On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 10:49:43 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 10:17:49 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 09:32:43 -0400, Keyser Söze
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I have no interest in an "old" new 10/22 or a "new" new 10/22 rifle. I
already have a .22 rifle that shoots better.

I might take that bet, using my 60+ year old Remington pump.
I paid $20 for it.


What bet?

That you CZ wonder gun ain't all that.


Wonder gun? Where did you get that? It is a stock CZ 455 and it is more
accurate than a stock 10/22. This is it:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DP3kwJADWd0

I never made it through the movie trailer.

On 6/16/16 11:52 AM, Tim wrote:


2) if you're meaning the CZ is a more accurate rifle than the 10/22 then you should reconsider.


Why? The stock CZs under discussion are more accurate than the 10/22s.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:06:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 11:52 AM, Tim wrote:


2) if you're meaning the CZ is a more accurate rifle than the 10/22 then you should reconsider.


Why? The stock CZs under discussion are more accurate than the 10/22s.

The issue is whether the shooter is more accurate than the gun.

On 6/16/16 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:06:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 11:52 AM, Tim wrote:


2) if you're meaning the CZ is a more accurate rifle than the 10/22 then you should reconsider.


Why? The stock CZs under discussion are more accurate than the 10/22s.

The issue is whether the shooter is more accurate than the gun.


That's Tim's issue. Some firearms are inherently more accurate than
others. You should have watched the little video I referenced.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:21:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:06:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 11:52 AM, Tim wrote:


2) if you're meaning the CZ is a more accurate rifle than the 10/22 then you should reconsider.


Why? The stock CZs under discussion are more accurate than the 10/22s.

The issue is whether the shooter is more accurate than the gun.


That's Tim's issue. Some firearms are inherently more accurate than
others. You should have watched the little video I referenced.

About a minute into the ad, I didn't care anymore.
The caption says it shoots inside a 1/2 MOA but most shooters can't
accomplish 10 times that without a rest and a scope.

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:21:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:06:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 11:52 AM, Tim wrote:


2) if you're meaning the CZ is a more accurate rifle than the 10/22
then you should reconsider.


Why? The stock CZs under discussion are more accurate than the 10/22s.

The issue is whether the shooter is more accurate than the gun.


That's Tim's issue. Some firearms are inherently more accurate than
others. You should have watched the little video I referenced.using
ope
About a minute into the ad, I didn't care anymore.
opeThe caption says it shoots inside a 1/2 MOA but most shooters can't
accomplish 10 times that without a rest and a scope.


The guy was using a rest and a scope. I doubt a 10/22 could match that at
100 yards no matter what.

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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:46:37 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:21:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:06:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 11:52 AM, Tim wrote:


2) if you're meaning the CZ is a more accurate rifle than the 10/22
then you should reconsider.


Why? The stock CZs under discussion are more accurate than the 10/22s.

The issue is whether the shooter is more accurate than the gun.


That's Tim's issue. Some firearms are inherently more accurate than
others. You should have watched the little video I referenced.using
ope
About a minute into the ad, I didn't care anymore.
opeThe caption says it shoots inside a 1/2 MOA but most shooters can't
accomplish 10 times that without a rest and a scope.


The guy was using a rest and a scope. I doubt a 10/22 could match that at
100 yards no matter what.

So what?
Most people do not sit at a bench with a scoped rifle trying to shoot
tight groups all day, particularly with a 22 rf.

On 6/16/16 4:41 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:46:37 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:21:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:06:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 6/16/16 11:52 AM, Tim wrote:


2) if you're meaning the CZ is a more accurate rifle than the 10/22
then you should reconsider.


Why? The stock CZs under discussion are more accurate than the 10/22s.

The issue is whether the shooter is more accurate than the gun.


That's Tim's issue. Some firearms are inherently more accurate than
others. You should have watched the little video I referenced.using
ope
About a minute into the ad, I didn't care anymore.
opeThe caption says it shoots inside a 1/2 MOA but most shooters can't
accomplish 10 times that without a rest and a scope.


The guy was using a rest and a scope. I doubt a 10/22 could match that at
100 yards no matter what.

So what?
Most people do not sit at a bench with a scoped rifle trying to shoot
tight groups all day, particularly with a 22 rf.




Accuracy was the point here. If you're not concerned with accuracy, get
yourself a zip gun, eh?

When I go to the 100 yard range, just about everyone there is trying to
shoot tight groups with scoped rifles and pistols, and handguns with red
dots. That you can get a very accurate rimfire rifle for a few hundred
bucks that will do the job far better than the 10/22, which sells for
pretty close to the same price, is interesting.

Accuracy is the point?

Ok. 10/22 bi-pod mount and big scope. Prone, Windy. Whacking an 8 in steel plate @ 250 yards. Not every hit but doing a great job of it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vonfRKQ0TfQ

On 6/16/16 5:51 PM, Tim wrote:
Accuracy is the point?

Ok. 10/22 bi-pod mount and big scope. Prone, Windy. Whacking an 8 in steel plate @ 250 yards. Not every hit but doing a great job of it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vonfRKQ0TfQ



Uh, that's not a stock 10/22. Shooter changed the stock, the barrel, and
probably the receiver. The CZ was stock. So, your shooter turned a $200
rifle into what, a $700 rifle? Not impressed.