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The NRA is full of ****.

The Dallas shooter was a good guy with a gun until he wasn’t. The guns
and ammo were legally purchased. There were at least 20 “open carry”
guys present when the shooting started, and they all ran from the scene.
The victims were heavily armed and highly trained.

So much for the concept that there’s a benefit to “carrying” in an open
venue.

Oh, and did I miss the NRA’s comment on the death of the guy in
Minnesota who apparently was legally carrying and shot to death by the
cops? Or does the NRA only care about white folks who carry?
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Keyser Söze wrote:
The NRA is full of ****.

The Dallas shooter was a good guy with a gun until he wasn’t. The guns
and ammo were legally purchased. There were at least 20 “open carry”
guys present when the shooting started, and they all ran from the scene.
The victims were heavily armed and highly trained.

So much for the concept that there’s a benefit to “carrying” in an open
venue.

Oh, and did I miss the NRA’s comment on the death of the guy in
Minnesota who apparently was legally carrying and shot to death by the
cops? Or does the NRA only care about white folks who carry?


Another dumb post by a racist and loser.

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On 7/10/16 11:32 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
The NRA is full of ****.

The Dallas shooter was a good guy with a gun until he wasn’t. The guns
and ammo were legally purchased. There were at least 20 “open carry”
guys present when the shooting started, and they all ran from the scene.
The victims were heavily armed and highly trained.

So much for the concept that there’s a benefit to “carrying” in an open
venue.

Oh, and did I miss the NRA’s comment on the death of the guy in
Minnesota who apparently was legally carrying and shot to death by the
cops? Or does the NRA only care about white folks who carry?


Another dumb post by a racist and loser.



Bilious, it is fashionable these days for white guys to accuse others of
"racism" when the latter point out the racism or possible racism of
whites or white-dominated groups. But that doesn't make the charge true.
It is simply a way for white guys to try to "transfer" their racism onto
those who accuse them of it.

The NRA and other nutcase groups frequently state that "if only more
people carried firearms...blah blah blah." Well, in Dallas there were
plenty of "civilians" open carrying firearms, and they all ran when the
shooting started.

And where is the comment from the NRA on the guy who apparently was
legally carrying and was shot by a cop? If the 2nd Amendment is suppose
to allow you to arm yourself so you can protect yourself from an
"overreaching" government, well, it doesn't seem to work, does it?
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 11:19:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
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There were at least 20 “open carry”
guys present when the shooting started, and they all ran from the scene.


Are you suggesting that they should have just started firing blindly
at anything that they thought looked threatening?
Perhaps we should be demanding that your CCW be revoked if you have
such a poor understanding about the legal use of force.
At least one of those guys actually turned his gun over to the first
cop he saw because he did not want to be shot by the cops.
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:40:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 7/10/16 1:05 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 11:19:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

There were at least 20 “open carry”
guys present when the shooting started, and they all ran from the scene.


Are you suggesting that they should have just started firing blindly
at anything that they thought looked threatening?
Perhaps we should be demanding that your CCW be revoked if you have
such a poor understanding about the legal use of force.
At least one of those guys actually turned his gun over to the first
cop he saw because he did not want to be shot by the cops.


Just about everytime there is a mass shooting at a school, a church, a
movie theater, a shopping center, a parking lot or any other place where
folks gather, the NRA or some gun nut says, "If only there was someone
there carrying a firearm, he/she could have shot the shooter and saved X
number of people."

That's nonsense. Maybe an armed citizen might "save the day" in a tiny
number of cases, but it doesn't seem very likely. The open carry guys in
Dallas ran for their lives. Apparently down there, open carry works well
to intimidate shoppers at Target or fast food venues, but not when there
is a bad guy shooting, eh?


There are cases of CCW people shooting the bad guy but they are
generally not hyped up like the cases where they don't. In Dallas, the
"open carry" people had more fear of being shot by the cops than the
shooter. The guy I talked about was arrested and held for several
hours, He still had not got his gun back the last time CNN had him on.
That is plenty of reason to get away.
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On 7/10/16 1:47 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 13:40:46 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 7/10/16 1:05 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 11:19:04 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

There were at least 20 “open carry”
guys present when the shooting started, and they all ran from the scene.

Are you suggesting that they should have just started firing blindly
at anything that they thought looked threatening?
Perhaps we should be demanding that your CCW be revoked if you have
such a poor understanding about the legal use of force.
At least one of those guys actually turned his gun over to the first
cop he saw because he did not want to be shot by the cops.


Just about everytime there is a mass shooting at a school, a church, a
movie theater, a shopping center, a parking lot or any other place where
folks gather, the NRA or some gun nut says, "If only there was someone
there carrying a firearm, he/she could have shot the shooter and saved X
number of people."

That's nonsense. Maybe an armed citizen might "save the day" in a tiny
number of cases, but it doesn't seem very likely. The open carry guys in
Dallas ran for their lives. Apparently down there, open carry works well
to intimidate shoppers at Target or fast food venues, but not when there
is a bad guy shooting, eh?


There are cases of CCW people shooting the bad guy but they are
generally not hyped up like the cases where they don't. In Dallas, the
"open carry" people had more fear of being shot by the cops than the
shooter. The guy I talked about was arrested and held for several
hours, He still had not got his gun back the last time CNN had him on.
That is plenty of reason to get away.


Well, then, perhaps the lesson is that "open carry" is great for
intimidating shoppers but not so much for taking care of bad guys,
especially when there are cops present.
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Well, then, perhaps the lesson is that "open carry" is great for
intimidating shoppers but not so much for taking care of bad guys,
especially when there are cops present.


I do not disagree. If this guy is shooting at heavily armed cops, I
doubt a few untrained yahoos are going to scare him much. Of course if
one of them was a trained shootist like you with a rifle that shoots
well within a MOA, he might guess wrong. ;-)
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2016 14:01:43 -0400, Keyser Söze
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Well, then, perhaps the lesson is that "open carry" is great for
intimidating shoppers but not so much for taking care of bad guys,
especially when there are cops present.


I do not disagree. If this guy is shooting at heavily armed cops, I
doubt a few untrained yahoos are going to scare him much. Of course if
one of them was a trained shootist like you with a rifle that shoots
well within a MOA, he might guess wrong. ;-)


Right, except I am not dumb enough to open carry downtown anywhere. Besides
the only MOA rifle I have is a mere .22. 😀

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Califbill Wrote in message:
Keyser Sze wrote:
The NRA is full of ****.

The Dallas shooter was a good guy with a gun until he wasn?t. The guns
and ammo were legally purchased. There were at least 20 ?open carry?
guys present when the shooting started, and they all ran from the scene.
The victims were heavily armed and highly trained.

So much for the concept that there?s a benefit to ?carrying? in an open
venue.

Oh, and did I miss the NRA?s comment on the death of the guy in
Minnesota who apparently was legally carrying and shot to death by the
cops? Or does the NRA only care about white folks who carry?


Another dumb post by a racist and loser.



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assuming he's a purebred.
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