counting the results of multiple storms. * :-) "


A number of this groups posters seem prone to exaggeration. Maybe Ditzy Dan has nowhere near 45+ guns hiding under his bed.

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 08:27:04 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:11:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/20/2016 2:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/20/16 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

The answer is simple. Our government will shut down for a week.
I suppose they will find a way to blame it on the GOP ;-)


My recollection is a federal government shutdown of only two days for a
"blizzard," and, of course, making the highways and byways safe for
travel and clearing the Metro and rail commuter tracks takes time.


The average yearly snowfall in Wash DC is about 14 inches total.
This storm may bring two feet or more all at once. It might take a
while to get cleared out.

I have been in DC for a number of these 2'+ snow falls and it tends to
jam the place up for quite a while. A lot depends on what comes behind
it. Sometimes it warms up and things actually get worse because it
still freezes over night so you get black ice. My Firebird wore a
little reminder of that until after I sold it.
If it snows again it even gets uglier and people just stay home for
days.

I got propane, so I can bbq. Whenever I see a Dominion Virginia Power truck in the
neighborhood I go thank the guy. We've not had an outage over a few hours since I
moved here in 1995 (knock on wood).

Power outages were really pretty rare in the olden days. I don't
remember them at all when we lived inside the DC line and very rare
just over the line in PG. When I moved down to Clinton in the 70s we
had a few that lasted more than an hour but not many. Now my Ex says
it happens often enough that she bought a generator.
Ice storms were worse than the snow. (The old "sleet and freezing
rain" that was worse than a good snow)
This storm looks unusual because all the snow will come at once. Our
big snow events usually involved it snowing every day or two for a
week or so. Worst case was a pattern of cold air from the west and a
low coming up from the south. That was when PG got slammed. It usually
snowed a lot more in Montgomery and Frederick.

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:10:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/21/2016 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:11:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/20/2016 2:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/20/16 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

The answer is simple. Our government will shut down for a week.
I suppose they will find a way to blame it on the GOP ;-)


My recollection is a federal government shutdown of only two days for a
"blizzard," and, of course, making the highways and byways safe for
travel and clearing the Metro and rail commuter tracks takes time.


The average yearly snowfall in Wash DC is about 14 inches total.
This storm may bring two feet or more all at once. It might take a
while to get cleared out.

I have been in DC for a number of these 2'+ snow falls and it tends to
jam the place up for quite a while. A lot depends on what comes behind
it. Sometimes it warms up and things actually get worse because it
still freezes over night so you get black ice. My Firebird wore a
little reminder of that until after I sold it.
If it snows again it even gets uglier and people just stay home for
days.

I got propane, so I can bbq. Whenever I see a Dominion Virginia Power truck in the
neighborhood I go thank the guy. We've not had an outage over a few hours since I
moved here in 1995 (knock on wood).

Greg's comment about him being in DC for a "number" of these 2'+ snow
falls got me curious, so I did some reading. According to this website
which lists the 10 worst DC area snow storms in history, the last time
the DC area had over 2 feet of snow (in a single storm) was in 1922.
All others on the "worst" list are less than 2 feet, most of them in the
14" to 17" range. So, either Greg is a lot older than he admits or he's
counting the results of multiple storms. :-)

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Ten-Worst-Storms-in-DC-History-365815301.html



As I just told john. It was when you had a week or more of constant
snow. Technically it was separate storms but it just looked like it
was just one big event. That was when the place was gridlocked for
over a week. If they have not cleared off all the old snow and new
snow falls, Who cares?
Unfortunately I still had to work.
It was still rare enough that they did not have the equipment to deal
with it. You saw construction equipment out there clearing snow.
Big rubber tire loaders seem to work the best but we did see 6 wheel
graders and all of the salt trucks had plows on them.

On 1/21/2016 9:41 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:10:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/21/2016 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:11:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/20/2016 2:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/20/16 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

The answer is simple. Our government will shut down for a week.
I suppose they will find a way to blame it on the GOP ;-)


My recollection is a federal government shutdown of only two days for a
"blizzard," and, of course, making the highways and byways safe for
travel and clearing the Metro and rail commuter tracks takes time.


The average yearly snowfall in Wash DC is about 14 inches total.
This storm may bring two feet or more all at once. It might take a
while to get cleared out.

I have been in DC for a number of these 2'+ snow falls and it tends to
jam the place up for quite a while. A lot depends on what comes behind
it. Sometimes it warms up and things actually get worse because it
still freezes over night so you get black ice. My Firebird wore a
little reminder of that until after I sold it.
If it snows again it even gets uglier and people just stay home for
days.

I got propane, so I can bbq. Whenever I see a Dominion Virginia Power truck in the
neighborhood I go thank the guy. We've not had an outage over a few hours since I
moved here in 1995 (knock on wood).

Greg's comment about him being in DC for a "number" of these 2'+ snow
falls got me curious, so I did some reading. According to this website
which lists the 10 worst DC area snow storms in history, the last time
the DC area had over 2 feet of snow (in a single storm) was in 1922.
All others on the "worst" list are less than 2 feet, most of them in the
14" to 17" range. So, either Greg is a lot older than he admits or he's
counting the results of multiple storms. :-)

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Ten-Worst-Storms-in-DC-History-365815301.html



As I just told john. It was when you had a week or more of constant
snow. Technically it was separate storms but it just looked like it
was just one big event. That was when the place was gridlocked for
over a week. If they have not cleared off all the old snow and new
snow falls, Who cares?
Unfortunately I still had to work.
It was still rare enough that they did not have the equipment to deal
with it. You saw construction equipment out there clearing snow.
Big rubber tire loaders seem to work the best but we did see 6 wheel
graders and all of the salt trucks had plows on them.



I certainly don't want a repeat of what we had up here, especially in
February. First "major" storm was just about now in January and then
one a week for the next 5 weeks. Total was about 5' as measured in my
backyard.

I remember the blizzard of '78. I had just left active duty and was in
the reserves. That was a two day storm that dumped an incredible amount
of snow very quickly. Mike Dukakis was governor and he shut the state
down for a week. It was illegal to drive anywhere unless you were
driving an emergency vehicle. A large state plow truck became stuck in
front of our house. Snow was just too high and heavy for it to move.
They had to come in with a huge Caterpillar bulldozer to rescue the
truck and continue plowing the street.

All military reserves were called up. I was picked up in a big military
4x4 truck. Somehow we made it the 20 miles or so to the South Weymouth
Naval Airstation. When I got there it turned out there was really
nothing for us to do so I ended up as a spotter in a Navy helicopter
flying along the coast from NH to the Cape looking for
anyone who needed to be rescued. We were flying along a coastal road
and saw a large van ... like a FedEx or UPS truck ... that only had
about a foot of the roof line showing. The pilot hovered over it to
take some pictures and we realized it wasn't snow that had covered it.
It was sand, dumped along the coastal roadway by the wave action created
by the storm.

On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 10:14:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/21/2016 9:41 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 09:10:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/21/2016 8:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 00:07:59 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 17:11:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/20/2016 2:13 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/20/16 2:07 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:30:50 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Looking like Wash DC is the bull's eye for 2 or more feet of snow this
weekend. This will be interesting to watch as it pans out.

The answer is simple. Our government will shut down for a week.
I suppose they will find a way to blame it on the GOP ;-)


My recollection is a federal government shutdown of only two days for a
"blizzard," and, of course, making the highways and byways safe for
travel and clearing the Metro and rail commuter tracks takes time.


The average yearly snowfall in Wash DC is about 14 inches total.
This storm may bring two feet or more all at once. It might take a
while to get cleared out.

I have been in DC for a number of these 2'+ snow falls and it tends to
jam the place up for quite a while. A lot depends on what comes behind
it. Sometimes it warms up and things actually get worse because it
still freezes over night so you get black ice. My Firebird wore a
little reminder of that until after I sold it.
If it snows again it even gets uglier and people just stay home for
days.

I got propane, so I can bbq. Whenever I see a Dominion Virginia Power truck in the
neighborhood I go thank the guy. We've not had an outage over a few hours since I
moved here in 1995 (knock on wood).

Greg's comment about him being in DC for a "number" of these 2'+ snow
falls got me curious, so I did some reading. According to this website
which lists the 10 worst DC area snow storms in history, the last time
the DC area had over 2 feet of snow (in a single storm) was in 1922.
All others on the "worst" list are less than 2 feet, most of them in the
14" to 17" range. So, either Greg is a lot older than he admits or he's
counting the results of multiple storms. :-)

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Ten-Worst-Storms-in-DC-History-365815301.html



As I just told john. It was when you had a week or more of constant
snow. Technically it was separate storms but it just looked like it
was just one big event. That was when the place was gridlocked for
over a week. If they have not cleared off all the old snow and new
snow falls, Who cares?
Unfortunately I still had to work.
It was still rare enough that they did not have the equipment to deal
with it. You saw construction equipment out there clearing snow.
Big rubber tire loaders seem to work the best but we did see 6 wheel
graders and all of the salt trucks had plows on them.



I certainly don't want a repeat of what we had up here, especially in
February. First "major" storm was just about now in January and then
one a week for the next 5 weeks. Total was about 5' as measured in my
backyard.

I remember the blizzard of '78. I had just left active duty and was in
the reserves. That was a two day storm that dumped an incredible amount
of snow very quickly. Mike Dukakis was governor and he shut the state
down for a week. It was illegal to drive anywhere unless you were
driving an emergency vehicle. A large state plow truck became stuck in
front of our house. Snow was just too high and heavy for it to move.
They had to come in with a huge Caterpillar bulldozer to rescue the
truck and continue plowing the street.

All military reserves were called up. I was picked up in a big military
4x4 truck. Somehow we made it the 20 miles or so to the South Weymouth
Naval Airstation. When I got there it turned out there was really
nothing for us to do so I ended up as a spotter in a Navy helicopter
flying along the coast from NH to the Cape looking for
anyone who needed to be rescued. We were flying along a coastal road
and saw a large van ... like a FedEx or UPS truck ... that only had
about a foot of the roof line showing. The pilot hovered over it to
take some pictures and we realized it wasn't snow that had covered it.
It was sand, dumped along the coastal roadway by the wave action created
by the storm.


I really only remember 3 times when we really got socked like that. It
just would not stop snowing. It still totaled about 2 feet over a week
or so and the place was pretty much shut down. I sold my Jeep during
one of those events. I got to the guy's house on top of a big hill in
Wheaton and he said "sold" from his front porch before he even got to
the car. We drove down to a bank on the plowed road (New Hampshire
Ave), he paid me and I waited in a bar for my wife to come get me.