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Really good android news reader/poster?
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 20:08:24 -0500, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. === Whoa, there's another Harry Tale we haven't hear before. Did the Chicoms use the computers to develop nuclear weapons? That would be a nice embellishment. I am having a little trouble with the time line. 1965 in Bethesda? When was he at that Kansas college and the paper? How old is this guy? Old enough to be writing user manuals for minicomputer software, according to himself. Remember, this is the same guy who found bodies of dead soldiers in Vietnam, according to himself. -- Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns! |
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#23
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On 2/11/16 8:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. === Whoa, there's another Harry Tale we haven't hear before. Did the Chicoms use the computers to develop nuclear weapons? That would be a nice embellishment. I am having a little trouble with the time line. 1965 in Bethesda? When was he at that Kansas college and the paper? How old is this guy? Where did 1965 come from? This was a decade and a half, nearly, later. |
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#24
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 20:13:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 2/11/16 8:05 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 18:50:02 -0500 (EST), Keyser Soze wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/11/16 2:07 PM, wrote: He is an Apple guy AKA someone who does not what to know how their devices work or have any real control over them. I do find it ironic that in the famous ad, Apple was trying to make fun of "conformists" when the whole product line is based on conformity to the point that it has become a cult. Absurdity built on ignorance. My first two smartphones were android OS phones, and I ran both of them with advances from the ways that existed back then to bust out of the OS. When I was interested, I took formal programming language courses in Pascal and Modula-2. My current iPhone is almost always running the latest "jailbreak." I have no compelling interest in tinkering with my android tablet. I mostly use it as a device for reading books and for playing scrabble and chess. I don't have a smart phone or a tablet but I do know a lot of people who were disenchanted with the limitations of their Apple product and changed over. The kid who works for my wife was bragging about his IP-6 and she just said "got it" when he started talking about all of his new features. Just because I wasn't a "grunt" in the military doesn't mean I am ignorant of technology. These days, I learn what I have to learn to please myself. While you two boys were shoveling coal in the bowels of some obsolete ship somewhere, I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. Uh huh. What "mini computer" were you writing manuals for in 1965? BTW warships have not used coal since Teddy Roosevelt's Great White Fleet. I wasn't a snipe anyway. My job was above the main deck. So was Richard's. I really tried to learn as many jobs on the ship as I could and there are a lot of things going on there. (Welding, machine shop, small boats and the whole ordinance department). That is where the CG has it all over the Navy. They want you to know more than one job. Think of it is being a non-union shop. Oh, sorry. I was the manual writer for the software, the application program. Might have been a Burroughs or Control Data. I accessed for testing from a terminal in bethesda. Since there was a US/China trade embargo going on at the time I find it hard to believe either of them would be selling computers in China. I was expecting to hear about some obscure European company. You have the decade wrong. I don't know where you came up with 1965. I was still in kollidge pursuing my B.A. I am just using your slur and exploring it. I was on that ship "shoveling coal" in 65. By the time you were writing your "coolie see, coolie do" book I was pretty deep in the computer business, no matter when that was if it was before 96. There is a good chance we may have been in Bethesda at the same time. Who were you working for there? I only know of a few Control Data customers and I never even heard about a Burroughs customer there. IBM had a little competition in the peripheral business but we pretty much had the mainframe business locked up in Montgomery County |
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Really good android news reader/poster?
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 20:14:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 2/11/16 8:08 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. === Whoa, there's another Harry Tale we haven't hear before. Did the Chicoms use the computers to develop nuclear weapons? That would be a nice embellishment. I am having a little trouble with the time line. 1965 in Bethesda? When was he at that Kansas college and the paper? How old is this guy? Where did 1965 come from? This was a decade and a half, nearly, later. By 1980, we had pretty much run all of our competition out of town. Certainly Burroughs and Control Data. |
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#26
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 18:50:02 -0500 (EST), Keyser Soze wrote: Wrote in message: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/11/16 2:07 PM, wrote: He is an Apple guy AKA someone who does not what to know how their devices work or have any real control over them. I do find it ironic that in the famous ad, Apple was trying to make fun of "conformists" when the whole product line is based on conformity to the point that it has become a cult. Absurdity built on ignorance. My first two smartphones were android OS phones, and I ran both of them with advances from the ways that existed back then to bust out of the OS. When I was interested, I took formal programming language courses in Pascal and Modula-2. My current iPhone is almost always running the latest "jailbreak." I have no compelling interest in tinkering with my android tablet. I mostly use it as a device for reading books and for playing scrabble and chess. I don't have a smart phone or a tablet but I do know a lot of people who were disenchanted with the limitations of their Apple product and changed over. The kid who works for my wife was bragging about his IP-6 and she just said "got it" when he started talking about all of his new features. Just because I wasn't a "grunt" in the military doesn't mean I am ignorant of technology. These days, I learn what I have to learn to please myself. While you two boys were shoveling coal in the bowels of some obsolete ship somewhere, I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. Uh huh. What "mini computer" were you writing manuals for in 1965? BTW warships have not used coal since Teddy Roosevelt's Great White Fleet. I wasn't a snipe anyway. My job was above the main deck. So was Richard's. I really tried to learn as many jobs on the ship as I could and there are a lot of things going on there. (Welding, machine shop, small boats and the whole ordinance department). That is where the CG has it all over the Navy. They want you to know more than one job. Think of it is being a non-union shop. Oh, sorry. I was the manual writer for the software, the application program. Might have been a Burroughs or Control Data. I accessed for testing from a terminal in bethesda. Since there was a US/China trade embargo going on at the time I find it hard to believe either of them would be selling computers in China. I was expecting to hear about some obscure European company. If you were writing manuals in 1965, no wonder they were such ****ty manuals. |
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Really good android news reader/poster?
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 20:14:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/11/16 8:08 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. === Whoa, there's another Harry Tale we haven't hear before. Did the Chicoms use the computers to develop nuclear weapons? That would be a nice embellishment. I am having a little trouble with the time line. 1965 in Bethesda? When was he at that Kansas college and the paper? How old is this guy? Where did 1965 come from? This was a decade and a half, nearly, later. By 1980, we had pretty much run all of our competition out of town. Certainly Burroughs and Control Data. Between the name and great salesmen, IBM did very well. We lost Macy's California POS business to you guys. Our salesman said they would have to run the data cables in conduit over the fluorescent fixtures to the terminals. IBM guy told them did not need to. He knew the fire department required that, and would be done, wether needed or not. Smart guy. |
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On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:26:58 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 20:14:49 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/11/16 8:08 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. === Whoa, there's another Harry Tale we haven't hear before. Did the Chicoms use the computers to develop nuclear weapons? That would be a nice embellishment. I am having a little trouble with the time line. 1965 in Bethesda? When was he at that Kansas college and the paper? How old is this guy? Where did 1965 come from? This was a decade and a half, nearly, later. By 1980, we had pretty much run all of our competition out of town. Certainly Burroughs and Control Data. Between the name and great salesmen, IBM did very well. We lost Macy's California POS business to you guys. Our salesman said they would have to run the data cables in conduit over the fluorescent fixtures to the terminals. IBM guy told them did not need to. He knew the fire department required that, and would be done, wether needed or not. Smart guy. I never understood that. It is not required by the NEC if you use the right cable (CLP if it is a plenum) and there is certainly no interference problem. (in spite of the urban legends). We tested it six ways from Sunday and I had customers all over town who had cables sitting to troffers. I had a coil of wire sitting on the 277v light over my desk, connected to the token ring I was using. (IBM type 1 cable) We also tried it with ethernet, store loop, broadband and 3270. That is really easy to do if you have the IBM structured wiring network because you just need to swap baluns on each end and plug in the right machines. We blew away the enterprise competition simply with price and the response time we used to provide. IBM dropped the "off shift" price hike and if you had a lease on an MA, it was all included in your basic contract. That blew away the MAIs and other maintenance competitors. We were very close to their prime shift price, giving them 24/7 service. When I moved down here I killed off the only 3d party maintainer we had here in about a month. We also came out with very competitive pricing on the hardware. They really worked on cost reduction in the design and it actually improved reliability. The last water cooled (3090) processor complex I had, ran 5 years without a single call. The log read "Install" ... "Discontinue" with a few PM entries, mostly replacing filters. That was when I knew I needed to look for a different job and I got into installation planning, connectivity, availability, contract services and service delivery. The service delivery deal was the most interesting, basically database analysis. That was pretty much all self taught. IBM still spent a lot of money on schools for me the last 5 years I was there and I was doing my inspector training on the side. In the end the decision was whether I wanted to work in Ft Lauderdale/Miami and commute or retire. I retired. |
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#29
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On 2/11/2016 8:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. === Whoa, there's another Harry Tale we haven't hear before. Did the Chicoms use the computers to develop nuclear weapons? That would be a nice embellishment. I am having a little trouble with the time line. 1965 in Bethesda? When was he at that Kansas college and the paper? How old is this guy? Greg, *you* are the one who established 1965 as the date, not Harry. It's doubtful anything like this was going on in 1965. |
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On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 02:00:09 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 2/11/2016 8:08 PM, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 19:35:56 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:18:34 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China to aid in weather forecasting for agricultural programs. Well, at least that was their ostensible purpose. === Whoa, there's another Harry Tale we haven't hear before. Did the Chicoms use the computers to develop nuclear weapons? That would be a nice embellishment. I am having a little trouble with the time line. 1965 in Bethesda? When was he at that Kansas college and the paper? How old is this guy? Greg, *you* are the one who established 1965 as the date, not Harry. It's doubtful anything like this was going on in 1965. Oh contraire Harry said "While you two boys were shoveling coal in the bowels of some obsolete ship somewhere, I was writing the user manuals for minicomputers being sold to the Peoples Republic of China" I was on the ship in 1965. In 1980 I was a region support rep for IBM. When he says this ****, I actually read what he says and respond directly to it ... even when it is a brain fart. |
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