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Keyser Söze February 11th 16 03:53 AM

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On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.


===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.


Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.

[email protected] February 11th 16 04:40 AM

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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:51 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.


===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.


Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.


===

Here's an interesting YouTube video of a coyote stalking a human. It
might make you rethink your strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI

RGrew176 February 11th 16 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Luddite (Post 1054983)
On 2/9/2016 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to check
up on the laws about that.


Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.





You might want to consider doing some reading on a subject before you
shoot your mouth off. Attacks on humans are rare but they occur.
Coyotes have lost their fear of humans in many areas (including around
here) due to over population and regular encounters. They are also
disease ridden due to their diet.

I am sure a coyote would understand what making a fist was all about, eh?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Musi...led/index.html

Boating All Out February 11th 16 08:31 AM

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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:51 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.


Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.


===

Here's an interesting YouTube video of a coyote stalking a human. It
might make you rethink your strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI

Good vid. No, it doesn't make me rethink. That guy was
playing around with it. He didn't want to give it a good kick.
Or maybe he wasn't capable of kicking. But he sure wasn't
afraid of it. He knew not to offer his back.

Mr. Luddite February 11th 16 11:34 AM

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On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:51 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.


===

Here's an interesting YouTube video of a coyote stalking a human. It
might make you rethink your strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI


Good vid. No, it doesn't make me rethink. That guy was
playing around with it. He didn't want to give it a good kick.
Or maybe he wasn't capable of kicking. But he sure wasn't
afraid of it. He knew not to offer his back.



You are a trip. One one hand you claim that a coyote is naturally
fearful of humans and won't go after one anyway and then, (above) you
say "my inclination would be to scare if off immediately, since I don't
want it attacking my back." So which is it? Will it attack or not?

A coyote is not a dog. Any wild animal that can easily take down and
kill a deer deserves some respect. It's a lot smarter to avoid a
confrontation than to further encourage and add to it's experience in
dealing with humans. The increasing frequency of human contact is what
is causing them to lose their fear in the first place.

Can't say I admire your bravery. It's more like stupidity.







Mr. Luddite February 11th 16 12:01 PM

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On 2/11/2016 2:31 AM, Boating All Out wrote:

You have to let any canine know who's boss.


I chuckled when I read this.

We have a dog named "Fudge". Good sized mutt that my wife
rescued as a 1 year old pup from an abusive owner years ago.

Fudge is an awesome dog and is more affectionate to those he knows than
our other goofy black lab, "Sam Adams".

But God help any stranger who encounters Fudge in the house or outside
in the fenced-in area we made for him. You could throw all the rocks at
him you want, try to kick him, make fists at him and yell at him until
you're hoarse but he's still going to try to get you.
Doesn't like strangers at all, especially guys. I had to rescue a
landscaper who Fudge cornered once. The guy was yelling his head off at
him but the only thing that saved him was a five foot high aluminum pool
fence that was slowing Fudge down. He was trying to bite his way
through the fence to get to the guy.

Fudge would probably be no match for a wild coyote though.




Keyser Söze February 11th 16 02:04 PM

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On 2/11/16 2:21 AM, RGrew176 wrote:
Mr. Luddite;1054983 Wrote:
On 2/9/2016 8:23 PM, Boating All Out wrote:-
In article ,
says...-

This was a little unnerving ....

Our horse barn is about 175 feet down the driveway from our house.
It has a small, two car garage attached to it where I keep the tractor
in the winter.

I had finished up plowing the driveway with the truck and decided to
walk down to the barn to get the tractor and do a little clean up
work.

Got halfway down to the barn when suddenly a coyote came trotting out
of
the woods beside the house. I stopped. It stopped ... about 20 feet
away and we just stared at each other. It showed absolutely no fear of
me. It kept looking at me, then in the direction it had been going
(towards the barn and garage) and then back at me again. I just stood
there. It finally started moving slowly towards the garage but then
stopped, turned and started walking back directly towards me. My
first
thought was that my gun was back in the house. It stopped again about
20 feet away and we stared at each other again for about 30 seconds
then
it moved on towards the garage. So, I slowly followed it, around the
corner and then realized that one of the garage doors was open. (I
had
been in there earlier).

My thought was that it had gone in the garage. Walked up slowly and
looked around ... no coyote. Turned around and there he was again,
standing behind me, again about 20, maybe 30 feet away. I booked it
into the garage, pulled the door down fast and watched him through one
of the door windows. He finally lost interest and trotted off
towards
my neighbor's house. They raise chickens. I think they will need to
do a head count tonight.

Made me think about what would happen if I had a gun and I was forced
to
shoot it if it had attacked or become more threatening. Need to
check
up on the laws about that.-

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.


-


You might want to consider doing some reading on a subject before you
shoot your mouth off. Attacks on humans are rare but they occur.
Coyotes have lost their fear of humans in many areas (including around
here) due to over population and regular encounters. They are also
disease ridden due to their diet.

I am sure a coyote would understand what making a fist was all about,
eh?


http://tinyurl.com/yzjq3u3





I remember reading about Taylor Mitchell shortly after her death. There
are some absolute numbskulls around who think "man" is the dominant
critter in the sorts of encounters being discussed here. Coyotes can run
around 40 pounds and have bodacious teeth, and there are many dogs
running loose who are significantly larger than coyotes and are very
hungry.

John H.[_5_] February 11th 16 02:28 PM

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On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.


Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.


Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

Keyser Söze February 11th 16 02:44 PM

Visitor
 
On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.


Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--


Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)




John H.[_5_] February 11th 16 02:55 PM

Visitor
 
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:44:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:28 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/10/16 9:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 9 Feb 2016 19:23:59 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

Sounds like Harry - who once said he carried because of "dog
packs."
I can't imagine being attacked by a coyote. They are naturally
fearful of me, with good reason. Dogs too.
Excepting Chihuahuas. Tiny dogs are stupid. I have one.
Instead of "booking" it into the garage, you should have just
growled at it as you approached it. Make a fist too.
Would have sent it away with its tail tucked.
Bears are another story.

===

Dog packs are dangerous but they're more interested in deer than
anything else. Dogs, wolves, coyotes, etc., are all dangerous in
packs and capable of taking down some fairly large animals. They are
all natural born stalkers and hunters if given the chance.

Yep.
OTOH, a single coyote - all 35 pounds of him - isn't much.
Especially if you're bundled in winter clothes.
Everyone has their own way of dealing with these kind of
incidents. My inclination would be to scare it off
immediately, since I don't want it attacking my back.
You have to let any canine know who's boss.
What's scarier is being attacked by a skunk. They have poor
eyesight and have come right at me at night time.
That's when I beat feet.


There's no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs attacking
humans or the pets of humans.


Gosh, I've not seen these stories. Perhaps you could direct us to some sites? Humans
attacked by feral dog packs along the Shenandoah River? Please?
--


Google is your friend. Perhaps you can find some examples of attacks by
black dogs on white peeples. :)



T'weren't me saying there's "...no shortage of news stories about packs of feral dogs
attacking humans or the pets of humans." It appears there is. Better make something
up to justify your 'carrying' when out there with the rest of your badass bunch
shooting at tree stumps.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


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